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Anonymous wrote:As MB I agree with pay increasing with inflation and merit. If no merit increase, then just based on inflation.

But you contradict yourself on some points.

"Don't give a few pennies?" Inflation was 0.1% (1 tenth of a percentage) in 2008. This equates to a few pennies. In that case, we should not give a raise if the nanny at all, right? Because it is worthless? So lots of nannies should be getting no raise because it was just a bad year and that should be fair. No complaints.

Following your reasoning, if we have a year of deflation, then it is OK to dock nanny's pay?

If you think nanny pay should be based on "common decency," go live in North Korea where everyone gets the basics based on "common decency."

US is a competitive capitalist society. The smartest and the hardest workers get paid more. Welcome to reality.

Here's my reality. And yours. I am smart and I work hard. (I have years of history with a stack of outstanding reference letters to prove it.) So according to you and your "competitive capitalist society" ideal, I shall hand you my resignation note upon your arrival this evening, as your neighbor around the corner has been begging to hire me. This morning at the park I finally accepted her generous offer, thanks to your reality check. More money for less responsibility. She has only one child plus she wants to add an extra $5/hr to "whatever" I'm currently getting paid. I told her your rate and she said that's nothing for a nanny like me. Plus, she's been providing the full-time care of her own child until, she said she found the "right" person. To me that means her child doesn't have the baggage you have with the revolving nanny door. The concept of stability means a lot to her, as it does to me.

Perhaps you aren't so smart at all. Time will tell. Perhaps you should work harder and get a little smarter. GL to you.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Anonymous wrote:As MB I agree with pay increasing with inflation and merit. If no merit increase, then just based on inflation.

But you contradict yourself on some points.

"Don't give a few pennies?" Inflation was 0.1% (1 tenth of a percentage) in 2008. This equates to a few pennies. In that case, we should not give a raise if the nanny at all, right? Because it is worthless? So lots of nannies should be getting no raise because it was just a bad year and that should be fair. No complaints.

Following your reasoning, if we have a year of deflation, then it is OK to dock nanny's pay?

If you think nanny pay should be based on "common decency," go live in North Korea where everyone gets the basics based on "common decency."

US is a competitive capitalist society. The smartest and the hardest workers get paid more. Welcome to reality.

Yep.

We would get along.

I pay and treat our nanny very well and she has been with us for years.

She is, however, an employee - not a family member, indentured servant, or second parent. She is free to leave if she is unhappy or can get a better offer. My job is to make the job (inclusive of benefits, compensation and working environment) attractive enough to retain the level of individual I want to hire.

As you said - competitive capitalism. No more, no less. Works for me as an employer AND as an employee.

Anonymous wrote:As MB I agree with pay increasing with inflation and merit. If no merit increase, then just based on inflation.

But you contradict yourself on some points.

"Don't give a few pennies?" Inflation was 0.1% (1 tenth of a percentage) in 2008. This equates to a few pennies. In that case, we should not give a raise if the nanny at all, right? Because it is worthless? So lots of nannies should be getting no raise because it was just a bad year and that should be fair. No complaints.

Following your reasoning, if we have a year of deflation, then it is OK to dock nanny's pay?

If you think nanny pay should be based on "common decency," go live in North Korea where everyone gets the basics based on "common decency."

US is a competitive capitalist society. The smartest and the hardest workers get paid more. Welcome to reality.

Here's my reality. And yours. I am smart and I work hard. (I have years of history with a stack of outstanding reference letters to prove it.) So according to you and your "competitive capitalist society" ideal, I shall hand you my resignation note upon your arrival this evening, as your neighbor around the corner has been begging to hire me. This morning at the park I finally accepted her generous offer, thanks to your reality check. More money for less responsibility. She has only one child plus she wants to add an extra $5/hr to "whatever" I'm currently getting paid. I told her your rate and she said that's nothing for a nanny like me. Plus, she's been providing the full-time care of her own child until, she said she found the "right" person. To me that means her child doesn't have the baggage you have with the revolving nanny door. The concept of stability means a lot to her, as it does to me.

