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Anonymous wrote:Fire your nanny, OP. Yes, of course a nanny can take a "lunch hour" when the child is napping and rest but her break is over the instant the child wakes up. No ifs, ands or buts.

IF and only if the child sleeps for one hour. If I get an hour lunch break I am taking an hour. Unless your child gets seriously injured of course. but just because he woke up early from a nap does not mean I lose my lunch hour.

Then you should not be a nanny as you are being neglectful.

Anonymous wrote:Fire your nanny, OP. Yes, of course a nanny can take a "lunch hour" when the child is napping and rest but her break is over the instant the child wakes up. No ifs, ands or buts.

IF and only if the child sleeps for one hour. If I get an hour lunch break I am taking an hour. Unless your child gets seriously injured of course. but just because he woke up early from a nap does not mean I lose my lunch hour.

Anonymous wrote:As for cell phone use she shouldn't be playing on it during awake time.
But banning all together isn't practical.
I use my phone to stay in contact with my employers during the day.
I have my phone with me in case of emergency.
I am human ( I know shocking nannies aren't robots) I have a life outside my job. I have a family and friends of my own should they need to reach me I want them too.
I also use my phone to take pictures of the kids during the day all those little moments that are so easily missed and turn it into a keepsake for my nanny families.

I carry a phone for my employers to reach me and for my family to reach me in case of an emergency (and they have never had an emergency). Yes, you can and should absolutely ban the use of cell phones. It is getting ridiculous how many nannies and mothers I see not paying attention to their children/charges because they are texting. With nannies it is getting to be a cliche.

As for cell phone use she shouldn't be playing on it during awake time.
But banning all together isn't practical.
I use my phone to stay in contact with my employers during the day.
I have my phone with me in case of emergency.
I am human ( I know shocking nannies aren't robots) I have a life outside my job. I have a family and friends of my own should they need to reach me I want them too.
I also use my phone to take pictures of the kids during the day all those little moments that are so easily missed and turn it into a keepsake for my nanny families.

Yep. I think for the first time I see disagree with nannydeb.
There's just no excusing this behavior.
I'm all for warnings and second chances but not in this case.
No reason a child should be left in vomit.
No reason he should be unsupervised for such a long period when awake.

disagree with nannydeb -- if my child vomited in his crib while sleeping, there's no way I would need to tiptoe around the subject and disguise a warning within information. Nor would I tell the nanny that it happens on my watch, too, if it doesn't. If your child vomits he needs to be picked up and cleaned, pronto. And that is exactly what you can/should say.

Our manny used to set his alarm for half the time the baby slept. So when he could count on her to sleep for two hours, he'd sleep for an hour. Other than her naps, he was always in the same room she was.

If your nanny were mine, I'd fire her.

I want my nanny to rest when my child is napping but be there in body and spirit the instant the child wakes up. Why in the world would you keep this nanny who made your child suffer and get sick from crying?!

Fire your nanny, OP. Yes, of course a nanny can take a "lunch hour" when the child is napping and rest but her break is over the instant the child wakes up. No ifs, ands or buts.

nannydebsays wrote:Has the vomiting from being left in the crib happened more than once??? I can't quite tell from your wording above.

If it happened once, she needs to be given a formal warning, perhaps in the guise of giving her information ("Little Marco had to wait a few minutes after nap in his crib this weekend and he got so upset he vomited. Just wanted to give you a heads up!") if she is unaware you have nanny cams.

And as far as the cams go, if she doesn't know you have them, DO NOT tell her about them at this point. use the cams to keep a close eye on her while you start the search for better childcare.

If she DOES know you have cams, she is telling you she doesn't give a flying fart about her job. Fire her. No severance.

Regarding the cell phone, unless you and your spouse NEVER, EVER, EVER use your cells when baby is around, you may need to let that go if you even choose to retain her services. You can't enforce a cell phone ban, can you?

And her after work hours are hers to do with as she pleases.

The lack of supervision and the unresponsiveness would cause me to issue warnings or fire. The other stuff just adds to the issue at hand.

I agree with everything except the cell phones, An employer can require an employee to not use a cell when working.

Has the vomiting from being left in the crib happened more than once??? I can't quite tell from your wording above.

If it happened once, she needs to be given a formal warning, perhaps in the guise of giving her information ("Little Marco had to wait a few minutes after nap in his crib this weekend and he got so upset he vomited. Just wanted to give you a heads up!") if she is unaware you have nanny cams.

And as far as the cams go, if she doesn't know you have them, DO NOT tell her about them at this point. use the cams to keep a close eye on her while you start the search for better childcare.

If she DOES know you have cams, she is telling you she doesn't give a flying fart about her job. Fire her. No severance.

Regarding the cell phone, unless you and your spouse NEVER, EVER, EVER use your cells when baby is around, you may need to let that go if you even choose to retain her services. You can't enforce a cell phone ban, can you?

And her after work hours are hers to do with as she pleases.

The lack of supervision and the unresponsiveness would cause me to issue warnings or fire. The other stuff just adds to the issue at hand.

I'm pretty sure our nanny sleeps an hour so each day, but while DC is napping. Not sure that will be a possibility once DC2 comes along so we're just letting it go for now.
She is not, however, coming to work tired from multiple shifts, etc.

You have a bad nanny, OP, and should fire her immediately.

Yes, after our nanny makes our nine-month-old's homemade baby food and does his laundry, she does eat her lunch in the kitchen and does rest (maybe even dozes) but she rests in the baby's room.

You can't control what she does in her free time is the babysitting.
Your child is equally as likely to be mimicking you.

That out of the way you have a bad nanny let her go.
No reason your child should be left unattended for hours at a time. No reason whatsoever.

What is acceptable here and what isn't? How to bring this up in next week's review?

We've been noticing (via nursery cam) our child wakes up from his nap and isn't gotten out of his crib for over 45 minutes, by which time he gagged and vomited. Where was the nanny? She has the nursery cam too.
Then we've noticed (via family room cam) he was wandering around the house playing, alone from 10am to 11am, with no nanny or noise anywhere. Where was nanny? She took a phone call around 11am when we heard her likely sitting/resting/in a side room on a comfy couch.

We are going to have to bring this up - basic house rules - during this Monday's review. Not sure what is going on, if nanny is bored, exhausted from something else, or what. We feel the child should be in sight at most times and that sleeping/resting on a sofa in another room is unacceptable while he is up.

We have, to date, been OK with the nanny napping while the child is napping - though we never formally said so nor were asked by her - but now we need to have a meeting of the minds. Maybe it is a slipperly slope. She used to vacuum the kitchen crumbs/messes twice a week and now never. We are also concerned she is taking too many 5-7/8pm babysitting jobs that are negatively affecting her fulltime day job quality of work.

We are also going to have to limit cell phone usage as our child has started mimicking her by walking around the house with a phone or remote saying "Hi."