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You do understand what average means right? There are people who got more of a raise and people who got less, and even some who got no raise at all. Since the economy tanked, LOTS more people are getting no or very little increase in their salary. No one is making this up to be unfair to you. How do you expect your MB/DB to raise your salary each year when theirs hasn't changed for the last 4?

So you're saying the nanny's salary should be a consistant percentage of the parents' salaries?
Interesting. You may be on to something...


That's not what I'm saying. If their income hasn't gone up, and their expenses have just like yours, where is the money for your raise going to come from? I'm not saying nannies should get a consistent percentage of their salaries at all. What I am saying is that you should be realistic with your expectations. I am a nanny by the way, married to a contractor who hasn't seen a raise in 2 years and is lucky to have his job.

What are you paid per hour and what do your employers do for a living?

This is irrelevant. It doesn't matter what she is paid an hour and what she does. That is none of your business.

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Anonymous wrote:You do understand what average means right? There are people who got more of a raise and people who got less, and even some who got no raise at all. Since the economy tanked, LOTS more people are getting no or very little increase in their salary. No one is making this up to be unfair to you. How do you expect your MB/DB to raise your salary each year when theirs hasn't changed for the last 4?

So you're saying the nanny's salary should be a consistant percentage of the parents' salaries?
Interesting. You may be on to something...

That's not what I'm saying. If their income hasn't gone up, and their expenses have just like yours, where is the money for your raise going to come from? I'm not saying nannies should get a consistent percentage of their salaries at all. What I am saying is that you should be realistic with your expectations. I am a nanny by the way, married to a contractor who hasn't seen a raise in 2 years and is lucky to have his job.

What are you paid per hour and what do your employers do for a living?

What does that have to do with anything? I make $20/hour in a share and my rate has been the same for 2 years after a raise from $18. My employers are Feds, 2 of the 4 have been furloughed. They were gracious enough not to pass it on to me. I'm not whining about a raise.

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Anonymous wrote:You do understand what average means right? There are people who got more of a raise and people who got less, and even some who got no raise at all. Since the economy tanked, LOTS more people are getting no or very little increase in their salary. No one is making this up to be unfair to you. How do you expect your MB/DB to raise your salary each year when theirs hasn't changed for the last 4?

So you're saying the nanny's salary should be a consistant percentage of the parents' salaries?
Interesting. You may be on to something...

That's not what I'm saying. If their income hasn't gone up, and their expenses have just like yours, where is the money for your raise going to come from? I'm not saying nannies should get a consistent percentage of their salaries at all. What I am saying is that you should be realistic with your expectations. I am a nanny by the way, married to a contractor who hasn't seen a raise in 2 years and is lucky to have his job.

What are you paid per hour and what do your employers do for a living?

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Anonymous wrote:You do understand what average means right? There are people who got more of a raise and people who got less, and even some who got no raise at all. Since the economy tanked, LOTS more people are getting no or very little increase in their salary. No one is making this up to be unfair to you. How do you expect your MB/DB to raise your salary each year when theirs hasn't changed for the last 4?

So you're saying the nanny's salary should be a consistant percentage of the parents' salaries?
Interesting. You may be on to something...

That's not what I'm saying. If their income hasn't gone up, and their expenses have just like yours, where is the money for your raise going to come from? I'm not saying nannies should get a consistent percentage of their salaries at all. What I am saying is that you should be realistic with your expectations. I am a nanny by the way, married to a contractor who hasn't seen a raise in 2 years and is lucky to have his job.

Anonymous wrote:
You do understand what average means right? There are people who got more of a raise and people who got less, and even some who got no raise at all. Since the economy tanked, LOTS more people are getting no or very little increase in their salary. No one is making this up to be unfair to you. How do you expect your MB/DB to raise your salary each year when theirs hasn't changed for the last 4?

So you're saying the nanny's salary should be a consistant percentage of the parents' salaries?
Interesting. You may be on to something...

That's not what she said.

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Anonymous wrote:You do understand what average means right? There are people who got more of a raise and people who got less, and even some who got no raise at all. Since the economy tanked, LOTS more people are getting no or very little increase in their salary. No one is making this up to be unfair to you. How do you expect your MB/DB to raise your salary each year when theirs hasn't changed for the last 4?

So you're saying the nanny's salary should be a consistant percentage of the parents' salaries?
Interesting. You may be on to something...

I agree with this. I was in a 40K a year job that required a Bachelors degree. I had 2 roommates and lived in a small apt. I made it work but money was tight. I worked there for 4 years and only received a raise the first year (and it was basically a $1 an hour raise). For the next 3 years, no one received any raises. It sucked and ultimately I had to find another job if I ever hoped to get out of debt.

Anonymous wrote:You do understand what average means right? There are people who got more of a raise and people who got less, and even some who got no raise at all. Since the economy tanked, LOTS more people are getting no or very little increase in their salary. No one is making this up to be unfair to you. How do you expect your MB/DB to raise your salary each year when theirs hasn't changed for the last 4?

So you're saying the nanny's salary should be a consistant percentage of the parents' salaries?
Interesting. You may be on to something...

There's a greater debate about the responsibility of employers in general to provide a living wage and not just nanny employers. But if that's your cause, then why post a stupid overall average USA Today statistic that probably doesn't even include the nannying profession? It puts all of us employers on the defensive because you're insinuating that we're all swimming in raises every year and hoarding the money. My husband and I are both federal employees - no raises in three years and we all took a 20% pay cut for the summer due to furloughs. Many of the contractors on my street were either laid off this summer or saw their teams cut back drastically. So, no, in my view anyway, I don't see these raises this statistic talks about and I feel compelled by your attitude to point this out rather than having a legitimate discussion about living wage.

