Anonymous
11/27/2013 14:05
Subject: Re:Paycut for more hours?
They aren't taking advantage of you, they are giving you the right of first refusal. The family needs more hours and is aware that they would be paying substantially over market if they simply extended your hours at the same rate. They are offering a new position at a competitive rate that will attract many candidates but they are giving you the opportunity to accept or decline because they are happy with your performance.
Its natural for you to be disappointed that a good thing is coming to an end but that's how it goes with nanny positions. Its up to you to decide whether you want to keep this job at the lower rate and higher hours or search for a different position.
+100.
This is all true. If you'd rather earn your present rate and work PT, or have two higher rate PT jobs, then just say no and move on, OP
Anonymous
11/27/2013 13:26
Subject: Paycut for more hours?
It know, not "no". They are not interchangeable, and its difficult to take anything you say seriously. You've done it in multiple posts now.
Anonymous
11/27/2013 13:23
Subject: Paycut for more hours?
Anonymous wrote:It is very typical in the Nanny Market the more you work, the less you get paid hourly. Nannies rates get discounted. It is just the way it is. Like in other posts you read about the 24 Hour Nanny earning $11 per hour for 100+ hrs, when a typical normal rate in her NYC is $20-30 an hr. That's why it's "acceptable" to pay a flat rate overnight ($50-75), instead of paying overtime hours. No Nanny Employer is going to pay excellent rates for long hours, it isn't fashionable.
Very little nannies make over $25/hr. That's just crazy over inflating. I've met many many nannies and I don't no any who make that much.
Anonymous
11/27/2013 08:20
Subject: Paycut for more hours?
Anonymous wrote:It is very typical in the Nanny Market the more you work, the less you get paid hourly. Nannies rates get discounted. It is just the way it is. Like in other posts you read about the 24 Hour Nanny earning $11 per hour for 100+ hrs, when a typical normal rate in her NYC is $20-30 an hr. That's why it's "acceptable" to pay a flat rate overnight ($50-75), instead of paying overtime hours. No Nanny Employer is going to pay excellent rates for long hours, it isn't fashionable.
That nanny was being riped off and didn't have a backbone to speak up and fight for what she wants. Personally, I never drop my rate. I may have less options but I still manage to find a family willing to pay my rate without much difficulty. I would rather work two part time jobs at my rate than reduce it to work with one family offering less. The only thing that would make me consider taking a lower rate is if the benefits were substantial.
OP, are they offering healthcare, dental, paid vacations, more sick leave if you become a full time employee? What is the pay difference your looking at?
Anonymous
11/27/2013 08:17
Subject: Re:Paycut for more hours?
Anonymous wrote:They aren't taking advantage of you, they are giving you the right of first refusal. The family needs more hours and is aware that they would be paying substantially over market if they simply extended your hours at the same rate. They are offering a new position at a competitive rate that will attract many candidates but they are giving you the opportunity to accept or decline because they are happy with your performance.
Its natural for you to be disappointed that a good thing is coming to an end but that's how it goes with nanny positions. Its up to you to decide whether you want to keep this job at the lower rate and higher hours or search for a different position.
This. You admit that they initially offered you a higher hourly rate because you were part time. Their needs have changed, they now need full-time. The obviously like you and would like to keep you, so they are offering you a new hourly rate based on full-time work that would be comparable to what they would offer a new person for the work. It's not taking advantage of you. It's offering you a new job based on their new needs. If you don't want the new job, just don't take it.
Anonymous
11/27/2013 08:02
Subject: Re:Paycut for more hours?
They aren't taking advantage of you, they are giving you the right of first refusal. The family needs more hours and is aware that they would be paying substantially over market if they simply extended your hours at the same rate. They are offering a new position at a competitive rate that will attract many candidates but they are giving you the opportunity to accept or decline because they are happy with your performance.
Its natural for you to be disappointed that a good thing is coming to an end but that's how it goes with nanny positions. Its up to you to decide whether you want to keep this job at the lower rate and higher hours or search for a different position.
Its natural for you to be disappointed that a good thing is coming to an end but that's how it goes with nanny positions. Its up to you to decide whether you want to keep this job at the lower rate and higher hours or search for a different position.
Anonymous
11/27/2013 07:50
Subject: Paycut for more hours?
