Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 13:41     Subject: Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You should definately be informed if any potential employers have been investigated for child abuse or neglect. Red flag for sure.


Nanny here. I agree with you. And I agree that potential employer's should check CPS records for nannies. Although it is amazing the difference in responses between the two posts about checking with CPS about any reports.


+1. I agree that it should go both ways. Every potential employee should do a background check on their potential employer and vice versa. It's just common sense but seriously there are SO many hypocritical people on here. The large majority of posts on the other thread where about how awful OP was for reporting her nanny (when it wasn't even OP who reported her anyway) and poor poor nanny who did nothing wrong but is just being persecuted anyway. When it's the employer being reported though it's a totally different story. FWIW it doesn't even matter because there are only very few states in which CPS records are made public.


Nobody on the other thread said those things AT ALL.


Um really? How about these direct quotes:

"I'm very, very interested in finding out what your nanny did to make you report her to CPS.
Any childcare provider who has pissed off a parent could be on it.
Completely unethical. I'm seriously contacting the ACLU.
This can't be legal."

"The reputation of this woman is ruined because someone made an accusation.
My son told his teachers that nobody is home to give him dinner. If the teachers called CPS to report this claim (which is absolutely false), my name could be added to some list of child absusers/neglecters.
If there is evidence of a crime-it will most likely be prosecuted. Otherwise, it is an unproven incident.
I'm pissed because people are publicly outed without having been found guilty in a court.
Did your nanny have previous reports filed with CPS, OP? Was this her first incident?"



None of these quotes suggest that the nanny is being persecuted. They suggest that it is possible that these accusations are unfounded as they weren't tried in a court setting.
Neither did they suggest OP was horrible for reporting the nanny, as OP didn't report the nanny. They were suggesting that because one person supposedly witnessed an incident, that without any actual evidence, it is irresponsible to label her a child abuser.
If a person hurts a child and the proper authorities have actual evidence that she did, place her name on a billboard for all I care.
The word of one woman should not derail the life and career of someone...especially if their word is the only thing tying them to a supposed incident. Since OP won't tell us anymore, it's impossible to know for sure.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 11:54     Subject: Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You should definately be informed if any potential employers have been investigated for child abuse or neglect. Red flag for sure.


Nanny here. I agree with you. And I agree that potential employer's should check CPS records for nannies. Although it is amazing the difference in responses between the two posts about checking with CPS about any reports.


+1. I agree that it should go both ways. Every potential employee should do a background check on their potential employer and vice versa. It's just common sense but seriously there are SO many hypocritical people on here. The large majority of posts on the other thread where about how awful OP was for reporting her nanny (when it wasn't even OP who reported her anyway) and poor poor nanny who did nothing wrong but is just being persecuted anyway. When it's the employer being reported though it's a totally different story. FWIW it doesn't even matter because there are only very few states in which CPS records are made public.


Nobody on the other thread said those things AT ALL.


Um really? How about these direct quotes:

"I'm very, very interested in finding out what your nanny did to make you report her to CPS.
Any childcare provider who has pissed off a parent could be on it.
Completely unethical. I'm seriously contacting the ACLU.
This can't be legal."

"The reputation of this woman is ruined because someone made an accusation.
My son told his teachers that nobody is home to give him dinner. If the teachers called CPS to report this claim (which is absolutely false), my name could be added to some list of child absusers/neglecters.
If there is evidence of a crime-it will most likely be prosecuted. Otherwise, it is an unproven incident.
I'm pissed because people are publicly outed without having been found guilty in a court.
Did your nanny have previous reports filed with CPS, OP? Was this her first incident?"

Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 11:34     Subject: Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You should definately be informed if any potential employers have been investigated for child abuse or neglect. Red flag for sure.


Nanny here. I agree with you. And I agree that potential employer's should check CPS records for nannies. Although it is amazing the difference in responses between the two posts about checking with CPS about any reports.


+1. I agree that it should go both ways. Every potential employee should do a background check on their potential employer and vice versa. It's just common sense but seriously there are SO many hypocritical people on here. The large majority of posts on the other thread where about how awful OP was for reporting her nanny (when it wasn't even OP who reported her anyway) and poor poor nanny who did nothing wrong but is just being persecuted anyway. When it's the employer being reported though it's a totally different story. FWIW it doesn't even matter because there are only very few states in which CPS records are made public.


Nobody on the other thread said those things AT ALL.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 11:22     Subject: Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You should definately be informed if any potential employers have been investigated for child abuse or neglect. Red flag for sure.


Nanny here. I agree with you. And I agree that potential employer's should check CPS records for nannies. Although it is amazing the difference in responses between the two posts about checking with CPS about any reports.


+1. I agree that it should go both ways. Every potential employee should do a background check on their potential employer and vice versa. It's just common sense but seriously there are SO many hypocritical people on here. The large majority of posts on the other thread where about how awful OP was for reporting her nanny (when it wasn't even OP who reported her anyway) and poor poor nanny who did nothing wrong but is just being persecuted anyway. When it's the employer being reported though it's a totally different story. FWIW it doesn't even matter because there are only very few states in which CPS records are made public.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 10:32     Subject: Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

Sorry, 9:46, but your paranoia is focussed on the wrong person. I don't post "on all the threads" and I can guarantee you couldn't correctly identify me where I do post. Dial back your drama. You're boring.

For the OP who seems to think CPS will just release information on investigations to the public, this is a handy resource I posted on the other thread.

https://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/laws_policies/statutes/confide.pdf

Nannies can't just call CPS and check on NFs.

