Anonymous
Post 01/26/2015 13:19     Subject: Re:Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm in a share with 3 children. When family A had their second child I recieved a $4 raise. My situation is slightly different as none of the children are in school, but I can honestly say that raise wasn't enough. Managing three children 3 and under is physically and mentally draining. What makes it more difficult is the fact that I have two families to please and the family with one child is always disappointed that our plans get altered due the baby's nap schedule. I already told them this will be my final year because the position is becoming too stressful and exhausting. Your position sounds sound less stressful since the children will be in school.
I would at minimum give $3 raise, $2 for the added the child that the other family pays and $1 for her yearly raise that you split. Given that she is barely at an average rate for a nanny share, the added yearly raise should keep her happy longer. But personally if I were her, I'd just look for a two child share that pays $20.

The OP feels she isn't underpaying at under $18.


NP here. That's fine for OP to feel that way, but why would any nanny, including hers, take on all this work for the same rate they could easily get in a normal 2 kid share? Market rates do exist, and just as paying above market isn't advised, paying below market is inadvisable if you value stable and quality care for your kids. If I were OPs nanny, I'd be interviewing for an easier position at the same rate. It won't take long for her to realize that she's getting a raw deal.


But OP's nanny isn't taking on all this extra work. Her workload is actually decreasing. Two of the three children will be in preschool, one for the majority of the day. She will, with a $2/hr raise, be making almost $20/hr for a share that has one child for half a day, two children for half a day and a third for a few hours. It's not a raw deal.

But the exhausted PP with the $4/hr raise brings up a good point. Some nannies are not cut out for shares because they can't handle three small children at once. She, and nannies like her, probably should only seek families with one child. More money isn't going to make her better at her job or less exhausted. She needs a new job.


Pp,
I've actually worked with multiples and three young children my entire 10 year career but working for one family with three children is completely different than working for two sets of employers. Expectations are different and no one is ever completely satisfied. You have clearly never actually worked in share with three children under 3.
Her nanny will still have 3 children during all school vacations, sick days and summers. There is also no mention that she has recieved a raise since she started.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2015 11:53     Subject: Re:Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm in a share with 3 children. When family A had their second child I recieved a $4 raise. My situation is slightly different as none of the children are in school, but I can honestly say that raise wasn't enough. Managing three children 3 and under is physically and mentally draining. What makes it more difficult is the fact that I have two families to please and the family with one child is always disappointed that our plans get altered due the baby's nap schedule. I already told them this will be my final year because the position is becoming too stressful and exhausting. Your position sounds sound less stressful since the children will be in school.
I would at minimum give $3 raise, $2 for the added the child that the other family pays and $1 for her yearly raise that you split. Given that she is barely at an average rate for a nanny share, the added yearly raise should keep her happy longer. But personally if I were her, I'd just look for a two child share that pays $20.

The OP feels she isn't underpaying at under $18.


NP here. That's fine for OP to feel that way, but why would any nanny, including hers, take on all this work for the same rate they could easily get in a normal 2 kid share? Market rates do exist, and just as paying above market isn't advised, paying below market is inadvisable if you value stable and quality care for your kids. If I were OPs nanny, I'd be interviewing for an easier position at the same rate. It won't take long for her to realize that she's getting a raw deal.


But OP's nanny isn't taking on all this extra work. Her workload is actually decreasing. Two of the three children will be in preschool, one for the majority of the day. She will, with a $2/hr raise, be making almost $20/hr for a share that has one child for half a day, two children for half a day and a third for a few hours. It's not a raw deal.

But the exhausted PP with the $4/hr raise brings up a good point. Some nannies are not cut out for shares because they can't handle three small children at once. She, and nannies like her, probably should only seek families with one child. More money isn't going to make her better at her job or less exhausted. She needs a new job.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2015 11:10     Subject: Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm in a share with 3 children. When family A had their second child I recieved a $4 raise. My situation is slightly different as none of the children are in school, but I can honestly say that raise wasn't enough. Managing three children 3 and under is physically and mentally draining. What makes it more difficult is the fact that I have two families to please and the family with one child is always disappointed that our plans get altered due the baby's nap schedule. I already told them this will be my final year because the position is becoming too stressful and exhausting. Your position sounds sound less stressful since the children will be in school.
I would at minimum give $3 raise, $2 for the added the child that the other family pays and $1 for her yearly raise that you split. Given that she is barely at an average rate for a nanny share, the added yearly raise should keep her happy longer. But personally if I were her, I'd just look for a two child share that pays $20.

The OP feels she isn't underpaying at under $18.


