Totally agree with 8;54 re; gypped.

Agree that if you have a min combined rate you will not go below then tell both families that combined rate and let them sort out how to split it. I think a $5 increase is a lot but if you know you could easily replace the job then you have a stronger hand. I also think it is reasonable for the 2nd family to expect a bit of a discount given less attention for their kid

Agree with this. Determine how much total you would need to take the harder job, and then let them figure out the division.

Totally agree with 8;54 re; gypped.

Agree that if you have a min combined rate you will not go below then tell both families that combined rate and let them sort out how to split it. I think a $5 increase is a lot but if you know you could easily replace the job then you have a stronger hand. I also think it is reasonable for the 2nd family to expect a bit of a discount given less attention for their kid b

off topic but "gypped" obvious has root in the word "gypsy" but honestly, is anyone going around purposely trying to insult Romani people? No, I think the word has evolved to just mean cheated, scammed etc. regardless of the ethnicity of the scammer.

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Anonymous wrote:I would present your total rate to them as you have here, and leave it up to them to decide how to split it up fairly. Like PP mentioned, there is a strong chance that they won't be able to meet that rate, but from your post it sounds like you're already prepared for that possibility.

I agree with this.

I also agree with this (although having lived in Boston until a year ago, I think it is very possible they'll be willing to meet your rate).

And please don't feel bad - many people don't know that "gypped" is an ethnic slur. Now you do!

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Anonymous wrote:(1) "gypped" is an ethnic slur. Don't use it or you sound either ignorant or intentionally awful.

(2) if you are charging $10 to each family now, and planning to increase to $15 for the one family's second child, plan to look for a new job.

I've never knew gypped was an ethic slur. I always knew it as meaning cheated or swindled. Guess I'm ignorant to the multiple ethic slurs out there. Sorry if I offended anyone, wasn't my intention.

NP here. OP, I grew up in the Boston area and heard the term "gyped" all the time too and never knew it was a racial slur.

I know, everyone native to Boston says it. I looked it up after the pp commented, most dictionaries don't mention the racial/ethnic connotation but I guess it refers to gypsies. It's actually quite funny because I've basically been insulting my own ancestry all these years without ever realizing. One side of my family can be traced back to the gypsies that lived between the border of France and Spain. Maybe because gypsies aren't heard of much in the US unlike Europe, it never clicked with me. I learn something new everyday.

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Anonymous wrote:(1) "gypped" is an ethnic slur. Don't use it or you sound either ignorant or intentionally awful.

(2) if you are charging $10 to each family now, and planning to increase to $15 for the one family's second child, plan to look for a new job.

I've never knew gypped was an ethic slur. I always knew it as meaning cheated or swindled. Guess I'm ignorant to the multiple ethic slurs out there. Sorry if I offended anyone, wasn't my intention.

NP here. OP, I grew up in the Boston area and heard the term "gyped" all the time too and never knew it was a racial slur.

Most families are not going to give you a $5 an hour raise for the birth of a child. Those who do are insane.

I've never been part of a nanny share so can't really speak to that, but if you have a good situation going, I would think it was perfectly fair to pay more for my 2 children than another family would for their one child. It seems a bit silly to reduce the rate for the family with 1 kid based on the potentially decreased attention since there's always the potential for one kid to be getting more attention than another based on temperament, nap schedules, etc.

I wish boston had a forum like this, DC is so lucky.
I guess I'm more concerned about approaching the second family since I wasn't going to drop their rate and wanted a justifiable reason why not.

Here are average boston rates:
(I've researched daycare)

One child-$15-20
Two children- $17-20
Nanny share (2kids)- $18-22
Home daycare- $200-350 per child a week
Center- 400-500 per child a week

I should add that the rates for nannies are pretty steady for even non native English speakers who can't drive. Very few of them make less than $15. The higher end is what nannies with over 5yrs experience, college education and amazing references receive. I fall somewhere in between with 8yrs full time experience, excellent references, an almost completed BA in early intervention plus extra certifications in other areas like children's yoga, CNA

I am fully prepared to help the family search for a new nanny or daycare if they can't afford my rate but I think my rate is in between a center and nanny for two, probably the best option compared to a home daycare. I won't be opposed to cutting hours drastically either if they could manage it.

Anonymous wrote:I would present your total rate to them as you have here, and leave it up to them to decide how to split it up fairly. Like PP mentioned, there is a strong chance that they won't be able to meet that rate, but from your post it sounds like you're already prepared for that possibility.

I agree with this.

I'm in a similar situation OP. This is really hard, and I'm sorry I have no advice. It doesn't make financial sense for anyone. I don't want to do this very difficult job for less than $24/hour and that wouldn't save anyone any money....I guess the question for them is do they just want someone to do the job, or do they ME to do the job. Good luck and I hope things work out!

I would present your total rate to them as you have here, and leave it up to them to decide how to split it up fairly. Like PP mentioned, there is a strong chance that they won't be able to meet that rate, but from your post it sounds like you're already prepared for that possibility.

Anonymous wrote:(1) "gypped" is an ethnic slur. Don't use it or you sound either ignorant or intentionally awful.

(2) if you are charging $10 to each family now, and planning to increase to $15 for the one family's second child, plan to look for a new job.

I've never knew gypped was an ethic slur. I always knew it as meaning cheated or swindled. Guess I'm ignorant to the multiple ethic slurs out there. Sorry if I offended anyone, wasn't my intention.

(1) "gypped" is an ethnic slur. Don't use it or you sound either ignorant or intentionally awful.

(2) if you are charging $10 to each family now, and planning to increase to $15 for the one family's second child, plan to look for a new job.

I was just informed today that one of my employers is officially pregnant with number 2. We are in a nannyshare and have been for the past 1 1/2 years. Both families would love to keep the nanny share going for another year or longer. I have to sit down with family one soon to discuss maternity leave, vacations and a pay increase for the third child. I'm having a difficult time figuring out how much I should increase the pay by. Currently I make $20 per hour 50+ hours a week with two weeks vacation my choice and one bonus week around Xmas. I also have guaranteed hours and all paid holidays off. I was considering charging family one $15 for both children and family two the same rate of $10. Than I was wondering if family two would feel gypped since their child will be sharing my attention with a third baby at no reduced rate. I should mention I live in Boston so my rate is average at the moment and benefits are common. I love the families but am not willing to work for less than $25 for three children under 3 ( 2 1/2yr old, 2 yr old and 2 month old) and I can easily find another job similar to what I have now with less of a commute. I just want the arrangement to be beneficial to everyone and would like to stay with them as long as possible. I would love some advice on how to handle this because I want to give the families time to find alternative childcare if they can't afford my pay increase.

By the way none of the children will be going to preschool until age three and only half days 2-3times a week when they do.