Anonymous
Post 03/13/2014 16:42     Subject: Long overnight work

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can't charge them for 8hrs (of sleeping time-if you sleep straight through) in a 24hr period. So charge them $18 for 16hrs a day, plus overtime for any hours over 40. If the child does wake up, you can charge your $18 for how every they are up.

If the kids don't wake up, and you work 14x24hr days=224hrs

40hrsx$18=$720 + 184hrsx$27=4968
=$5688 is the minimum legal rate you should be charging if no child wakes up.
If you want to discount your self and your work, go ahead. But don't disrespect yourself-the government is already discounting your service by not requiring you get paid for 8hrs of work a day!!!

If your nanny family can't afford it, they can't afford a nanny or to go away for 2 weeks.


There are plenty of nannies, myself included, who would charge less than $4968 or $5688. If a family does not want to pay that much, it doesn't mean they can't afford a nanny.


+1 $5688 seems extremely high. If that is what OP quotes her family, I'd bet the MB goes looking for other options. OP - if you'd rather have the job than not, I'd suggest that you get your hourly rate and OT for all the hours you are working (children are awake) and then propose some flat rate for each night you are sleeping there.


It doesn't seem that high for the two weeks even calculated the way you are saying:

If the kids are awake for 12 hours a day, then the total number of hours worked is 12*14 = 168. That would be 80 hours at normal rate (80*$18 = $1440) and 88 hours at overtime rate (88*$27 = $2376) and a flat rate of $75 per night (14*$75 = $1050) and you get a total of $4866.

But the earlier PP is not correct that the $5688 is the minimum legal rate that she can charge. The minimum legal rate is based on minimum wage, not the $18/hr wage the OP normally gets. And the DOL states that 8 hours can be deducted for sleeping time, but all other time should be paid as working time. So 80 hours at $7.25 ($580) plus 144 hours at $10.875 ($1566) is $2146 for the two weeks.

OP, I suggest you pick a rate somewhere between those two.


OP is an employee, with a contracted hourly wage. That wage is technically the "minimum". You can't just decide one paycheck that your nanny's rate is going to be minimum wage. It doesn't work that way. OP, if I were you, I'd ask for $3-$4k under the table, and a day or two of extra vacation when they return.
Anonymous
Post 03/13/2014 16:26     Subject: Long overnight work

OP, I'm an MB and we did this last Fall with our nanny. We were gone for 8 days - a full/typical work week for her plus some portion of two weekends.

What we worked out with her was that she got her regular weekly salary (obviously). Then she got her overtime rate for every hour the kids were awake for the M-F times beyond which she would normally have worked, and the weekend days that were extra. For every overnight she got $75.

So, this meant $600 in overnights, approximately 60 hours of overtime, and her regular salary. I don't remember all of the exact numbers but I believe that it meant close to $2000 in addition to her salary.

We also gave her some additional time off since this was an extremely long stretch to be solo with the kids. (Twin toddlers!) And we paid the overtime and overnight stuff off the books - which obviously is a personal decision but meant that the dollars were just a bit easier for us and better for her.
nannydebsays
Post 03/13/2014 16:03     Subject: Long overnight work

You need to charge enough to make you feel well rewarded for your time. If you WANT to do this, be sure you won't resent it afterwards.

Without knowing how many kids or their ages (or your location), I would look at a 24 hour rate somewhere between $250 (one kid, older, attends school so down time for you, sleeps through) and $450+ (multiple kids, younger, litttle or no school attendance, don't sleep through the night) and go from there. Start a bit high so you can negotiate down if needed.

Flat out minimum I would accept is minimum wage x 24 x 14, or $2436 for the entire time. And that's for one kid, or two kids who attend school at least half days.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2014 14:33     Subject: Long overnight work

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can't charge them for 8hrs (of sleeping time-if you sleep straight through) in a 24hr period. So charge them $18 for 16hrs a day, plus overtime for any hours over 40. If the child does wake up, you can charge your $18 for how every they are up.

If the kids don't wake up, and you work 14x24hr days=224hrs

40hrsx$18=$720 + 184hrsx$27=4968
=$5688 is the minimum legal rate you should be charging if no child wakes up.
If you want to discount your self and your work, go ahead. But don't disrespect yourself-the government is already discounting your service by not requiring you get paid for 8hrs of work a day!!!

If your nanny family can't afford it, they can't afford a nanny or to go away for 2 weeks.


There are plenty of nannies, myself included, who would charge less than $4968 or $5688. If a family does not want to pay that much, it doesn't mean they can't afford a nanny.


+1 $5688 seems extremely high. If that is what OP quotes her family, I'd bet the MB goes looking for other options. OP - if you'd rather have the job than not, I'd suggest that you get your hourly rate and OT for all the hours you are working (children are awake) and then propose some flat rate for each night you are sleeping there.


