Anonymous
Post 12/18/2013 07:41     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

It's called the
"MB Credo".
MB here means mom bitch.
Please don't be one of them.
Thank you.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2013 07:38     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

Well said, 7:07.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2013 07:07     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And next time confirm in writing from the outset. It is not received wel to fundamentally change the terms if the job just a few months in.

Except of course when you do it, because you were smart enough to demand a "flexible" nanny.
Lol.


Right? The double standards for MBs vs. Nannies are INSANE.

Nanny can't be late, but MB can because nannies should be flexible.
Nanny can't renegotiate, but MB can because nannies should be flexible.
Nanny can quit for a better job because she made a commitment, but MB can fire nanny for whatever she damn well pleases, commitments, contracts, and children be damned.
Nanny has moral obligations to her NF, but MB doesn't because nanny is just an employee.
Nanny must be a yoga expert for all the flexibility her job demands, but she should never ever expect anything beyond her contract, and for some MBs, even asking might get you fired.

Absolutely insane.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2013 06:18     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

Anonymous wrote:And next time confirm in writing from the outset. It is not received wel to fundamentally change the terms if the job just a few months in.

Except of course when you do it, because you were smart enough to demand a "flexible" nanny.
Lol.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2013 06:16     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

6:07, you missed that fact that the nanny already has a suitable job lined-up for January.

When you're good, it's relatively easy to get attractive job offers.

The stingy MB is unlikely to be so happy with her next nanny.



Anonymous
Post 12/18/2013 06:12     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

And next time confirm in writing from the outset. It is not received wel to fundamentally change the terms if the job just a few months in.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2013 06:07     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

Anonymous wrote:OP here. mb refused to guarantee my hours/pay. I did compromise by offering to bank hours. She just wanted me to drop it and I think I'm going to quit. I am paid a high rate and maybe my mb thinks this in an offset for the fact that I don't get benefits. I just don't want to worry about snow days, sick etc because this would take a big hit in terms of my monthly income. My mb says that they are very happy with me and want to use me long term. I'm just confused why she can't agree to guaranteed hours. It just doesn't make sense to me to have unpaid time off be a random thing. I can't plan my budget like this. Thanks for all of your feedback. I am grateful that a NF in the past has agreed to hire me in Jan and offer the PTO



OP, I'm sure your high rate is relevant here. It is typical for a job with less security to pay a higher hourly rate. You could offer to take a pay cut to offset the guaranteed hours, but that only makes sense if your really looking for income stability rather than extra time off. Of course, before you quit, it would be wise to make sure that you can find another job with guaranteed hours at something close to whatever rate you are currently getting.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2013 13:59     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

Good luck OP. If they truly wanted to keep you, they'd be more willing to work with you on the issue. Negotiate up front this time, and don't be afraid to ask for what you need, no matter how many MBs on here tell you its "rare" or whatever. You need what you need.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2013 13:48     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

yes, you must demand what you need. don't be content to just survive. maybe you want to have savings!!
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2013 13:22     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

Bummer OP but sounds like you will be fine with the other job. Ask for what you need.
Anonymous
Post 12/16/2013 11:42     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

OP here. mb refused to guarantee my hours/pay. I did compromise by offering to bank hours. She just wanted me to drop it and I think I'm going to quit. I am paid a high rate and maybe my mb thinks this in an offset for the fact that I don't get benefits. I just don't want to worry about snow days, sick etc because this would take a big hit in terms of my monthly income. My mb says that they are very happy with me and want to use me long term. I'm just confused why she can't agree to guaranteed hours. It just doesn't make sense to me to have unpaid time off be a random thing. I can't plan my budget like this. Thanks for all of your feedback. I am grateful that a NF in the past has agreed to hire me in Jan and offer the PTO

Anonymous
Post 12/15/2013 11:59     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

For me, as a mb, it would also depend on your schedule. If you work, for example, three hours daily, I could see agreeing to guaranteed hours. If you work 8 hours on Monday and 8 on Wednesday, we'd have to do some compromise with guaranteed hours and shifting hours, as there are so many Monday holidays.

If you offer to shift hours in some reasonable, predictable way ( Monday holiday hours are shifted to Tuesdays or Saturday night sitting in the same week) it will go a long way to looking like you want to preserve your income, not just get a lot of extra vacation.

Personally, we have a sitter/housekeeper who comes in Tuesday and Thursdays. Her hours are guaranteed, plus she gets a paid day off in the week of Christmas and thanksgiving (in addition to 4 paid days off of her choice) as it never made sense to me to have paid holiday time be a random occurrence.
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2013 11:47     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

The fact that something isn't "typical" means nothing. Ask for what you need. That's the only way to find the right fit. However its in bad form to change the terms of a job after accepting. You can ask, OP, but understand that they have every right to refuse, just as you would if they attempted to change your duties. You can then decide to stay and deal, or leave and do a better job negotiating the contract you really want. Good luck, OP!
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2013 11:31     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

Do you have a contract? This should have been discussed and agreed upon before excepting the position. Also it's generally rare for pt employees
Anonymous
Post 12/15/2013 10:25     Subject: if you asked for guaranteed pay several months after starting and you work part-time...

Did your mb/db agree? Do you get paid for holidays like MLK day, memorial day when you do not work?

Do they pay you for other days during winter break and or/spring break, when you do not work?

I sent an email to my mb/db several days ago asking for this, but I haven't heard from them yet. I have been with them for about 5 months and I did mention guaranteed hours in the interview. This benefit is a huge incentive for me because I rely on this income to meet financial obligations. I don't simply use this income as spending money like some of my other college friends who babysit/nanny. I know the family wants to have consistent care over the long haul and this incentive would be a HUGE help. They have talked about finding a babysitter who will stay for years. I was so nervous to ask for this though!