Next time, OP, do your research.

Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 09:56     Subject: Re:Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You should definately be informed if any potential employers have been investigated for child abuse or neglect. Red flag for sure.


Excellent point.

Nannies get their references checked and their backgrounds checked prior to being offered jobs which makes sense.

Well employers should as well.

Nanny employers. Why? Because unlike a regular business corporation, the nanny will be working in a private home, with complete strangers and her safety and welfare can be at risk as well. She should always always make darn sure she has a background check and prior nanny and character references before agreeing to work in a private residence. If a family balks at this request and says it is unusual and fails to comply, then the nanny should walk out the door.

Nannies deserve to look out for themselves in the workplace just like anyone else.


Honestly, I don't understand the bolded concern if a nanny is a live out. The nanny is working when the scary parents are at work. They aren't in the same place at the same time. What is the threat to her safety and welfare? Or are you talking about live in nannies?

For me, that would make the difference as to how I would respond to a request for references from a nanny. If she is living out, I would happily give her contact information for a prior nanny. I would not care if she wanted to contact CPS or search for any other public information source to see if I am a secret criminal. But that is as far as I go. I would pass on a nanny who expected character references and a background check. She isn't taking care of me. She is taking care of my child. I need to know she is a qualified employee because I am leaving my child alone with her. It is my child's safety and welfare that is paramount and that is the reason I background check a nanny and require references. I just don't see how a nanny is at risk at any way.

Of course, in a live in situation, I can see a nanny asking for more extensive background checking.

Don't you know your husband is allowed home for a "visit" whenever he wants.
Just please STOP with your craziness on all the threads. You stick out like a sore thumb. Give it a rest.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 09:52     Subject: Re:Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

Anonymous wrote:
You should definately be informed if any potential employers have been investigated for child abuse or neglect. Red flag for sure.


Excellent point.

Nannies get their references checked and their backgrounds checked prior to being offered jobs which makes sense.

Well employers should as well.

Nanny employers. Why? Because unlike a regular business corporation, the nanny will be working in a private home, with complete strangers and her safety and welfare can be at risk as well. She should always always make darn sure she has a background check and prior nanny and character references before agreeing to work in a private residence. If a family balks at this request and says it is unusual and fails to comply, then the nanny should walk out the door.

Nannies deserve to look out for themselves in the workplace just like anyone else.


Honestly, I don't understand the bolded concern if a nanny is a live out. The nanny is working when the scary parents are at work. They aren't in the same place at the same time. What is the threat to her safety and welfare? Or are you talking about live in nannies?

For me, that would make the difference as to how I would respond to a request for references from a nanny. If she is living out, I would happily give her contact information for a prior nanny. I would not care if she wanted to contact CPS or search for any other public information source to see if I am a secret criminal. But that is as far as I go. I would pass on a nanny who expected character references and a background check. She isn't taking care of me. She is taking care of my child. I need to know she is a qualified employee because I am leaving my child alone with her. It is my child's safety and welfare that is paramount and that is the reason I background check a nanny and require references. I just don't see how a nanny is at risk at any way.

Of course, in a live in situation, I can see a nanny asking for more extensive background checking.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 09:24     Subject: Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

Anonymous wrote:http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/293059.page

Can't wait to see how hypocritical the nannies are going to be with this post now. And nannies wonder why people don't take our profession seriously.

Are you completely missing the entire point, or are you just a sneaky troll?
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 09:01     Subject: Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

http://www.dcurbanmom.com/nanny-forum/posts/list/293059.page

Can't wait to see how hypocritical the nannies are going to be with this post now. And nannies wonder why people don't take our profession seriously.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 08:59     Subject: Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

BUT BUT the nanny could have lied when reporting the family. THe family should SUE the nanny unless they were tried and convicted.

Or does that argument only work if a nanny has been reported to CPS?
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 08:58     Subject: Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

Anonymous wrote:You should definately be informed if any potential employers have been investigated for child abuse or neglect. Red flag for sure.


Nanny here. I agree with you. And I agree that potential employer's should check CPS records for nannies. Although it is amazing the difference in responses between the two posts about checking with CPS about any reports.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 07:59     Subject: Re:Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely. There are so many creepy MB/DB's who present as normal in the interview. Always check references, Nannies, and get a background check on them if possible.

Well, how many do you know? Thank God, I don't know any, yet. I'll have to start checking that registry. Maybe I've been naive.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 07:22     Subject: Re:Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

Absolutely. There are so many creepy MB/DB's who present as normal in the interview. Always check references, Nannies, and get a background check on them if possible.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 05:29     Subject: Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

Anonymous wrote:You should definately be informed if any potential employers have been investigated for child abuse or neglect. Red flag for sure.


Excellent point.

Nannies get their references checked and their backgrounds checked prior to being offered jobs which makes sense.

Well employers should as well.

Nanny employers. Why? Because unlike a regular business corporation, the nanny will be working in a private home, with complete strangers and her safety and welfare can be at risk as well. She should always always make darn sure she has a background check and prior nanny and character references before agreeing to work in a private residence. If a family balks at this request and says it is unusual and fails to comply, then the nanny should walk out the door.

Nannies deserve to look out for themselves in the workplace just like anyone else.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2014 00:42     Subject: Checking refs on MB and DB - Call Maryland Child Protective Services

You should definately be informed if any potential employers have been investigated for child abuse or neglect. Red flag for sure.