Anonymous
07/17/2014 13:20
Subject: Re:should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She has vacation that she already took and sick days - only 1 left. She used most of them very quickly - literally in 2 months..
In this case then, I would be getting concerned if she requested the time but didn't specify whether she would be using her remaining leave or if she was asking for unpaid leave. I would not recommend getting in the habit of allowing her extra paid time off, or advancing leave - especially if she's relatively new in her tenure with you. (We have had a nanny for three years now and we're flexible about time and leave in ways we never would have been in the beginning, but that's built on trust and established/demonstrated good faith on all sides.)
Without knowing the specifics of her tenure and your satisfaction with her performance I can't say exactly what I'd recommend, but I do think that at minimum you need a clear conversation with her about leave, expectations for time off, etc..
Frankly, our satisfaction with her performance is pretty poor. This is the other part of the story. As she has already used most of her sick days in such a short time, we wonder wha's gonna happen when she is really sick and needs time off..
I'm the MB above in the quote. I'm reading between the lines but it sounds like she's new, burning leave, requesting additional time, and your gut is telling you that things might get difficult. I would suggest finding another nanny and giving this one notice. Or, at absolute minimum, having a performance review conversation immediately so you can be very clear about your expectations and concerns and give her a chance to turn things around.
What a bummer.
When you find a great nanny it will feel like a completely different relationship than this and it will bring you peace of mind, not greater anxiety.
Anonymous
07/17/2014 13:00
Subject: should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did you find her on care.com?
No, I didn't. Is it relevant?
Yes, it actually is. But go ahead and get another one in the same place you got this one. Then in three months, let us know how it's going for you, ok?
Not OP. Why is it relevant?
You must be new around here.
Why do you think it's called "scam.com"?
Anonymous
07/17/2014 13:00
Subject: should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
If she has used up her PTO, then you treat any additional approved hours off as unpaid leave. And yes, be concerned about the burn rate on vacation and sick days. In specific situations (medical or family with documentation) we have allowed vacation to be used before being accrued, but I would not do that with a relatively new employee--you need to be 100% sure the nanny will still be around to work that time and earn the PTO later.
Anonymous
07/17/2014 12:58
Subject: should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did you find her on care.com?
No, I didn't. Is it relevant?
Yes, it actually is. But go ahead and get another one in the same place you got this one. Then in three months, let us know how it's going for you, ok?
Not OP. Why is it relevant?
Anonymous
07/17/2014 12:55
Subject: should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did you find her on care.com?
No, I didn't. Is it relevant?
Yes, it actually is. But go ahead and get another one in the same place you got this one. Then in three months, let us know how it's going for you, ok?
Anonymous
07/17/2014 12:32
Subject: Re:should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:She has vacation that she already took and sick days - only 1 left. She used most of them very quickly - literally in 2 months..
In this case then, I would be getting concerned if she requested the time but didn't specify whether she would be using her remaining leave or if she was asking for unpaid leave. I would not recommend getting in the habit of allowing her extra paid time off, or advancing leave - especially if she's relatively new in her tenure with you. (We have had a nanny for three years now and we're flexible about time and leave in ways we never would have been in the beginning, but that's built on trust and established/demonstrated good faith on all sides.)
Without knowing the specifics of her tenure and your satisfaction with her performance I can't say exactly what I'd recommend, but I do think that at minimum you need a clear conversation with her about leave, expectations for time off, etc..
Frankly, our satisfaction with her performance is pretty poor. This is the other part of the story. As she has already used most of her sick days in such a short time, we wonder wha's gonna happen when she is really sick and needs time off..
Anonymous
07/17/2014 12:20
Subject: should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
I wouldn't pay in less she was sick or a family emergency (or something else reasonable). Leave or LWOP. Ask her how she wants to handle it.
Anonymous
07/17/2014 12:11
Subject: Re:should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
Anonymous wrote:She has vacation that she already took and sick days - only 1 left. She used most of them very quickly - literally in 2 months..
In this case then, I would be getting concerned if she requested the time but didn't specify whether she would be using her remaining leave or if she was asking for unpaid leave. I would not recommend getting in the habit of allowing her extra paid time off, or advancing leave - especially if she's relatively new in her tenure with you. (We have had a nanny for three years now and we're flexible about time and leave in ways we never would have been in the beginning, but that's built on trust and established/demonstrated good faith on all sides.)
Without knowing the specifics of her tenure and your satisfaction with her performance I can't say exactly what I'd recommend, but I do think that at minimum you need a clear conversation with her about leave, expectations for time off, etc..
Anonymous
07/17/2014 12:09
Subject: should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
Anonymous wrote:Did you find her on care.com?
No, I didn't. Is it relevant?
Anonymous
07/17/2014 12:06
Subject: should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
Did you find her on care.com?
Anonymous
07/17/2014 11:50
Subject: Re:should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
She has vacation that she already took and sick days - only 1 left. She used most of them very quickly - literally in 2 months..
Anonymous
07/17/2014 11:48
Subject: should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
In general, the answer is no, she isn't paid, even with guarenteed hours, if she takes time off unless she uses PTO.
You should have this all clarified contractually. How much paid time off does she have? Is it divided into vacation/personal day and sick/emergency pools or is it just one type of PTO? How much notice do you require for non emergencies? And finally, are you willing to allow unpaid time off (for non emergencies) if she is either out of PTO or wants to save it. Even unpaid nonemergency time off is a benefit and shouldn't be assumed.
You should have this all clarified contractually. How much paid time off does she have? Is it divided into vacation/personal day and sick/emergency pools or is it just one type of PTO? How much notice do you require for non emergencies? And finally, are you willing to allow unpaid time off (for non emergencies) if she is either out of PTO or wants to save it. Even unpaid nonemergency time off is a benefit and shouldn't be assumed.
Anonymous
07/17/2014 11:47
Subject: should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
I agree w/ the pp - this is what vacation/sick leave/PTO is for.
Anonymous
07/17/2014 11:44
Subject: should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
Does she not have PTO to use? Has she used all he PTO for the year already?
Not offering any employee any PTO of her choosing is a kind crummy thing to do, so I'd advise paying her for these 4 hours if thats the case.
If she's already used up her PTO though, then no I do not think you need to pay it.
Not offering any employee any PTO of her choosing is a kind crummy thing to do, so I'd advise paying her for these 4 hours if thats the case.
If she's already used up her PTO though, then no I do not think you need to pay it.
Anonymous
07/17/2014 11:37
Subject: should we pay nanny for hours she didn't work ? - please advise
We pay our nanny hourly rate, however she has guaranteed hours. A few days ago she told me she would have to leave earlier one day. And she left at 2 pm instead of 6 pm ( 4h ). I had to take care of the kids. Should we lower her weekly rate? 4h is not a big deal but still. She didn't work her regular hours, I had to do her job and I think she shouldn't be paid for the time when she didn't work because she had to run some personal errands. What do you think?