Anonymous
11/18/2014 08:28
Subject: Banking Hours, question to MBs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a nanny (not DC), and I agreed to a very stupid situation when I was hired back in February. My MB does banking of my unused hours, which comes to 1 or 2 every week. Since they had lots of trips scheduled where I'd be working 24/7 (hence, giving me the chance to pay up against my "bank"), I agreed to it and it has worked out fine, I haven't been totally happy with it but, I've put up with it and put that issue on backburner.
Today she tells me they are going away all next week (Thanksgiving). She said she will pay me as usual and we can "just add the hours to the bank".
I was speechless all I could say is, "I'm gonna owe you for the whole week????" To which she said not for Thanksgiving, that's a paid holiday.
Now. Any of you do Bank of Hours? And if so, would you do this with your nanny? I just want to find out if I'm on the wrong here. MY reasoning is, yes I agrees to banking hours, I'm ok with 1-2 hours. Does that mean I have to be ok with 40? I feel like I'm available for her and it is not my fault she decides to travel.
Nannies' input also welcome.... Thanks
You are not working those hours but are being paid for them anyways. Don't you think you should have to do something for that money? I think your MB is being very kind and reasonable.
The point is that she is available to work, and would work, were her nanny family in town. There is a cost to reserving someone's time. THAT is what OP does to deserve to be paid despite not working; she maintains her availability and doesn't accept other offers of work. Would you rather compete for your nanny's time on a weekly basis?
They aren't reserving her time... they are out of town. They AND nanny both clearly know that nanny won't be needed that week, no reservation needed. So nanny is free to take on other jobs, or go on vacation, or get drunk. YET she is still getting paid! So at some point she will need to earn that money by working, or return the money to her employer.
Yes they are. She is expected to be available for a certain schedule every week. They just happen to not be there this week.
Anonymous
11/18/2014 06:41
Subject: Banking Hours, question to MBs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a nanny (not DC), and I agreed to a very stupid situation when I was hired back in February. My MB does banking of my unused hours, which comes to 1 or 2 every week. Since they had lots of trips scheduled where I'd be working 24/7 (hence, giving me the chance to pay up against my "bank"), I agreed to it and it has worked out fine, I haven't been totally happy with it but, I've put up with it and put that issue on backburner.
Today she tells me they are going away all next week (Thanksgiving). She said she will pay me as usual and we can "just add the hours to the bank".
I was speechless all I could say is, "I'm gonna owe you for the whole week????" To which she said not for Thanksgiving, that's a paid holiday.
Now. Any of you do Bank of Hours? And if so, would you do this with your nanny? I just want to find out if I'm on the wrong here. MY reasoning is, yes I agrees to banking hours, I'm ok with 1-2 hours. Does that mean I have to be ok with 40? I feel like I'm available for her and it is not my fault she decides to travel.
Nannies' input also welcome.... Thanks
You are not working those hours but are being paid for them anyways. Don't you think you should have to do something for that money? I think your MB is being very kind and reasonable.
The point is that she is available to work, and would work, were her nanny family in town. There is a cost to reserving someone's time. THAT is what OP does to deserve to be paid despite not working; she maintains her availability and doesn't accept other offers of work. Would you rather compete for your nanny's time on a weekly basis?
They aren't reserving her time... they are out of town. They AND nanny both clearly know that nanny won't be needed that week, no reservation needed. So nanny is free to take on other jobs, or go on vacation, or get drunk. YET she is still getting paid! So at some point she will need to earn that money by working, or return the money to her employer.
Nope, that's not how it works with childcare. Banking hours is illegal. Besides it being illegal, it's almost impossible for the nanny to get out of "debt" when they bank entire weeks worth of hours. It also just leads to a nanny feeling taken advantage of and overworked, which isn't great for the relationship.
That being said, I do believe that guaranteed hours is something that needs to be negotiated, so it's not a given. OP, maybe you and your NF could come up with a compromise? Have a cap on the number of hours that you can owe? Or bank 1/2 of the hours if they are gone for the week?
Then OP should feel free to return the money she was paid for that week and ask to only be paid for the hours she actually works and drop this whole banking nonsense.
Anonymous
11/18/2014 01:14
Subject: Banking Hours, question to MBs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a nanny (not DC), and I agreed to a very stupid situation when I was hired back in February. My MB does banking of my unused hours, which comes to 1 or 2 every week. Since they had lots of trips scheduled where I'd be working 24/7 (hence, giving me the chance to pay up against my "bank"), I agreed to it and it has worked out fine, I haven't been totally happy with it but, I've put up with it and put that issue on backburner.
Today she tells me they are going away all next week (Thanksgiving). She said she will pay me as usual and we can "just add the hours to the bank".
I was speechless all I could say is, "I'm gonna owe you for the whole week????" To which she said not for Thanksgiving, that's a paid holiday.