Perhaps you aren't so smart at all. Time will tell. Perhaps you should work harder and get a little smarter. GL to you.

As MB I agree with pay increasing with inflation and merit. If no merit increase, then just based on inflation.

But you contradict yourself on some points.

"Don't give a few pennies?" Inflation was 0.1% (1 tenth of a percentage) in 2008. This equates to a few pennies. In that case, we should not give a raise if the nanny at all, right? Because it is worthless? So lots of nannies should be getting no raise because it was just a bad year and that should be fair. No complaints.

Following your reasoning, if we have a year of deflation, then it is OK to dock nanny's pay?

If you think nanny pay should be based on "common decency," go live in North Korea where everyone gets the basics based on "common decency."

US is a competitive capitalist society. The smartest and the hardest workers get paid more. Welcome to reality.

As a nanny, I agree.

Any family who has a good nanny has the luxury of going out the door each morning to work without having to worry about their child's safety, well-being and happiness.

The nanny steps in and fully takes over until the parent returns home.

What a lovely gift it is to compensate your nanny appropriately. I can think of no wiser investment than the person who provides the most important service to you ever, the peace of mind you have where you can go to work and focus on just work, not having any worry at all.

Being your child's second parent is priceless....

Anonymous wrote:Don't preach to me.

You have no idea how I treat our nanny but you assume the worst. You assume I don't give raises or bonuses. You assume I look only for the cheapest care. You assume I have no idea what having a nanny means in terms of being able to manage my life.

Save your moralizing for a situation where you know the specifics. Here you're just ranting and being needlessly offensive.

Calm down, Mama. Take a breath.

You really are ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:Don't preach to me.

You have no idea how I treat our nanny but you assume the worst. You assume I don't give raises or bonuses. You assume I look only for the cheapest care. You assume I have no idea what having a nanny means in terms of being able to manage my life.

Save your moralizing for a situation where you know the specifics. Here you're just ranting and being needlessly offensive.

Touched a nerve. Good.

Don't preach to me.

You have no idea how I treat our nanny but you assume the worst. You assume I don't give raises or bonuses. You assume I look only for the cheapest care. You assume I have no idea what having a nanny means in terms of being able to manage my life.

Save your moralizing for a situation where you know the specifics. Here you're just ranting and being needlessly offensive.

Anonymous wrote:Should the nanny get a raise at her Nannyversary or at the end of the Calander year?

Upon completion of her first year. It's good to let her know in advance what you have in mind, so she doesn't need to worry about it and she can plan accordingly.

Anonymous wrote:Should the nanny get a raise at her Nannyversary or at the end of the Calander year?

On the anniversary of her hire. Please - no ridiculous made-up words.

Should the nanny get a raise at her Nannyversary or at the end of the Calander year?

Of course good nannies deserve pay raises annually. Common sense and decency.

Every year we give our wonderful nanny a COL increase as well as a merit increase. It is the right thing to do. We have also had the same amazing and dedicated nanny for over five years. DH and I sacrifice to afford quality care and emotional stability for our kids.

"You Deserve a Raise Today." So states the editorial board in today's New York Times with regard to the working class. If you pass the nanny's one year mark without a raise, her income is essentially going down due to inflation, while virtually all of her living expenses continue to go up.

If you think you can't afford to compensate your nanny fairly, please think again. While you contemplate one investment opportunity over another to enhance your portfolio, she may be wondering where she can afford to live, and still provide the FT care of your child. Without that stability, you'll need to look for a cheaper nanny and hope it all goes well for your child, not to mention all your time investment to find a new nanny.

Please do not offer her a few pennies, and say you wish it could be more, but you didn't get a raise this year. She's living on a very tight margin, while you aren't, even if you try to be frugal.

You ethically owe the nanny fair compensation in accordance with the value she provides to you and your spouse. Without good child care, your job productivity would decline, as you scramble and worry about the state of your child's care. Everyone knows that a trustworthy nanny is hard to come by, and maybe even worth her weight in gold.