As you said, the hourly rate for part time positions is generally higher than for full time positions. If the family now needs full time help, and you are earning above market for full time hours, you may find yourself out of a job if you aren't willing to work with them on this.
Anonymous
11/27/2013 07:22
Subject: Paycut for more hours?
It is very typical in the Nanny Market the more you work, the less you get paid hourly. Nannies rates get discounted. It is just the way it is. Like in other posts you read about the 24 Hour Nanny earning $11 per hour for 100+ hrs, when a typical normal rate in her NYC is $20-30 an hr. That's why it's "acceptable" to pay a flat rate overnight ($50-75), instead of paying overtime hours. No Nanny Employer is going to pay excellent rates for long hours, it isn't fashionable.
Anonymous
11/27/2013 03:20
Subject: Paycut for more hours?
No way. There's no benefit for you
Anonymous
11/27/2013 02:15
Subject: Paycut for more hours?
Anonymous wrote:Big difference between a pay cut and a decrease in your hourly wage. Look at the following numbers:
30 hours * $20 = $600
40 hours * $18 = $720
50 hours * $16 (40 hrs @ $16 and 10 hrs @ $24) = $880
Not saying those are your figures or the figures being offered. But if you're after more stable/full time hours, it will almost certainly be a pay increase when you look at the bottom line.
Would you really work an additional 20 hours, 10 of which is overtime for an additional $280? Take a $4 per hour pay cut and basically making half your current salary for the additional hours worked?
OP, depending on your situation, if you are significantly above market for your experience and need the extra income, consider it. But don't hack your rates if you do.
Anonymous
11/26/2013 22:08
Subject: Paycut for more hours?
Big difference between a pay cut and a decrease in your hourly wage. Look at the following numbers:
30 hours * $20 = $600
40 hours * $18 = $720
50 hours * $16 (40 hrs @ $16 and 10 hrs @ $24) = $880
Not saying those are your figures or the figures being offered. But if you're after more stable/full time hours, it will almost certainly be a pay increase when you look at the bottom line.
30 hours * $20 = $600
40 hours * $18 = $720
50 hours * $16 (40 hrs @ $16 and 10 hrs @ $24) = $880
Not saying those are your figures or the figures being offered. But if you're after more stable/full time hours, it will almost certainly be a pay increase when you look at the bottom line.
Anonymous
11/26/2013 21:51
Subject: Paycut for more hours?
Is there a benefit that you don't currently have that you'd like? I *might* consider the pay cut for more hours, so long as it was worth it financially (don't work an extra 10-20 hours for little more than you currently make!), and I was getting something out of the deal. Since you're part time consider negotiating guaranteed hours, more vacation, sick time, or holidays, a schedule that you like if they can make it happen (40 hours over 4 days with Fridays off), etc.
Anonymous
11/26/2013 21:47
Subject: Paycut for more hours?
Anonymous wrote:I have been at my position for over a year. I make above average, and one of many factors in giving my rate to take the position was bc I only work 30 hours. Now they want to possibly increase my hours to 40 or even 50, but want me to take an hourly cut to do so. Benefits are good and I am overall happy at this position. I was surprised by this idea and am running some numbers, but wanted others to chime in. My first instinct is hell no, but I also understand that positions not offering full time offer a higher pay. Thoughts?
I think it depends on the pay cut. My instinct is to say no, don't take any pay cut but on the other hand if you are still going to be making significantly more overall (and getting OT for the hours over 40) AND you like the family and would enjoy staying with them then I'd consider it. It also depends on how good your rate will still be after the pay cut. If you look for another job would you be able to get a higher rate or is the new rate they are offering still a good rate?
I understand the principle behind not wanting to take a pay cut, it seems ridiculous but also don't shoot yourself in the foot if it's still a good offer with a family you otherwise like.
Anonymous
11/26/2013 21:40
Subject: Paycut for more hours?
Your initial instinct it right. They are trying to take advantage and you know it.
Anonymous
11/26/2013 21:38
Subject: Paycut for more hours?
I have been at my position for over a year. I make above average, and one of many factors in giving my rate to take the position was bc I only work 30 hours. Now they want to possibly increase my hours to 40 or even 50, but want me to take an hourly cut to do so. Benefits are good and I am overall happy at this position. I was surprised by this idea and am running some numbers, but wanted others to chime in. My first instinct is hell no, but I also understand that positions not offering full time offer a higher pay. Thoughts?