Now. Any of you do Bank of Hours? And if so, would you do this with your nanny? I just want to find out if I'm on the wrong here. MY reasoning is, yes I agrees to banking hours, I'm ok with 1-2 hours. Does that mean I have to be ok with 40? I feel like I'm available for her and it is not my fault she decides to travel.
Nannies' input also welcome.... Thanks
You are not working those hours but are being paid for them anyways. Don't you think you should have to do something for that money? I think your MB is being very kind and reasonable.
The point is that she is available to work, and would work, were her nanny family in town. There is a cost to reserving someone's time. THAT is what OP does to deserve to be paid despite not working; she maintains her availability and doesn't accept other offers of work. Would you rather compete for your nanny's time on a weekly basis?
They aren't reserving her time... they are out of town. They AND nanny both clearly know that nanny won't be needed that week, no reservation needed. So nanny is free to take on other jobs, or go on vacation, or get drunk. YET she is still getting paid! So at some point she will need to earn that money by working, or return the money to her employer.[/quote]
Nope, that's not how it works with childcare. Banking hours is illegal. Besides it being illegal, it's almost impossible for the nanny to get out of "debt" when they bank entire weeks worth of hours. It also just leads to a nanny feeling taken advantage of and overworked, which isn't great for the relationship.
That being said, I do believe that guaranteed hours is something that needs to be negotiated, so it's not a given. OP, maybe you and your NF could come up with a compromise? Have a cap on the number of hours that you can owe? Or bank 1/2 of the hours if they are gone for the week?
Anonymous
11/18/2014 00:13
Subject: Banking Hours, question to MBs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a nanny (not DC), and I agreed to a very stupid situation when I was hired back in February. My MB does banking of my unused hours, which comes to 1 or 2 every week. Since they had lots of trips scheduled where I'd be working 24/7 (hence, giving me the chance to pay up against my "bank"), I agreed to it and it has worked out fine, I haven't been totally happy with it but, I've put up with it and put that issue on backburner.
Today she tells me they are going away all next week (Thanksgiving). She said she will pay me as usual and we can "just add the hours to the bank".
I was speechless all I could say is, "I'm gonna owe you for the whole week????" To which she said not for Thanksgiving, that's a paid holiday.
Now. Any of you do Bank of Hours? And if so, would you do this with your nanny? I just want to find out if I'm on the wrong here. MY reasoning is, yes I agrees to banking hours, I'm ok with 1-2 hours. Does that mean I have to be ok with 40? I feel like I'm available for her and it is not my fault she decides to travel.
Nannies' input also welcome.... Thanks
You are not working those hours but are being paid for them anyways. Don't you think you should have to do something for that money? I think your MB is being very kind and reasonable.
The point is that she is available to work, and would work, were her nanny family in town. There is a cost to reserving someone's time. THAT is what OP does to deserve to be paid despite not working; she maintains her availability and doesn't accept other offers of work. Would you rather compete for your nanny's time on a weekly basis?
They aren't reserving her time... they are out of town. They AND nanny both clearly know that nanny won't be needed that week, no reservation needed. So nanny is free to take on other jobs, or go on vacation, or get drunk. YET she is still getting paid! So at some point she will need to earn that money by working, or return the money to her employer.
Anonymous
11/17/2014 21:56
Subject: Banking Hours, question to MBs
Mb here. We never bank hours. It's not fair to our nanny. We have guaranteed hours and if we don't use them, well, that's on us because she is available to work.
Anonymous
11/17/2014 20:23
Subject: Banking Hours, question to MBs
The other thing is that they actually owe you for overtime if you work more than 40 hours in a week. They can't pay you for those hours in week 1, and then use them in week 4 in addition to all of your regular hours. That is illegal.
Anonymous
11/17/2014 20:19
Subject: Banking Hours, question to MBs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a nanny (not DC), and I agreed to a very stupid situation when I was hired back in February. My MB does banking of my unused hours, which comes to 1 or 2 every week. Since they had lots of trips scheduled where I'd be working 24/7 (hence, giving me the chance to pay up against my "bank"), I agreed to it and it has worked out fine, I haven't been totally happy with it but, I've put up with it and put that issue on backburner.
Today she tells me they are going away all next week (Thanksgiving). She said she will pay me as usual and we can "just add the hours to the bank".
I was speechless all I could say is, "I'm gonna owe you for the whole week????" To which she said not for Thanksgiving, that's a paid holiday.
Now. Any of you do Bank of Hours? And if so, would you do this with your nanny? I just want to find out if I'm on the wrong here. MY reasoning is, yes I agrees to banking hours, I'm ok with 1-2 hours. Does that mean I have to be ok with 40? I feel like I'm available for her and it is not my fault she decides to travel.
