Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 19:34     Subject: In a share but one family leaves
I'm the poster who has posted the joint employment laws, and, yes, this means in absence of another agreement the nanny is entitled to her full wage. Of course, you can always negotiate a one child wage, but if you say nothing the default is full wage, not half wage.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 15:44     Subject: In a share but one family leaves
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was a nanny in this situation and although I didn't ask for it, the family that left the share paid 2 weeks, the family that stayed paid 1, and the new family paid 1 (to hold their spot as we had other families that wanted to join sooner). all in all, the only thing that changed about my pay was which family was paying which portion - the overall amount did not change.

had this not been offered to me, I would expect compensation of some sort - perhaps like the PP said about the share rate vs single rate - because although I do not live paycheck to paycheck, it IS my income, it decreased through no fault of my own, and the share rate per family is lower than I would charge per a single family (ie if I make $10/hr/family in a share I wouldn't be a nanny for one child for $10/hr)


You are not entitled to money just because you didn't do anything thought your own fault. People get lose their jobs all the time through no fault of their own, that's life. It was your job to keep a share going, why you think you are entitled to more of Family A's money just because you have less work is beyond me.


wow. the family moved away due to a death in the family, so I didn't have trouble "keeping them." secondly, if it really was "my job" to keep the share going then I could have just left the other family in a lurch and gone on to a single family for more money. you are ridiculous
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 15:37     Subject: Re:In a share but one family leaves
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would suspect you need to pay her the full amount as she will be giving double-time/attention to your family and child.

Was there no severance written into the share contract for the family that leaves the share?

Regardless, talk to your nanny. See what she is expecting. Her rent/mortgage, bills and personal expenses remain the same regardless. I know few nannies who could afford to take home half of their usual salary for a month.


Oh, if only I got paid according to my expenses!!
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 14:51     Subject: In a share but one family leaves
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I was a nanny in this situation and although I didn't ask for it, the family that left the share paid 2 weeks, the family that stayed paid 1, and the new family paid 1 (to hold their spot as we had other families that wanted to join sooner). all in all, the only thing that changed about my pay was which family was paying which portion - the overall amount did not change.

had this not been offered to me, I would expect compensation of some sort - perhaps like the PP said about the share rate vs single rate - because although I do not live paycheck to paycheck, it IS my income, it decreased through no fault of my own, and the share rate per family is lower than I would charge per a single family (ie if I make $10/hr/family in a share I wouldn't be a nanny for one child for $10/hr)


You are not entitled to money just because you didn't do anything thought your own fault. People get lose their jobs all the time through no fault of their own, that's life. It was your job to keep a share going why you think you are entitled to more of Family A's money just because you have less work is beyond me.


How you draw this conclusion is beyond me. You organized a share and signed a contract for a particular wage, but somehow it's now my responsibility and none of yours? If you said this shit to me my response would be that it was your job to keep your nanny happy enough to still work for you, but since you're an idiot have fun finding a new one.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 14:47     Subject: In a share but one family leaves
So something that came up when the minimum wage was increased- share families have to only meet the minimum wage requirement between the two of them and not individually because the law views the nanny as having one job with two employers. To me this supports the idea that both families are responsible for the nanny's full wages, even if the situation changes. You are joint employers.

If I were your nanny I would be willing to negotiate a fair single child rate for the month, but if you tried to pay half my usual rate, I'd probably quitter push the legal issue of it. Mostly because it tells me you don't have much concern for me, and because you thought you could get away with it.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 13:31     Subject: In a share but one family leaves
Anonymous wrote:We are currently in a nanny share. The other child is starting school is September and it looks like there will be a gap of approx. a month before the new family starts. What is customarily done? Do we have to pay the nanny her entire amount? She's not going to quit bc she knows the new family is starting.

How much was each family paying the nanny?
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 08:54     Subject: Re:In a share but one family leaves
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In my experience most nannies had a "share rate" and a "single family" rate. For example, $15/hour for one family and $20 an hour ($10/family) when it is the share. So when there is a gap between share families you would probably be paying more, but not the full amount she would earn when there are two families.


Just because nanny has a single family rate doesn't mean she can charge me more suddenly because she wasn't able to keep a second client. She can suck the difference.