NP here. That's fine for OP to feel that way, but why would any nanny, including hers, take on all this work for the same rate they could easily get in a normal 2 kid share? Market rates do exist, and just as paying above market isn't advised, paying below market is inadvisable if you value stable and quality care for your kids. If I were OPs nanny, I'd be interviewing for an easier position at the same rate. It won't take long for her to realize that she's getting a raw deal.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2015 10:11     Subject: Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
Anonymous wrote:I'm in a share with 3 children. When family A had their second child I recieved a $4 raise. My situation is slightly different as none of the children are in school, but I can honestly say that raise wasn't enough. Managing three children 3 and under is physically and mentally draining. What makes it more difficult is the fact that I have two families to please and the family with one child is always disappointed that our plans get altered due the baby's nap schedule. I already told them this will be my final year because the position is becoming too stressful and exhausting. Your position sounds sound less stressful since the children will be in school.
I would at minimum give $3 raise, $2 for the added the child that the other family pays and $1 for her yearly raise that you split. Given that she is barely at an average rate for a nanny share, the added yearly raise should keep her happy longer. But personally if I were her, I'd just look for a two child share that pays $20.

The OP feels she isn't underpaying at under $18.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2015 08:49     Subject: Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
I'm in a share with 3 children. When family A had their second child I recieved a $4 raise. My situation is slightly different as none of the children are in school, but I can honestly say that raise wasn't enough. Managing three children 3 and under is physically and mentally draining. What makes it more difficult is the fact that I have two families to please and the family with one child is always disappointed that our plans get altered due the baby's nap schedule. I already told them this will be my final year because the position is becoming too stressful and exhausting. Your position sounds sound less stressful since the children will be in school.
I would at minimum give $3 raise, $2 for the added the child that the other family pays and $1 for her yearly raise that you split. Given that she is barely at an average rate for a nanny share, the added yearly raise should keep her happy longer. But personally if I were her, I'd just look for a two child share that pays $20.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2015 14:39     Subject: Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
Anonymous wrote:I would raise the rate by $2/hr with the other family paying the increase. This is an average new child raise and since her work load will decrease with two children in preschool for a significant part of her day, she will be making an above average rate for Arlington.





Also helpful, thank you.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2015 14:01     Subject: Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
I would raise the rate by $2/hr with the other family paying the increase. This is an average new child raise and since her work load will decrease with two children in preschool for a significant part of her day, she will be making an above average rate for Arlington.



Anonymous
Post 01/25/2015 08:50     Subject: Re:Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She hasn't said directly if she does or not but has hinted that it wouldn't be an issue for her. She used to watch 4 kids in a 2 family share so I think she would feel fairly comfortable watching 3, especially if one was only home from 2:45pm - 5:30pm on school days. However before we talked to her I wanted to present her with all the facts including salary so she would know what she was committing to from the get go.

I would suggest giving her your older child's expected holiday/vacation schedule, while reminding her of the unexpected sick days. After a conversation with her, follow-up with a written proposal.


This is good advice, thanks.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2015 08:26     Subject: Re:Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
Anonymous wrote:She hasn't said directly if she does or not but has hinted that it wouldn't be an issue for her. She used to watch 4 kids in a 2 family share so I think she would feel fairly comfortable watching 3, especially if one was only home from 2:45pm - 5:30pm on school days. However before we talked to her I wanted to present her with all the facts including salary so she would know what she was committing to from the get go.

I would suggest giving her your older child's expected holiday/vacation schedule, while reminding her of the unexpected sick days. After a conversation with her, follow-up with a written proposal.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2015 08:07     Subject: Re:Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
She hasn't said directly if she does or not but has hinted that it wouldn't be an issue for her. She used to watch 4 kids in a 2 family share so I think she would feel fairly comfortable watching 3, especially if one was only home from 2:45pm - 5:30pm on school days. However before we talked to her I wanted to present her with all the facts including salary so she would know what she was committing to from the get go.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2015 08:00     Subject: Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
Did the nanny say she wants to continue with all these additional responsibilities and juggling? Sounds like quite a load.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2015 07:55     Subject: Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
I think it makes sense to raise her rate 2-4$/hr for the new baby with the new family paying the entire increase. Your kid is essentially still getting full time care while their older children is only getting minimal time with the nanny. It's really tricky to have a 3 child share that feels fair to all parties. But if you raise their portion much more than that, they would be paying close to what they could hire a no share nanny for, while you would be getting a huge deal.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2015 07:29     Subject: Re:Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
$17.80 an hour is not underpaying.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2015 22:50     Subject: Re:Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
This post is very confusing, because based on the numbers you've quoted, you are underpaying her, of the $800 is split between two families, and includes overtime.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2015 12:27     Subject: Trying to figure out appropriate pay rate for nanny share
We currently are in a nanny share with two 2.5 year old boys, M-F 8:30am - 5:30pm and pay our nanny $800 a week before taxes. She will have been with us a year in March. She has access to petty cash and a credit card for expenses while out the kids and is allowed to fill up her gas tank once or twice a month. After agreeing to this rate one of the boys entered into the Arlington county preschool program via ChildFind and is there M-F from 8am (parents drop him off) until 1pm and the nanny picks him up. She still makes the same salary per our nanny agreement.

The family with the boy in preschool currently will be continuing in the Arlington program next year and will bet here M-5 from 8am - 2:30pm. They are having another baby due this spring. My son will be entering a preschool program 3 - 4 days a week from 9am - 12:30pm and will likely be picked up and dropped off by our nanny.

She should obviously get a raise with another infant in the picture but how much should we raise it to and how should we divide the rate by each family? TIA.