Nannies' input also welcome.... Thanks
You are not working those hours but are being paid for them anyways. Don't you think you should have to do something for that money? I think your MB is being very kind and reasonable.
The point is that she is available to work, and would work, were her nanny family in town. There is a cost to reserving someone's time. THAT is what OP does to deserve to be paid despite not working; she maintains her availability and doesn't accept other offers of work. Would you rather compete for your nanny's time on a weekly basis?
Anonymous
11/17/2014 20:04
Subject: Banking Hours, question to MBs
Anonymous wrote:I am a nanny (not DC), and I agreed to a very stupid situation when I was hired back in February. My MB does banking of my unused hours, which comes to 1 or 2 every week. Since they had lots of trips scheduled where I'd be working 24/7 (hence, giving me the chance to pay up against my "bank"), I agreed to it and it has worked out fine, I haven't been totally happy with it but, I've put up with it and put that issue on backburner.
Today she tells me they are going away all next week (Thanksgiving). She said she will pay me as usual and we can "just add the hours to the bank".
I was speechless all I could say is, "I'm gonna owe you for the whole week????" To which she said not for Thanksgiving, that's a paid holiday.
Now. Any of you do Bank of Hours? And if so, would you do this with your nanny? I just want to find out if I'm on the wrong here. MY reasoning is, yes I agrees to banking hours, I'm ok with 1-2 hours. Does that mean I have to be ok with 40? I feel like I'm available for her and it is not my fault she decides to travel.
Nannies' input also welcome.... Thanks
You are not working those hours but are being paid for them anyways. Don't you think you should have to do something for that money? I think your MB is being very kind and reasonable.
Anonymous
11/17/2014 19:50
Subject: Banking Hours, question to MBs
That makes nonsense. You are scheduled and available to work. They pay you. We do not worry about each of us being a few minutes late but when we go on vacation, nanny is paid.
Anonymous
11/17/2014 19:24
Subject: Banking Hours, question to MBs
Never agree to banking hours. It only benefits the employers, not the nanny. Next time you enter into a new contract with a new family, ask for guaranteed hours specified (say Mon-Fri 7pm-6pm). You are available during those hours. If they choose not to use you during those hours, they need to pay you (except for overtime, overtime only kicks in for hours actually worked). Never agree to making up hours at the employer's bidding and demand.
Anonymous
11/17/2014 19:05
Subject: Re:Banking Hours, question to MBs
They shouldn't be banking hours - my nanny family is going to be gone three weeks from now until the end of the year and it's just paid vacation time for me. You did agree to it though, so I'm not sure what you can do besides give notice.
Anonymous
11/17/2014 18:52
Subject: Banking Hours, question to MBs
Stick it out until your one-year anniversary, and then renegotiate. Or, decide this is a deal-breaker and move on.
Anonymous
11/17/2014 18:51
Subject: Banking Hours, question to MBs
We don't bank hours because it's unfair to nanny. Unfortunately you agreed to it so I'm not sure what you can do...
Anonymous
11/17/2014 18:30
Subject: Banking Hours, question to MBs
They are going away, you should be paid and
not have to make up the hours
not have to make up the hours
Anonymous
11/17/2014 18:25
Subject: Banking Hours, question to MBs
I am a nanny (not DC), and I agreed to a very stupid situation when I was hired back in February. My MB does banking of my unused hours, which comes to 1 or 2 every week. Since they had lots of trips scheduled where I'd be working 24/7 (hence, giving me the chance to pay up against my "bank"), I agreed to it and it has worked out fine, I haven't been totally happy with it but, I've put up with it and put that issue on backburner.
Today she tells me they are going away all next week (Thanksgiving). She said she will pay me as usual and we can "just add the hours to the bank".
I was speechless all I could say is, "I'm gonna owe you for the whole week????" To which she said not for Thanksgiving, that's a paid holiday.
Now. Any of you do Bank of Hours? And if so, would you do this with your nanny? I just want to find out if I'm on the wrong here. MY reasoning is, yes I agrees to banking hours, I'm ok with 1-2 hours. Does that mean I have to be ok with 40? I feel like I'm available for her and it is not my fault she decides to travel.
Nannies' input also welcome.... Thanks
Today she tells me they are going away all next week (Thanksgiving). She said she will pay me as usual and we can "just add the hours to the bank".
I was speechless all I could say is, "I'm gonna owe you for the whole week????" To which she said not for Thanksgiving, that's a paid holiday.
Now. Any of you do Bank of Hours? And if so, would you do this with your nanny? I just want to find out if I'm on the wrong here. MY reasoning is, yes I agrees to banking hours, I'm ok with 1-2 hours. Does that mean I have to be ok with 40? I feel like I'm available for her and it is not my fault she decides to travel.
Nannies' input also welcome.... Thanks