I agree with a week's pay and don't have her come back

Anonymous wrote:Oh shut up! You prattle on like a crazy person on every freakin thread. I don't even think you're a troll. I think you really are just that crazy.

Didn't your parents teach you the art of ignoring whoever you don't like? Or is it just another bad day for you? As long as you feel better, you don't have to shut up. Carry on.

Oh shut up! You prattle on like a crazy person on every freakin thread. I don't even think you're a troll. I think you really are just that crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:Generally when the employer has to give two week's notice to the employee they say "Today is June 1st. Your last day is June 15th. But we're going to just give you a check today for the salary you would earn through June 15th, but you don't actually have to work past today. Right now. Please hand me your keys and if you'd like, say goodbye to the children." Then you go change the alarm codes. If she can not produce keys in front of you, change the locks (we have it in our contract that if the nanny can not produce keys when we ask for them she will have to pay the locksmith).

It's utterly horrifying that any parent can leave their child with such a person. How do you sleep at night? Or are you on welfare and have no options?

I agree w/ the poster you're slamming. He/she is absolutely right. Fire the person, hand them a check for all appropriate severance and wish them well. If they can't hand you the keys change your locks and passcodes or anything else that might have been shared re household security.

I wouldn't want to work somewhere after being fired, and I wouldn't want to have someone around who I had just fired.

OP - pay out what you think is appropriate, what you can afford, and what you will feel good about 6 months from now.

Good luck.

Example of a parent who pays better attention to her diamonds, than to her children. Disgusting. People like her don't deserve to have children. Oh well.

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Anonymous wrote:Generally when the employer has to give two week's notice to the employee they say "Today is June 1st. Your last day is June 15th. But we're going to just give you a check today for the salary you would earn through June 15th, but you don't actually have to work past today. Right now. Please hand me your keys and if you'd like, say goodbye to the children." Then you go change the alarm codes. If she can not produce keys in front of you, change the locks (we have it in our contract that if the nanny can not produce keys when we ask for them she will have to pay the locksmith).

It's utterly horrifying that any parent can leave their child with such a person. How do you sleep at night? Or are you on welfare and have no options?

I agree w/ the poster you're slamming. He/she is absolutely right. Fire the person, hand them a check for all appropriate severance and wish them well. If they can't hand you the keys change your locks and passcodes or anything else that might have been shared re household security.

I wouldn't want to work somewhere after being fired, and I wouldn't want to have someone around who I had just fired.

OP - pay out what you think is appropriate, what you can afford, and what you will feel good about 6 months from now.

Good luck.

Anonymous wrote:Generally when the employer has to give two week's notice to the employee they say "Today is June 1st. Your last day is June 15th. But we're going to just give you a check today for the salary you would earn through June 15th, but you don't actually have to work past today. Right now. Please hand me your keys and if you'd like, say goodbye to the children." Then you go change the alarm codes. If she can not produce keys in front of you, change the locks (we have it in our contract that if the nanny can not produce keys when we ask for them she will have to pay the locksmith).

It's utterly horrifying that any parent can leave their child with such a person. How do you sleep at night? Or are you on welfare and have no options?

Pay her for 2 weeks but don't have her come back. She should appreciate that. I'd rather be fired and not have to come back.

Generally when the employer has to give two week's notice to the employee they say "Today is June 1st. Your last day is June 15th. But we're going to just give you a check today for the salary you would earn through June 15th, but you don't actually have to work past today. Right now. Please hand me your keys and if you'd like, say goodbye to the children." Then you go change the alarm codes. If she can not produce keys in front of you, change the locks (we have it in our contract that if the nanny can not produce keys when we ask for them she will have to pay the locksmith).

I would let her go and offer a week pay. She has only been with you six months and missed too many day. Move on.

OP here - thanks for all the insight! I was cringing a little thinking I might be blasted

Thinking on to notice period, etc. If we make a change, do we give notice? Or do we just pay out two weeks severance with no notice. Our contract does not specify any severance. I can't shake the feeling that I don't want primary nanny there once with our kids once we essentially fire her. Clearly, I don't rationally think she will do anything to them - or else she wouldn't be with them now. It just seems strange to let her go and then have her work more days.

honestly, I wouldn't have either of them full time. find a baby who's great with both!

I also think it's time to let your nanny go. As a nanny myself, I hate to hear of other nannies that take advantage of their PTO because many nannies don't get that.

I was the back up nanny in this same situation two and a half years ago. My bosses had a full time nanny and I was their occasional babysitter. Their nanny used all her PTO (2.5 weeks) and was requesting more days off because her husband had the flu and other ridiculous reasons. They approached me about coming to work with then fulltime. They had already had a sit down talk with their nanny about reliability and nothing was changing. I was already unhappy with my nanny position at the time so we decided to go for it. They fired their nanny (with two weeks severance) and I gave my two weeks at my old job. Since then, none of is have been happier!

Anonymous wrote:You tell the backup nanny that you would LIKE to consider her for a full-time position, but are hesitating because of the following with the baby. Then you lay out three or four specific things about how she interacts with the baby that you want changed, and you explain what you want them changed TO. And then you see if those change.

Sometimes the younger people are more hungry and have more drive. I'd give the backup one or two weeks to see if she makes changes, and then get rid of the old nanny as soon as the backup can start fulltime.

Mb here - I think this poster gave excellent advice. I agree that it's time to replace your primary nanny and your back-up nanny should be given a chance. A clear, direct conversation about your concerns, what you really value about her work, and what would be different if she became the full-time nanny are appropriate before you finalize any decisions.

You tell the backup nanny that you would LIKE to consider her for a full-time position, but are hesitating because of the following with the baby. Then you lay out three or four specific things about how she interacts with the baby that you want changed, and you explain what you want them changed TO. And then you see if those change.

Sometimes the younger people are more hungry and have more drive. I'd give the backup one or two weeks to see if she makes changes, and then get rid of the old nanny as soon as the backup can start fulltime.

We hired a nanny in August of this year. She has had several issues with reliabilty (relating to sick time/snow days - she will not drive if there is a threat of snow even if it is not currently snowing). She has been out of work for 13 days since her start date. She does have PTO, but only 3 out of 13 were scheduled. Both my husband and I have jobs that rarely close with the weather and we cannot work from home easily.

She got into a fender bender with my kids in the car a month ago - insurance company ruled her fault. This is not something I would hold against her and did not require that she pay any part of the deductible - but it does add together with all the other things.

Additionally, while she is great with our baby, I am afraid that she is not at all connecting with my preschooler. The preschooler is in 3 half days of preschool currently, but will spend the upcoming summer with the nanny and then start school in the fall.

We have started using a back up nanny for the time that she is out (and paying BOTH of them for the day). She is great with the preschooler and okay with the baby from what I can tell. The backup nanny has expressed an interest in coming on full time with us as she is currently in school at night and working several part time jobs. We like her, but she is younger than I would have chosen for the baby and we have really tried to be fair with our current nanny in case her issues have really been a string of bad luck.

At what point do we give up and make a change? How much do we cater to what I think is best for the baby vs what is best for the preschooler? We also have a school aged child who is rarely ever there but when he is the backup nanny is better for him as well.