Anonymous wrote:It isn't your business whether or not parents order from Amazon or drive Mercedes. The only thing that is your business is to negotiate a proper and legal contract based on market rates in your area. That's it.

The problem for all you whiny nannies is that the market can't bear the rates you want. This is a pretty straightforward concept. You can try and make yourselves sound as special as you want...but you aren't. It doesn't matter what kind of extras you have and it doesn't matter how valuable you think you are.

There are more of you than jobs. Parents set the market rate. Turnover is negligible to a family because kids get over you pretty quickly.

+1 -- COMPLETELY AGREE. I think alot of these nannies are hilarious with their inflated rates. About 5% of nannies are actually worth more then $15/hr. The rest just join the nanny circle because it's the only job that will get them above min wage. Then they complain.

Look there are probably 2-3 nannies who keep posting inflated rates and the overtop statements on much they think they deserve.

They've never hired a nanny and don't realize that the actual market is driven by supply and demand. The nannies requesting more market rates and not your inflated rate don't have lower qualifications. As a MB, you'll pay market rates which are well above minimum wage, and need to be upfront about job responsibilities and benefits. You should feel no reason to change your compensation package or job responsibilities because some obnoxious nannies on an anonymous board want super high rates and the least amount of work possible.

Frankly, in the nanny world sometimes "the more you pay, the less you get"! The super high rate posters are the same ones with the really bad work ethic and entitlements that they should get to nap, run their own errands, socialize with friends etc etc.

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Anonymous wrote:You whiny nannies are the freakin' WORST. If a job doesn't may what you think you deserve, then don't take it! Period! There is another nanny out there who will. I highly doubt you're all worth as much as you think anyway.

Hmmm so why are you on the NANNY forums reading the NANNY posts if you are so bothered. Your pathetic life is only excited by your condescending comments to women over the internet. Good for you darling.

That's funny because it looks like you spend a lot of your time doing the same!

So ordering from Amazon makes you rich? My nanny shops there too...

Anonymous wrote:You whiny nannies are the freakin' WORST. If a job doesn't may what you think you deserve, then don't take it! Period! There is another nanny out there who will. I highly doubt you're all worth as much as you think anyway.

Hmmm so why are you on the NANNY forums reading the NANNY posts if you are so bothered. Your pathetic life is only excited by your condescending comments to women over the internet. Good for you darling.

I hope parents consider the person they hire to raise their children "special". Your nanny has your child's development, happiness, and well-being in the palm of your hands. Think about the unkind things you're saying before you start treating the nanny as disposable and whiny.

You whiny nannies are the freakin' WORST. If a job doesn't may what you think you deserve, then don't take it! Period! There is another nanny out there who will. I highly doubt you're all worth as much as you think anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:It isn't your business whether or not parents order from Amazon or drive Mercedes. The only thing that is your business is to negotiate a proper and legal contract based on market rates in your area. That's it.

The problem for all you whiny nannies is that the market can't bear the rates you want. This is a pretty straightforward concept. You can try and make yourselves sound as special as you want...but you aren't. It doesn't matter what kind of extras you have and it doesn't matter how valuable you think you are.

There are more of you than jobs. Parents set the market rate. Turnover is negligible to a family because kids get over you pretty quickly.

Hmmm I wonder why so many MBs cry when nannies continuously leave them early.

No doubt her children don't deserve such a selfish parent.
So sad.

Anonymous wrote:It isn't your business whether or not parents order from Amazon or drive Mercedes. The only thing that is your business is to negotiate a proper and legal contract based on market rates in your area. That's it.

The problem for all you whiny nannies is that the market can't bear the rates you want. This is a pretty straightforward concept. You can try and make yourselves sound as special as you want...but you aren't. It doesn't matter what kind of extras you have and it doesn't matter how valuable you think you are.

There are more of you than jobs. Parents set the market rate. Turnover is negligible to a family because kids get over you pretty quickly.

Hmmm I wonder why so many MBs cry when nannies continuously leave them early.

