I would only offer to work for a reduced rate OP if the job allows YOU to sleep as well along w/the kids. Because in my opinion, if it is a sleeping allowed on the job position and her kids will sleep soundly alongside you then that is a huge perk and I would willingly accept it. Sleeping hours for everyone would be a win-win.

However, if you are expected to stay awake the whole time, then she is being unfair and unreasonable.

Do firefighters get their pay docked when it is off fire season and they spend more time in the fire station "playing cards" than out in the field fighting fires??!

NO!!
Because regardless, they have to be on call all the time during their shift "just in case."

Just like a babysitter/nanny does.

It's a no brainer.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umm no!!

Hopefully this is a babysitting job and don't go back.

Are you at their house? Are you still making sure the children are ok? Can you just leave and go out with friends? Can you crack open a beer or two and relax? Can you call some friends and have them come over for a movie night??


You are WORKING. Please stand up for yourself. Just because you are a people pleaser doesn't mean you should be a door mat

You are absurd. It may be work, and get work may be worth $X per hour during the day, but it is totally reasonable to take a pay cut to watch TV while the kids sleep. If the parents ask you to babysit outside of normal work hours is because it's convenient for them, extra money for you, and might be a win-win but if you don't want to do it just say no.

As for OP, same thing, if you are so stuck up that you feel you deserve your normal daytime working rate to watch TV while kids sleep then you are more than welcome to tell her no, you need your full rare, and go with your idea to offer to help her find a local sitter for the future. Maybe they will get lucky and find a new many too.

You are an effing idiot.

Agree. I was going to respond but decided that you can't argue with stupid.

Then why is it that nannying is the only job where people who work over 40 hours a week should be lowering their rates rather than receiving OT?

Because babysitting is not nanny in, it's a different job. Just like if you're boss came to you at work and asked if you would like to volunteer to work at a fundraiser for $30 an hour. It doesn't matter if you are the CFO, the IT guy, or the janitor this is a different one time temporary job, just like babysitting for your NF after hours.

Anonymous wrote:Tell her you've thought it over and cannot lower your rate. Unless you can party, drink beer, etc., then you are still working. You tell her this immediately and stop beinv a people pleaser.

+1. Tell her the question took you by surprise, that after you thought it over, you will not be able to lower your rate.

Anonymous wrote:Your posts are very confusing, OP. Does she want you to lower your regular rate during the day? Or does she want to pay less for evening sitting?

Because if she wants you to lower your regular rate during the day for naps or whenever, no way. That is ridiculous.

However, if she wants to pay less for evening sitting outside of your regular job, she can certainly set a lower rate, but she shouldn't expect you to accept it. In other words, she should be employing a different babysitter in the evening at whatever rate she wants to pay.

Of course, if you *want* the extra evening hours, then you might have to accept a different rate. I'm not saying you *should* accept a lower rate. I'm just saying there is nothing wrong with paying an evening babysitter less than a daytime nanny because they are different jobs.

But legally she can't. Legally, she owes 1.5x for anything over 40 hours, no matter what you want to call it. This is why my nanny, who desperately wants to earn more money, rarely babysits for us. I hire someone else, and refer her to other people.

Your posts are very confusing, OP. Does she want you to lower your regular rate during the day? Or does she want to pay less for evening sitting?

Because if she wants you to lower your regular rate during the day for naps or whenever, no way. That is ridiculous.

However, if she wants to pay less for evening sitting outside of your regular job, she can certainly set a lower rate, but she shouldn't expect you to accept it. In other words, she should be employing a different babysitter in the evening at whatever rate she wants to pay.

Of course, if you *want* the extra evening hours, then you might have to accept a different rate. I'm not saying you *should* accept a lower rate. I'm just saying there is nothing wrong with paying an evening babysitter less than a daytime nanny because they are different jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:Umm no!!

Hopefully this is a babysitting job and don't go back.

Are you at their house? Are you still making sure the children are ok? Can you just leave and go out with friends? Can you crack open a beer or two and relax? Can you call some friends and have them come over for a movie night??


You are WORKING. Please stand up for yourself. Just because you are a people pleaser doesn't mean you should be a door mat

You are absurd. It may be work, and get work may be worth $X per hour during the day, but it is totally reasonable to take a pay cut to watch TV while the kids sleep. If the parents ask you to babysit outside of normal work hours is because it's convenient for them, extra money for you, and might be a win-win but if you don't want to do it just say no.

As for OP, same thing, if you are so stuck up that you feel you deserve your normal daytime working rate to watch TV while kids sleep then you are more than welcome to tell her no, you need your full rare, and go with your idea to offer to help her find a local sitter for the future. Maybe they will get lucky and find a new many too.

So in your thinking, when other jobs are slow (ie no projects due or finished, you can surf the web, etc) do you get a lower wage? When you sit and gab with a co worker for hours do you get a lower wage?

I get my same rate because I am working. I am not sleeping, drinking, partying, chatting with friends, sitting at home watching a movie, having sex with my fiancee. No I'm at someone's home making sure THEIR child and home are ok while they are out.

Here's another thought, if the child wakes and I comfort the child does the wage go back up?? If I don't care about the money can I just ignore the child til the parents come home? I mean I'm just being paid to sit and watch tv right?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umm no!!

Hopefully this is a babysitting job and don't go back.

Are you at their house? Are you still making sure the children are ok? Can you just leave and go out with friends? Can you crack open a beer or two and relax? Can you call some friends and have them come over for a movie night??