Also find it interesting that there have been two posts recently asking about how it works at office jobs as a comparison to how it should work for nanny jobs. And yet there are also posters here who will scream "apples and oranges!" At any mention of the comparison.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, we understand "average". Some of you get no increase, and some get millions couched as bonuses, stock, etc. Of course the big "boys" with such perks, don't hang here.

It's just that as a MD, you probably aren't (or shouldn't) be living hand-to-mouth, as I see some of your nannies doing.
If your nanny is already paying 50% of her wages for a modest studio apartment, and her rent gets an annual increase, but her wages don't, what is she to do? If you can't afford to give her another dollar or two an hour, how is it that you can afford a nanny and the thousand dollar stroller?

Clearly, it's not really your problem. She goes on welfare, and/or into section 8 housing. Most of you might not even know about her personal struggles. She'd most likely keep her embarassing finances private.

But here's the thing, ladies. When the next increase shows up (utilities, metro fare, whatever), the bottom may come crashing down, and she just can't keep it together anymore. She is forced to move on and reach for another way. She'll give you a sweet and polite excuss for her untimely departure. She'll leave behind part of her soul with your child. (Sure, not every nanny loves your child with all her heart, but let's hope your child is one of the lucky ones.)

Can anyone here guess how her financial problem eventually does become your problem?

Every time you need to find yet another nanny to provide care for your child (for whatever the reason), the likelihood of causing serious harm, keeps going up.

That's why it's crucial to pay careful attention to the duration of time, a nanny can realistically give your child. And it should therefore be a top priority to invest whatever it takes
to create and maintain a longterm and stable, high quality caregiving arrangement for your child.

We've all heard the mother who loves to brag about her child's kindergarten teacher who's been there "forever", maybe was even Mom's teacher thirty years ago. That's why preschools with the most "forever" teachers, get the real bragging rights.

Nanny stability is of utmost importance, as well. How can parents address the high turnover that has become commonplace? For some parents, it means present your nanny (now) with a fair living wage, if you can. For others, it means go the extra mile to have that weekly conference with the nanny. Do the hard work to create the consistancy that your children need. The return on your investment should last a lifetime.

Some self reflection might be helpful. Instead of blaming your employers for your financial struggles, this might be the time to consider going back to school or picking up a skill that will lead you to a career. Not a job, but a career. Then you can become successful and not have to hate on your employers and feel entitled to what they have.

Yes, we understand "average". Some of you get no increase, and some get millions couched as bonuses, stock, etc. Of course the big "boys" with such perks, don't hang here.

It's just that as a MD, you probably aren't (or shouldn't) be living hand-to-mouth, as I see some of your nannies doing.
If your nanny is already paying 50% of her wages for a modest studio apartment, and her rent gets an annual increase, but her wages don't, what is she to do? If you can't afford to give her another dollar or two an hour, how is it that you can afford a nanny and the thousand dollar stroller?

Clearly, it's not really your problem. She goes on welfare, and/or into section 8 housing. Most of you might not even know about her personal struggles. She'd most likely keep her embarassing finances private.

But here's the thing, ladies. When the next increase shows up (utilities, metro fare, whatever), the bottom may come crashing down, and she just can't keep it together anymore. She is forced to move on and reach for another way. She'll give you a sweet and polite excuss for her untimely departure. She'll leave behind part of her soul with your child. (Sure, not every nanny loves your child with all her heart, but let's hope your child is one of the lucky ones.)

Can anyone here guess how her financial problem eventually does become your problem?

Every time you need to find yet another nanny to provide care for your child (for whatever the reason), the likelihood of causing serious harm, keeps going up.

That's why it's crucial to pay careful attention to the duration of time, a nanny can realistically give your child. And it should therefore be a top priority to invest whatever it takes
to create and maintain a longterm and stable, high quality caregiving arrangement for your child.

We've all heard the mother who loves to brag about her child's kindergarten teacher who's been there "forever", maybe was even Mom's teacher thirty years ago. That's why preschools with the most "forever" teachers, get the real bragging rights.

Nanny stability is of utmost importance, as well. How can parents address the high turnover that has become commonplace? For some parents, it means present your nanny (now) with a fair living wage, if you can. For others, it means go the extra mile to have that weekly conference with the nanny. Do the hard work to create the consistancy that your children need. The return on your investment should last a lifetime.

I'm a physician but an employee of a practice so I receive a salary. I have not received a raise in 3 years either. An average doesn't necessarily apply to every industry or field.

I'm a federal employee. We haven't had a raised in three years. "Average" doesn't mean anything, particularly if you're trying to insinuate what that means to one particular industry based on an average number for all industries that are recorded. I would assume that nanny raised are not included in the USA today stats for example.

You do understand what average means right? There are people who got more of a raise and people who got less, and even some who got no raise at all. Since the economy tanked, LOTS more people are getting no or very little increase in their salary. No one is making this up to be unfair to you. How do you expect your MB/DB to raise your salary each year when theirs hasn't changed for the last 4?

Link, please.

The annual pay raise is alive and well. It's a bit less of a raise than before, but it's still going strong, as the average actual pay increases.
Source: Hay Group analysis, as reported in today's USA TODAY.