Go away, Fat Troll. You have never had a nanny nor been a nanny.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 08:50     Subject: In a share but one family leaves
Anonymous wrote:I was a nanny in this situation and although I didn't ask for it, the family that left the share paid 2 weeks, the family that stayed paid 1, and the new family paid 1 (to hold their spot as we had other families that wanted to join sooner). all in all, the only thing that changed about my pay was which family was paying which portion - the overall amount did not change.

had this not been offered to me, I would expect compensation of some sort - perhaps like the PP said about the share rate vs single rate - because although I do not live paycheck to paycheck, it IS my income, it decreased through no fault of my own, and the share rate per family is lower than I would charge per a single family (ie if I make $10/hr/family in a share I wouldn't be a nanny for one child for $10/hr)


You are not entitled to money just because you didn't do anything thought your own fault. People get lose their jobs all the time through no fault of their own, that's life. It was your job to keep a share going, why you think you are entitled to more of Family A's money just because you have less work is beyond me.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 08:48     Subject: Re:In a share but one family leaves
Anonymous wrote:In my experience most nannies had a "share rate" and a "single family" rate. For example, $15/hour for one family and $20 an hour ($10/family) when it is the share. So when there is a gap between share families you would probably be paying more, but not the full amount she would earn when there are two families.


Just because nanny has a single family rate doesn't mean she can charge me more suddenly because she wasn't able to keep a second client. She can suck the difference.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 08:39     Subject: In a share but one family leaves
I was a nanny in this situation and although I didn't ask for it, the family that left the share paid 2 weeks, the family that stayed paid 1, and the new family paid 1 (to hold their spot as we had other families that wanted to join sooner). all in all, the only thing that changed about my pay was which family was paying which portion - the overall amount did not change.

had this not been offered to me, I would expect compensation of some sort - perhaps like the PP said about the share rate vs single rate - because although I do not live paycheck to paycheck, it IS my income, it decreased through no fault of my own, and the share rate per family is lower than I would charge per a single family (ie if I make $10/hr/family in a share I wouldn't be a nanny for one child for $10/hr)
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 08:32     Subject: Re:In a share but one family leaves
Anonymous wrote:In my experience most nannies had a "share rate" and a "single family" rate. For example, $15/hour for one family and $20 an hour ($10/family) when it is the share. So when there is a gap between share families you would probably be paying more, but not the full amount she would earn when there are two families.


+1
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 08:24     Subject: Re:In a share but one family leaves
In my experience most nannies had a "share rate" and a "single family" rate. For example, $15/hour for one family and $20 an hour ($10/family) when it is the share. So when there is a gap between share families you would probably be paying more, but not the full amount she would earn when there are two families.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 08:11     Subject: Re:In a share but one family leaves
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would suspect you need to pay her the full amount as she will be giving double-time/attention to your family and child.

Was there no severance written into the share contract for the family that leaves the share?

Regardless, talk to your nanny. See what she is expecting. Her rent/mortgage, bills and personal expenses remain the same regardless. I know few nannies who could afford to take home half of their usual salary for a month.


It's not smart to live paycheck to paycheck as a nanny anyways and it's twice as dumb to do so as a share nanny. If I was MB in this situation I would not feel the slightest obligation to pay her extra. Nanny is responsible for managing her finances with two families, it's the exact same situation as hiring as M/W/F nanny who works for a different family T/Th, if she came to me and said her T/Th family just dropped her I obviously wouldn't pay her for T/Th while she searches. And lastly, your nanny knows she has a new family starting soon, so you should not pay her.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 07:46     Subject: Re:In a share but one family leaves
Yes, I would suspect you need to pay her the full amount as she will be giving double-time/attention to your family and child.

Was there no severance written into the share contract for the family that leaves the share?

Regardless, talk to your nanny. See what she is expecting. Her rent/mortgage, bills and personal expenses remain the same regardless. I know few nannies who could afford to take home half of their usual salary for a month.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 07:43     Subject: In a share but one family leaves
We are currently in a nanny share. The other child is starting school is September and it looks like there will be a gap of approx. a month before the new family starts. What is customarily done? Do we have to pay the nanny her entire amount? She's not going to quit bc she knows the new family is starting.