You are WORKING. Please stand up for yourself. Just because you are a people pleaser doesn't mean you should be a door mat

You are absurd. It may be work, and get work may be worth $X per hour during the day, but it is totally reasonable to take a pay cut to watch TV while the kids sleep. If the parents ask you to babysit outside of normal work hours is because it's convenient for them, extra money for you, and might be a win-win but if you don't want to do it just say no.

As for OP, same thing, if you are so stuck up that you feel you deserve your normal daytime working rate to watch TV while kids sleep then you are more than welcome to tell her no, you need your full rare, and go with your idea to offer to help her find a local sitter for the future. Maybe they will get lucky and find a new many too.

You are an effing idiot.

Agree. I was going to respond but decided that you can't argue with stupid.

Then why is it that nannying is the only job where people who work over 40 hours a week should be lowering their rates rather than receiving OT?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umm no!!

Hopefully this is a babysitting job and don't go back.

Are you at their house? Are you still making sure the children are ok? Can you just leave and go out with friends? Can you crack open a beer or two and relax? Can you call some friends and have them come over for a movie night??


You are WORKING. Please stand up for yourself. Just because you are a people pleaser doesn't mean you should be a door mat

You are absurd. It may be work, and get work may be worth $X per hour during the day, but it is totally reasonable to take a pay cut to watch TV while the kids sleep. If the parents ask you to babysit outside of normal work hours is because it's convenient for them, extra money for you, and might be a win-win but if you don't want to do it just say no.

As for OP, same thing, if you are so stuck up that you feel you deserve your normal daytime working rate to watch TV while kids sleep then you are more than welcome to tell her no, you need your full rare, and go with your idea to offer to help her find a local sitter for the future. Maybe they will get lucky and find a new many too.

You are an effing idiot.

Agree. I was going to respond but decided that you can't argue with stupid.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umm no!!

Hopefully this is a babysitting job and don't go back.

Are you at their house? Are you still making sure the children are ok? Can you just leave and go out with friends? Can you crack open a beer or two and relax? Can you call some friends and have them come over for a movie night??


You are WORKING. Please stand up for yourself. Just because you are a people pleaser doesn't mean you should be a door mat

You are absurd. It may be work, and get work may be worth $X per hour during the day, but it is totally reasonable to take a pay cut to watch TV while the kids sleep. If the parents ask you to babysit outside of normal work hours is because it's convenient for them, extra money for you, and might be a win-win but if you don't want to do it just say no.

As for OP, same thing, if you are so stuck up that you feel you deserve your normal daytime working rate to watch TV while kids sleep then you are more than welcome to tell her no, you need your full rare, and go with your idea to offer to help her find a local sitter for the future. Maybe they will get lucky and find a new many too.

You are an effing idiot.

Tell her you've thought it over and cannot lower your rate. Unless you can party, drink beer, etc., then you are still working. You tell her this immediately and stop beinv a people pleaser.

*nanny, not many

Anonymous wrote:Umm no!!

Hopefully this is a babysitting job and don't go back.

Are you at their house? Are you still making sure the children are ok? Can you just leave and go out with friends? Can you crack open a beer or two and relax? Can you call some friends and have them come over for a movie night??


You are WORKING. Please stand up for yourself. Just because you are a people pleaser doesn't mean you should be a door mat

You are absurd. It may be work, and get work may be worth $X per hour during the day, but it is totally reasonable to take a pay cut to watch TV while the kids sleep. If the parents ask you to babysit outside of normal work hours is because it's convenient for them, extra money for you, and might be a win-win but if you don't want to do it just say no.

As for OP, same thing, if you are so stuck up that you feel you deserve your normal daytime working rate to watch TV while kids sleep then you are more than welcome to tell her no, you need your full rare, and go with your idea to offer to help her find a local sitter for the future. Maybe they will get lucky and find a new many too.

Unfortunately this don't just a babysitting job... I've been working with the family since March.. Paid hourly until July then we did a nanny share PT and had a set rate based on hourly that she paid each month (along with another family) now it's full time since September fixed month rate/with other family based on hourly...

Am I SOL here?? We have had a great working relationship so far. I know they aren't strapped for money at all!! I feel really hurt.
Because of the amount she is paying me ( haven't made that much in 4 years) I didn't clean up thier mess tonight. The cream cheese sat open on the counter... Placemats on the table ect... Usually I would do these things for the amount she pays me but if she thinks I'm only going to sit on the couch and do nothing all night then that's what I'll do...

I've decided to either bring it up tomorrow or next time she asks me to babysit outside of working hours I will mention a few teenager (who don't drive or usually work past midnight) to help her out.... Uhh I feel so unapricated. Literally I make sure the house is spotless every day, laundry done, beds made, pjs out and clothes for the next day.... And there are 4 kids to look after... I.need.wine...

Umm no!!

Hopefully this is a babysitting job and don't go back.

Are you at their house? Are you still making sure the children are ok? Can you just leave and go out with friends? Can you crack open a beer or two and relax? Can you call some friends and have them come over for a movie night??


You are WORKING. Please stand up for yourself. Just because you are a people pleaser doesn't mean you should be a door mat

Right as she was about to leave she asked if she could pay me $5 less an hour because the kids are asleep.... I said yes because i am a people pleaser but I am so regretting it and am feeling really resentful... I go ABOVE and BEYOND every single day for this family and they are not hurting for money.... uhhh I feel sick

Do you lower your rate when the kids are asleep?