Anonymous wrote:It isn't your business whether or not parents order from Amazon or drive Mercedes. The only thing that is your business is to negotiate a proper and legal contract based on market rates in your area. That's it.

The problem for all you whiny nannies is that the market can't bear the rates you want. This is a pretty straightforward concept. You can try and make yourselves sound as special as you want...but you aren't. It doesn't matter what kind of extras you have and it doesn't matter how valuable you think you are.

There are more of you than jobs. Parents set the market rate. Turnover is negligible to a family because kids get over you pretty quickly.

Do you employ a nanny? If so I honestly would suggest looking into a different care option. I couldn't imagine leaving my child in the hands of someone for whom I had such little respect. Or do you get off on this delusion that not only are you better than her and all domestic workers, but that you have some kind of sick power over her?

Parents only set the rates if we let them. If the majority of nannies began to refuse the lowball wages offered by so many families, the market would change. Nannies need to push for some kind of across the board licensing that will distinguish the real nannies from the posers, and for enforcement of employment and tax laws pertaining to household employees. It's way too easy for a family to take advantage of an illegal uneducated worker that makes them feel like they can afford a nanny, and the consequences are so rarely enforced. The only reason there is less of it in this area is only because most people can't afford to take the risk of skirting the law. We need to stop waiting for these parents to give us what we deserve. Their concern for us stops at what we have to offer them.

It isn't your business whether or not parents order from Amazon or drive Mercedes. The only thing that is your business is to negotiate a proper and legal contract based on market rates in your area. That's it.

The problem for all you whiny nannies is that the market can't bear the rates you want. This is a pretty straightforward concept. You can try and make yourselves sound as special as you want...but you aren't. It doesn't matter what kind of extras you have and it doesn't matter how valuable you think you are.

There are more of you than jobs. Parents set the market rate. Turnover is negligible to a family because kids get over you pretty quickly.

When I was 18, one of my teacher's told me, "You are about to embark into the real world, let me give you some advice to take w/you. IF something seems to good to be true, it PROBABLY is."

Now at 43, I can say that advice rings true time and time again.

I know some families try to nickel + dime their nannies. They try to negotiate a lower salary to get the best deal. Well guess what? Nannies are not appliances or used cars. We are humans and you do not negotiate w/the person who will be caring for your child. If you do find a cheap nanny and she turns out to be REALLY great, then enjoy her while you can. If she really is great, then be prepared for another family to snatch her up soon. Nannies who are overworked & underpaid soon realize that they are being taken advantage of. I agree that many nannies are people pleasers and non~confrontational so they will look for other positions that pay better behind a parent's back. Then when they get hired which they will, you will never hear or see them again.

It really irks me to work for families who pay me peanuts, yet expect me to clean the house and walk the dogs. It really irks me more when these same families take exotic vacations, order tons of goodies from Amazon and drive Mercedes while paying me a measly $8/Hr.

I think the bigger issue is that you may be able to get an amazing nanny for cheaper than she deserves, but you are risking stability and longevity when you do this. She will figure out that she deserves more, and if your package is truly lacking, she will move on. Nannies, by nature are people pleasers and non confrontational. You lose in the end if you negotiate her down. Parents need to be honest with themselves about what their budget will allow them to afford. You don't get(and keep) the top shelf nanny for generic nanny prices. If you want a bargain, you need to give on something (less experienced, less fluent, less professional, less qualified, less desirable traits, etc)

The nanny profession is not immune to reality. Certain parents here love to think that they got an amazing sitter for a bargain price. Good for you. Most of us get lucky at some point. Some of us even get lucky at every turn. Maybe we magically attract good fortune.

However, the old adage still holds true, *even* in the world of childcare.

"You get what you pay for."

For those of you who need to be told the obvious, that does not mean you don't have to still do your homework. You can't expect the moon just because you're paying high rates. But if you are smart, and do your homework, and can afford a top-notch job offer, you should be rewarded with outstanding service.