Anonymous
Post 09/17/2014 01:57     Subject: Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

It is not my or your business, but if in fact she is working all these hours what exactly is she involved in and what is her background ?? She's making over $50k a year and still need to work like a dog? She's practically working 7 days a week! Maybe she has kids, a family etc but that's just a bit much. Something just isn't adding up, someone making well over a $1,000/wk wouldn't work 7 days a week :/ but what do I know. On the bright side, I need to consider doing shares.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2014 17:01     Subject: Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

Anonymous wrote:I call bullshit on the salary


You must be paid poorly.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2014 13:42     Subject: Re:Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

Address the job performance directly. It doesn't matter why she is doing these things, only that they are happening and need to stop.

A parent from each family should wit down w/ her (together) and say "Jane, in the past few weeks we have noticed that you seem to be struggling with remembering the kids things, remembering the schedule, frequently needing to leave early at the end of the day, etc... When this is an occasional thing it's no big deal for us to work around, or to go pick things up that were forgotten, but it seems to be happening with some regularity and that doesn't seem typical for you. Why do you think this is happening?"

Then see what she says. Absolutely some checklists might be in order, but she also needs to know that her job requirements include working the full hours for which she is contracted and ensuring that the kids have their critical things with them at the end of hte day.


This is good advice.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2014 06:32     Subject: Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

Anonymous wrote:

Nanny, we love the way you care for Larla and Aiden, but we also see that attentiveness is becoming a problem. We need you to be focused on the kids--no personal calls or emails--during their waking hours. We have also noticed some problems with transitions. I have made some lists of key items that we need at each pickup/Friday move and we need you to be focused during transition times so that items and information can be passed on efficiently. Lastly, we are not going to be able to continue offering you so many days off. You are of course welcome to use your PTO, but we will need X weeks notice for each use, and we will likely not be able to accomodate unpaid leave when your PTO is gone. How can we work together to make all this happen? We don't want to lose you and therefore these issue need to be addressed."

Larla and Aiden have been learning to get ready themselves. They are excited about this new responsibility and it has given them a sense of accomplishment.
A list could be helpful as we could read that at storytime. Currently they love Winnie the Pooh, but a list would also be good reading
The only time I read emails and text messages is when I get them from you. I think transitions wpuld work better if you arrived a little more early.
As you know, I have not taken all the vacation that I qualify for, and have even come to work when I am sick. So no need to wory about my PTO being gone
If only you would also stick to the contract, and say hello and ask how the day went.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2014 22:51     Subject: Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

I call bullshit on the salary
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2014 20:55     Subject: Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

How did you not remember your sons medicine?
Can you not look after your sons diaper bag?
If you pack it in the morning, you will remember what you packed, just open it and have a look when you get your kid.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2014 16:02     Subject: Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

After taxes, she gets $1000 plus overtime from both families plus the weekend and evening jobs. She makes $550 for working two days for one family. She is doing quite well!
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2014 12:48     Subject: Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

She gets a thousand a week from you PLUS however much from the other family in the share? Then on top of that she's working even more? Whoa.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2014 11:07     Subject: Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

It bothers me that you need to set her up with a check list. When at a job, if I forget something significant once or twice, I make my own check list. You notice the things she misses at the end of the day because you directly see the results. I'm wondering what she is neglecting during the day.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2014 09:13     Subject: Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

Address the job performance directly. It doesn't matter why she is doing these things, only that they are happening and need to stop.

A parent from each family should wit down w/ her (together) and say "Jane, in the past few weeks we have noticed that you seem to be struggling with remembering the kids things, remembering the schedule, frequently needing to leave early at the end of the day, etc... When this is an occasional thing it's no big deal for us to work around, or to go pick things up that were forgotten, but it seems to be happening with some regularity and that doesn't seem typical for you. Why do you think this is happening?"

Then see what she says. Absolutely some checklists might be in order, but she also needs to know that her job requirements include working the full hours for which she is contracted and ensuring that the kids have their critical things with them at the end of hte day.

Anonymous
Post 09/15/2014 09:02     Subject: Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

Yes the other family noticed she was distracted and forgetful. Plus the other mom had to gather a bunch of my child's things which isn't her job. I liked the suggestion of the list when we switch homes.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2014 07:43     Subject: Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

This is tricky. What she does on her own time is her business, but it's a different story when it begins to interfere with her work.

Does the other share family share your concerns?
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2014 07:31     Subject: Re:Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

Thanks! That is a perfect suggestion.
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2014 07:00     Subject: Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

You need to be unified with the other parents on this if you can. Then you need to address it as an issue of WHAT the problem is, not WHY she's having the problem. So rather than focusing on her work during off hours, focus only on the problem behavior you see:
Nanny, we love the way you care for Larla and Aiden, but we also see that attentiveness is becoming a problem. We need you to be focused on the kids--no personal calls or emails--during their waking hours. We have also noticed some problems with transitions. I have made some lists of key items that we need at each pickup/Friday move and we need you to be focused during transition times so that items and information can be passed on efficiently. Lastly, we are not going to be able to continue offering you so many days off. You are of course welcome to use your PTO, but we will need X weeks notice for each use, and we will likely not be able to accomodate unpaid leave when your PTO is gone. How can we work together to make all this happen? We don't want to lose you and therefore these issue need to be addressed."
Anonymous
Post 09/15/2014 03:51     Subject: Addressing how nanny's side jobs are impacting work

We have a full-time nanny share. We like to think that we pay our nanny well and are pretty flexible. After work and on weekends, our nanny has regular jobs with past families. Our nanny is very good at taking care of our children and I feel like she genuinely cares about them. However, lately she has been asking us to leave early or been distracted at the end of the day, forgetting important items on the Fridays we switch homes (we do two weeks at each family's home). I think that it is because she has regular jobs an hour or two after we get off or back to back. We pay our nanny very well, give bonuses and recognize her work with special treats and gifts. Last Friday, I came to get my son and she was arranging her ride to the next job with a past family. She forgot many of my son's key items, including his medicine. I had to go back to the other family's home and get the items she forgot. She also asked us if she could have a half day next week to have an appointment.

We've allowed her to leave early for appointments or if we get home early, but we also have not had a problem saying no. She was used to another family letting her off early on Fridays. Even if I get out of work early Friday, I need that extra time to run errands, clean up around my house, go to the gym and sometimes go to happy hour in our neighborhood my husband.

We guarantee her at least $1000 a week, give a stipend for phone, insurance and metro and provide all paid federal holidays and two weeks of paid leave. Even when we go out of town or I travel out of town for work and need to take my son, we pay her her weekly rate. We are never late getting home from work and always allow her to leave on time.

How should I address this with our nanny? I want to be direct and say that when you are working with us, you need to be focused on our home and our children, not arranging rides and forgetting key items. I think that the nanny might take advantage of me and the other mom because we are pretty flexible employers.