Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 22:49     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
Anonymous wrote:You nannies are so ridiculous. If this was the opposite situation and someone came on here saying they had reported their old bosses for criminal behavior, you'd all be applauding her and saying how terrible the family was and how she did the right thing. No one would question whether the nanny was just bitter about being let go for cause.

But God forbid someone say a nanny was bad.

Nannies on this site are an embarrassment to the profession.

signed, Nanny

P.S. clearly none of you mandated reporters understand how difficult it is for someone to be arrested and convicted off of one offense.


If the tables were turned and a nanny employer had their name reported as a criminal without being charged, tried or convicted, I would feel just the same way.
Nobody should be publicly named without having been charged and convicted of a crime.
It frightens me that so many of you are ok with this.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 21:54     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
You nannies are so ridiculous. If this was the opposite situation and someone came on here saying they had reported their old bosses for criminal behavior, you'd all be applauding her and saying how terrible the family was and how she did the right thing. No one would question whether the nanny was just bitter about being let go for cause.

But God forbid someone say a nanny was bad.

Nannies on this site are an embarrassment to the profession.

signed, Nanny

P.S. clearly none of you mandated reporters understand how difficult it is for someone to be arrested and convicted off of one offense.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 21:50     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
Anonymous wrote:I'm embarrassed of the people posting this site. The OP just sent everybody a safety reminder, and you are all on her back about how she unjustly fired a nanny? I am a nanny and if I ever did something unsafe I would expect to be fired. I'm in charge of children's lives. Shame on all of you for talking down to this woman. People like you are why horrible behavior goes unreported or why people don't want to get involved

If the firing was just, there'd be no shame in OP saying why. Why do you think she's hiding the facts? No one should protect the "privacy" of an abuser. Unless of course, there was no abuse.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 21:46     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
Anonymous wrote:I'm embarrassed of the people posting this site. The OP just sent everybody a safety reminder, and you are all on her back about how she unjustly fired a nanny? I am a nanny and if I ever did something unsafe I would expect to be fired. I'm in charge of children's lives. Shame on all of you for talking down to this woman. People like you are why horrible behavior goes unreported or why people don't want to get involved


Who's to say the witness didn't make it up?
Nobody is suggesting that neglectful or abusive behavior should go unreported.
It is horrible to publicly list someone as a child abuser without that person ever having been prosecuted or even charged with a crime.
I guarantee that if you were accused of something, you would want your day in court prior to being labelled a danger to children and blacklisted from your profession.
The way I'm understanding this is that someone witnessed OP's nanny do something dangerous with a child.
The person reported the nanny and now anyone who calls about her will be told she had a CPS report filed against her.
The nanny could have cut this woman off in traffic for all you know. You just don't know.
It's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that because I question the legality of this practice that I support and condone child abuse.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 21:10     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
I'm embarrassed of the people posting this site. The OP just sent everybody a safety reminder, and you are all on her back about how she unjustly fired a nanny? I am a nanny and if I ever did something unsafe I would expect to be fired. I'm in charge of children's lives. Shame on all of you for talking down to this woman. People like you are why horrible behavior goes unreported or why people don't want to get involved
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 19:59     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are considering hiring a nanny in Maryland or who lives in Maryland, please remember to call Maryland's Child Protective Services. They have a list of individuals who they have investigated for suspected child neglect and they will let you know if your applicant is on the list. This is especially important in the event that the individual's name does not appear in the Maryland Judiciary Case Search because records were expunged or charges were never filed by the police.

We recently had to fire our nanny for putting our child in an unsafe situation, and her name will now appear on CPS' list in the event she tries to find another position as a nanny.


I'm very, very interested in finding out what your nanny did to make you report her to CPS.
Any childcare provider who has pissed off a parent could be on it.
Completely unethical. I'm seriously contacting the ACLU.
This can't be legal.


How is that any of your business? Of course let's all assume the MB called CPS just to stick it to her nanny that she doesn't like. Because no nanny has ever done something to deserve investigation by CPS.


The reputation of this woman is ruined because someone made an accusation.
My son told his teachers that nobody is home to give him dinner. If the teachers called CPS to report this claim (which is absolutely false), my name could be added to some list of child absusers/neglecters.
If there is evidence of a crime-it will most likely be prosecuted. Otherwise, it is an unproven incident.
I'm pissed because people are publicly outed without having been found guilty in a court.
Did your nanny have previous reports filed with CPS, OP? Was this her first incident?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 19:36     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are considering hiring a nanny in Maryland or who lives in Maryland, please remember to call Maryland's Child Protective Services. They have a list of individuals who they have investigated for suspected child neglect and they will let you know if your applicant is on the list. This is especially important in the event that the individual's name does not appear in the Maryland Judiciary Case Search because records were expunged or charges were never filed by the police.

We recently had to fire our nanny for putting our child in an unsafe situation, and her name will now appear on CPS' list in the event she tries to find another position as a nanny.


