I'd be actively taking care of them 7am to 830 pm (presuming they would then go to bed and stay asleep) but it sounds like they have no set bedtime, and the interviewer said one child wakes up at 4am at least once a week! The assistant said they have a nanny who is great with them...keeps them busy and takes them out to do all kinds of fun stuff but she doesn't want to spend the nights which is why they want to replace her. From what I've seen they should give her a raise and hire a night nanny.

So sad when rich selfish parents do that shit to their own children. So sad. Maybe their parents abused them?

Wow, that's crazy low! Would you have been only on active duty for 10-12 hours but "on-call" but mostly off duty the rest of the 24 in case dad or other household staff needed help? That's the only way I can imagine them expecting to find some one to take that for $500-600/week. Even then, that's like $14/hr for 3 kids - not very impressive.

Ha, I will. What a letdown. The dad is literally a millionaire too. The other crazy thing is all three kids would be home day along with the father but I'd be expected to keep them away from dad even tho he is just in the next room.

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for all the input! Unfortunately they only were willing to pay $500 (3 day week) and $600 for the 4 day week. And that's for all day, spending the nights, cooking all of kids meals, and taking kids to moms on last morning of the work week when technically it would be my day off! No thanks!

They must be absolutely out of their minds.
Tell us when you see their job ad again in 2 months.

Thanks for all the input! Unfortunately they only were willing to pay $500 (3 day week) and $600 for the 4 day week. And that's for all day, spending the nights, cooking all of kids meals, and taking kids to moms on last morning of the work week when technically it would be my day off! No thanks!

Anonymous wrote:PP- when you are a 24hr nanny, you are working and responsible for the children- even while sleeping hence the 24hr title. You are on call. She can't use her "sleeping" hours to leave the home, so you need to pay her for it. Unless she is off duty and not needed to be alert during that time.She is not a live-in, so if she works over 40hrs she needs to be paid overtime. If she can leave during the "sleeping" hours, or does not have to be on duty (can switch off monitor, does not need to attend to crying or sick children, or be there in case of an emergency) you only legally have to pay her for 16 out of the 24hrs. But if you need her 24hrs a day, you legally have to pay for it. Make sure her hourly rate is at least minimum wage. For working 4x24hrs the minimum you can pay per a day is $899 or $225 a day. That is following the legal minimum wage.

This is largely inaccurate and very misleading to the OP. The poster you're responding to clearly stated the need to calculate overtime, ascertain whether there would be any overnight responsibilities, etc... But it is not true that you have to pay full hourly rates for periods of time when sleeping is allowed and provided. And minimum wage is absurd. I would not expect any nanny to work a job like this for minimum wage. Of course, I don't think that's an appropriate expectation for any nanny position.

Your advice is too flawed to be useful to the OP.

Anonymous wrote:PP- when you are a 24hr nanny, you are working and responsible for the children- even while sleeping hence the 24hr title. You are on call. She can't use her "sleeping" hours to leave the home, so you need to pay her for it. Unless she is off duty and not needed to be alert during that time.She is not a live-in, so if she works over 40hrs she needs to be paid overtime. If she can leave during the "sleeping" hours, or does not have to be on duty (can switch off monitor, does not need to attend to crying or sick children, or be there in case of an emergency) you only legally have to pay her for 16 out of the 24hrs. But if you need her 24hrs a day, you legally have to pay for it. Make sure her hourly rate is at least minimum wage. For working 4x24hrs the minimum you can pay per a day is $899 or $225 a day. That is following the legal minimum wage.

That is not correct on the sleeping time.

You can legally not pay for 8 hours of a 24 shift if there is a reasonable expectation of sleep, a place to sleep, and you actually can sleep. So if the kids generally sleep through the night, your hourly rate could reflect only 16 hours of pay.

Honestly, if it were me, that's how I would structure it. That way, if the kids do wake up, you get a "bonus" for having to work at night. (Assuming you are happy with the general rate for 16 hours/day)

No one is going to do it for minimum wage!

PP- when you are a 24hr nanny, you are working and responsible for the children- even while sleeping hence the 24hr title. You are on call. She can't use her "sleeping" hours to leave the home, so you need to pay her for it. Unless she is off duty and not needed to be alert during that time.She is not a live-in, so if she works over 40hrs she needs to be paid overtime. If she can leave during the "sleeping" hours, or does not have to be on duty (can switch off monitor, does not need to attend to crying or sick children, or be there in case of an emergency) you only legally have to pay her for 16 out of the 24hrs. But if you need her 24hrs a day, you legally have to pay for it. Make sure her hourly rate is at least minimum wage. For working 4x24hrs the minimum you can pay per a day is $899 or $225 a day. That is following the legal minimum wage.

I'm an MB. I don't really know how one figures out these kinds of rates, but here is what would make sense to me.

Have an idea of what you think your base hourly rate should be for 3 kids (and twin toddlers!). Figure out a rate for overnights (assuming all kids sleep through the night) and find out exactly which hours the parents would want you on-duty. Look at potential overtime amounts.

Have all of those numbers ready and that gives you a starting point for negotiating. (They, I would hope, would have some idea of what they can offer also - but if you go in w/ those kinds of figures it will help support a productive negotiation.)

For example, your base hourly rate might be (depending on the market where you are, your experience level, scope of responsibilities, etc...) $15-25, which would mean overtime rates of $22.50-$37.50. An overnight (sleeping, not working) rate might be $75-125 per night.

If you worked 4 days, with 16 hours on duty per day and overnight sleeping that could be 40 hours at your base rate, 24 hours of overtime, and 4 nights of overnight. Which will probably be a bigger number than they're prepared for. So maybe you would negotiate based on a flat amount of a salary that gives you an average hourly rate or something.

I think there could be huge variations in how these situations are handled, and what parent's expectations and perceptions are.

Good luck!

24hr Nannies typically make 300-600 a 24hr shift.

What would you charge for a job that is basically live in 3 or 4 days a week (alternating weekly). Twin two year Olds and a four year old. I have an interview tomorrow but have no idea what to charge. I've only worked as a live out nanny for about two years and always for one child. The parent told me they have household help but no nanny and seem interested in me. Thanks!