It doesn't seem that high for the two weeks even calculated the way you are saying:

If the kids are awake for 12 hours a day, then the total number of hours worked is 12*14 = 168. That would be 80 hours at normal rate (80*$18 = $1440) and 88 hours at overtime rate (88*$27 = $2376) and a flat rate of $75 per night (14*$75 = $1050) and you get a total of $4866.

But the earlier PP is not correct that the $5688 is the minimum legal rate that she can charge. The minimum legal rate is based on minimum wage, not the $18/hr wage the OP normally gets. And the DOL states that 8 hours can be deducted for sleeping time, but all other time should be paid as working time. So 80 hours at $7.25 ($580) plus 144 hours at $10.875 ($1566) is $2146 for the two weeks.

OP, I suggest you pick a rate somewhere between those two.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2014 13:53     Subject: Long overnight work

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can't charge them for 8hrs (of sleeping time-if you sleep straight through) in a 24hr period. So charge them $18 for 16hrs a day, plus overtime for any hours over 40. If the child does wake up, you can charge your $18 for how every they are up.

If the kids don't wake up, and you work 14x24hr days=224hrs

40hrsx$18=$720 + 184hrsx$27=4968
=$5688 is the minimum legal rate you should be charging if no child wakes up.
If you want to discount your self and your work, go ahead. But don't disrespect yourself-the government is already discounting your service by not requiring you get paid for 8hrs of work a day!!!

If your nanny family can't afford it, they can't afford a nanny or to go away for 2 weeks.


There are plenty of nannies, myself included, who would charge less than $4968 or $5688. If a family does not want to pay that much, it doesn't mean they can't afford a nanny.


+1 $5688 seems extremely high. If that is what OP quotes her family, I'd bet the MB goes looking for other options. OP - if you'd rather have the job than not, I'd suggest that you get your hourly rate and OT for all the hours you are working (children are awake) and then propose some flat rate for each night you are sleeping there.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2014 13:22     Subject: Long overnight work

Anonymous wrote:You can't charge them for 8hrs (of sleeping time-if you sleep straight through) in a 24hr period. So charge them $18 for 16hrs a day, plus overtime for any hours over 40. If the child does wake up, you can charge your $18 for how every they are up.

If the kids don't wake up, and you work 14x24hr days=224hrs

40hrsx$18=$720 + 184hrsx$27=4968
=$5688 is the minimum legal rate you should be charging if no child wakes up.
If you want to discount your self and your work, go ahead. But don't disrespect yourself-the government is already discounting your service by not requiring you get paid for 8hrs of work a day!!!

If your nanny family can't afford it, they can't afford a nanny or to go away for 2 weeks.


There are plenty of nannies, myself included, who would charge less than $4968 or $5688. If a family does not want to pay that much, it doesn't mean they can't afford a nanny.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2014 13:20     Subject: Long overnight work

I'm on day 4 of a weeklong 24/7 overnight nanny gig. MB has said baby sleeps thru the night for months, yet the kiddo wakes up crying every 90 minutes. Loud come help me shrieking. I asked mb last night and she said let him scream. I can't, it's hours she's talking about. So I'm awake all day and night and ready to pass out. Baby is 1, btw
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2014 09:12     Subject: Long overnight work

I've done this before and generally negotiate some type of flat rate plus additional vacation days
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2014 08:23     Subject: Long overnight work

Personally I would set one flat rate for each day you'll be there since there can be a lot of variation with kids over a 2 well period. If the kids are usually up 8AM - 8th and wake up at least once a night I would charge your hourly at 9 hours per day (so $162 per day) plus your over night fee ($75 per night). So you would basically make $237 for each 24 hour period.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2014 08:21     Subject: Long overnight work

You can't charge them for 8hrs (of sleeping time-if you sleep straight through) in a 24hr period. So charge them $18 for 16hrs a day, plus overtime for any hours over 40. If the child does wake up, you can charge your $18 for how every they are up.

If the kids don't wake up, and you work 14x24hr days=224hrs

40hrsx$18=$720 + 184hrsx$27=4968
=$5688 is the minimum legal rate you should be charging if no child wakes up.
If you want to discount your self and your work, go ahead. But don't disrespect yourself-the government is already discounting your service by not requiring you get paid for 8hrs of work a day!!!

If your nanny family can't afford it, they can't afford a nanny or to go away for 2 weeks.
Anonymous
Post 03/12/2014 02:36     Subject: Long overnight work

Question

I get a normal rate for overnights (flat rate for night sleeping hours/my hourly rate is any kid wakes up (usually rounded per 15mins)).

My nf has asked me to watch their kids while they go out of town for two weeks. That straight 24 hour care for 14 days.

Because it's such a long time should I decrease my rate in any way??

I want to be fair to them and also me because it is a lot of work.

Fyi my normal flat fee is $75/night and my hourly is 18/hr.

Thanks!!