I'm very, very interested in finding out what your nanny did to make you report her to CPS.
Any childcare provider who has pissed off a parent could be on it.
Completely unethical. I'm seriously contacting the ACLU.
This can't be legal.


How is that any of your business? Of course let's all assume the MB called CPS just to stick it to her nanny that she doesn't like. Because no nanny has ever done something to deserve investigation by CPS.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 19:01     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
Anonymous wrote:I don't think some of you know how CPS really works. It does not operate with the ideal setting of "someone calls CPS because nanny smacked charge so hard she fell over and broke her arm. There is only 1 witness to this (the one who called CPS). Nanny and child both lie about what happened. Cops believe the one witness, arrest nanny, and she's easily tried and convicted". Rather it is more like. enough claims against a person or severe harm to a child will warrant something more thorough than a simple investigation. I've lost count of how many children repeatedly show up in the ER with suspicion injuries and even classical abuse injuries. And every single time I report it. The only time a parent has ever been arrested after one report was when the child was brought to the ER in such a bad state that it was clear the father had abused and neglected the child over a long period of time.


To add, most prosecutors wouldn't even try someone who only had one CPS report unless it was a serious incident. Too difficult to win and they will wait until there are enough incidences where it is beyond a reasonable doubt that that person is an abuser or neglectful, etc.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 18:59     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
I don't think some of you know how CPS really works. It does not operate with the ideal setting of "someone calls CPS because nanny smacked charge so hard she fell over and broke her arm. There is only 1 witness to this (the one who called CPS). Nanny and child both lie about what happened. Cops believe the one witness, arrest nanny, and she's easily tried and convicted". Rather it is more like. enough claims against a person or severe harm to a child will warrant something more thorough than a simple investigation. I've lost count of how many children repeatedly show up in the ER with suspicion injuries and even classical abuse injuries. And every single time I report it. The only time a parent has ever been arrested after one report was when the child was brought to the ER in such a bad state that it was clear the father had abused and neglected the child over a long period of time.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 18:42     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
OP here. I did not call CPS myself - someone else did who witnessed her unsafe behavior. CPS conducts its own investigations and would have done so even had I not fired her. To respect everyone's privacy, I will not discuss the circumstances that led to her separation. The reason for my post was to remind prospective employers about CPS and the reference checks they can provide, which is another source of information.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 17:34     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
If she was charged AND convicted in a court, the public should absolutely know.
If someone made unfounded allegations against her and she was not charged-this is messed up.
Was your nanny charged and convicted?
If not, I hope she sues you for everything you own...including your fillings.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 17:26     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are considering hiring a nanny in Maryland or who lives in Maryland, please remember to call Maryland's Child Protective Services. They have a list of individuals who they have investigated for suspected child neglect and they will let you know if your applicant is on the list. This is especially important in the event that the individual's name does not appear in the Maryland Judiciary Case Search because records were expunged or charges were never filed by the police.

We recently had to fire our nanny for putting our child in an unsafe situation, and her name will now appear on CPS' list in the event she tries to find another position as a nanny.


I'm very, very interested in finding out what your nanny did to make you report her to CPS.
Any childcare provider who has pissed off a parent could be on it.
Completely unethical. I'm seriously contacting the ACLU.
This can't be legal.

Yep. We all know how pissed off a mom can get when the nanny quits at the wrong time (anytime). Nannies should stick it out until the parents no longer need her.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 17:18     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
Anonymous wrote:If you are considering hiring a nanny in Maryland or who lives in Maryland, please remember to call Maryland's Child Protective Services. They have a list of individuals who they have investigated for suspected child neglect and they will let you know if your applicant is on the list. This is especially important in the event that the individual's name does not appear in the Maryland Judiciary Case Search because records were expunged or charges were never filed by the police.

We recently had to fire our nanny for putting our child in an unsafe situation, and her name will now appear on CPS' list in the event she tries to find another position as a nanny.


I'm very, very interested in finding out what your nanny did to make you report her to CPS.
Any childcare provider who has pissed off a parent could be on it.
Completely unethical. I'm seriously contacting the ACLU.
This can't be legal.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 16:24     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
Interesting...

Do they keep names on record of everyone who's ever been investigated, even if the claims were found to be unsubstantiated? If so, are they able/willing to give detail when you call - i.e. "John Doe was investigated for possible neglect after teachers noticed his son's disheveled state but the home was found to be clean and safe and parental supervision appropriate"?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2014 16:18     Subject: Checking References -- Call Maryland Child Protective Services
If you are considering hiring a nanny in Maryland or who lives in Maryland, please remember to call Maryland's Child Protective Services. They have a list of individuals who they have investigated for suspected child neglect and they will let you know if your applicant is on the list. This is especially important in the event that the individual's name does not appear in the Maryland Judiciary Case Search because records were expunged or charges were never filed by the police.

We recently had to fire our nanny for putting our child in an unsafe situation, and her name will now appear on CPS' list in the event she tries to find another position as a nanny.