Anonymous
04/05/2013 10:42
Subject: Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
$90,000 a year is insane, and I'm an experienced, college educated nanny. This is a field that requires no licensure, testing, continuing education...basically no "real" requirements at all, anyone can try to do it. That being said, not everyone CAN do it, and those of us who are worth anything have experience and some kind of ECE or childhood development education and still aren't paid anything close to that. I just don't see how you could expect to make that kind of money in a field that is regulated by nothing/no one and requires no proof of your ability to actually do your job, seriously a teachers with PhD's don't even make that much. Our job is valuable, yes, but we are helping to raise children, not cure cancer. The inflated wages nannies are asking for are flooding the market with under-qualified candidates who think they can make an easy buck.
Anonymous
04/05/2013 10:07
Subject: Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
I absolutely agree with you OP.
That said, I think you would be hard pressed to find many families who would pay $90,000+ a year for a nanny. If you do, more power to you though!
That said, I think you would be hard pressed to find many families who would pay $90,000+ a year for a nanny. If you do, more power to you though!
Anonymous
04/05/2013 09:58
Subject: Re:Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
That wasn't a typo. That was a gross misspelling, and indicates that the OP is not as educated or intelligent as shed have us believe, certainly not warranting the $90k salary she expected.
Her spelling isn't the problem. Her expectations of $90k are the problem. Nannies offered that salary are rare, especially given the requirements she cites. They aren't unheard of, but they are rare.
I think the nanny who suggested dealing with salary expectations during the phone interview is right. It's also a good idea for both sides to research market rates in their area so they can begin negotiations on realistic terms and in the same general ballpark.
Anonymous
04/05/2013 09:14
Subject: Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
Anonymous wrote:I am a nanny who usually asks about salary during the phone interview. W/gasoline in CA being $4.25/gal. it would be unwise for me to drive all over town chasing jobs that don't pay me a living wage.
I would say 50% of prospective families have given me grief over asking about salary.
They say since I am bringing up salary so soon in the process that I must be only thinking of their child as a ca$h cow. Nothing could be further from the truth.
These days, w/families offering $5/Hr you just never know what you will run into. Before you drive across town for an interview, one must have a general idea how much the job offers so one will know if it is a potential good fit or not. It also saves the family time as well since they will only be meeting w/nannies who are okay working for the amount of salary that is being offered.
MB here - I agree w/ this. Much better for all parties to be as clear as possible, as early as possible, about the expectations and range for compensation etc... That doesn't mean there isn't room for negotiation but a prospective employer should be able to say some range of hourly or weekly rate - dependent on experience, qualification, references, etc... and a prospective nanny should be able to state some range of minimum compensation expectation - dependent on job specifics, total compensation package, etc...
Anonymous
04/05/2013 03:16
Subject: Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
I am a nanny who usually asks about salary during the phone interview. W/gasoline in CA being $4.25/gal. it would be unwise for me to drive all over town chasing jobs that don't pay me a living wage.
I would say 50% of prospective families have given me grief over asking about salary.
They say since I am bringing up salary so soon in the process that I must be only thinking of their child as a ca$h cow. Nothing could be further from the truth.
These days, w/families offering $5/Hr you just never know what you will run into. Before you drive across town for an interview, one must have a general idea how much the job offers so one will know if it is a potential good fit or not. It also saves the family time as well since they will only be meeting w/nannies who are okay working for the amount of salary that is being offered.
I would say 50% of prospective families have given me grief over asking about salary.
They say since I am bringing up salary so soon in the process that I must be only thinking of their child as a ca$h cow. Nothing could be further from the truth.
These days, w/families offering $5/Hr you just never know what you will run into. Before you drive across town for an interview, one must have a general idea how much the job offers so one will know if it is a potential good fit or not. It also saves the family time as well since they will only be meeting w/nannies who are okay working for the amount of salary that is being offered.
Anonymous
04/04/2013 20:19
Subject: Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
I'm sure OP can't afford an iPad that makes REAL typos like yours.
Based on your typo I am going to completely generalize that you must be an illegal immigrant nanny that makes $5 an hour.
Geez...
Go and do your spell check terrorizing on another thread!
Based on your typo I am going to completely generalize that you must be an illegal immigrant nanny that makes $5 an hour.
Geez...
Go and do your spell check terrorizing on another thread!
Anonymous
04/04/2013 20:06
Subject: Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
Anonymous wrote:PP the word is "she'd". It's not nice to call the OP a shed! Shame on you spelling police! I am sure all college educated people are perfect spellers 100% of the time! Because they teach spelling in college, right?
Mine was actually a typo. See I spelled it correctly and my IPad autocorrected she'd to shed. I'm not trying to be the spelling police, simply pointing out that a nanny worth $90k a year knows how to spell based.
Anonymous
04/04/2013 19:49
Subject: Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
PP the word is "she'd". It's not nice to call the OP a shed! Shame on you spelling police! I am sure all college educated people are perfect spellers 100% of the time! Because they teach spelling in college, right?
Anonymous
04/04/2013 17:44
Subject: Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
That wasn't a typo. That was a gross misspelling, and indicates that the OP is not as educated or intelligent as shed have us believe, certainly not warranting the $90k salary she expected.
Anonymous
04/04/2013 17:14
Subject: Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
17:10, Stop it. Typos aren't a mortal sin, certainly not on this board.
Anonymous
04/04/2013 17:10
Subject: Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
Anonymous wrote:Dear nanny employers & especially Agencies-
Please post the job salary. Pretty please! It's so frustrating to apply to job with beautifully written cover letters & resumes. And then only after the first interview and all that time and effort find out they are not offering nearly what you want.
Many agencies also refuse to post or tell me their clients salary offered until after the interview!!!! So frustrating!
I found a job on Craigslist that asked for a candidate with an Early Childhood Education Degree, someone who is fluent in French, someone who has at least 5 years experience, for 50-60 hours a week. They said they offered a "Generous Salary". I have all the credentials they want, so I applied. During the interview they finally told me their salary offer was $45k! I was assuming it would be at least double bast on experience.
Why is it such a secret at first to post salary? It weeds out a heck of a lot of people. Thank you to some agencies like Wellington who do post. And I wish others like Pavillion would be more upfront.
Searching for a job is hard. Why make it harder?
Okay, I'm a nanny, and all for advocating fair wages. That being said, if you feel you are the type of nanny deserving of $90k/year, the word is spelled "based."
Anonymous
04/04/2013 16:50
Subject: Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
Pretty soon there'll be websites like:
BadNannyFamily.com
&
BadNannyAgency.com
because of so much lying and cheating going on, on their part. Many of them take nannies for being plain dumb asses.
They can get listed by zip codes, to start with.
BadNannyFamily.com
&
BadNannyAgency.com
because of so much lying and cheating going on, on their part. Many of them take nannies for being plain dumb asses.
They can get listed by zip codes, to start with.
nannydebsays
04/04/2013 16:39
Subject: Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
Dear employers,
If you make less than mid-six figures a year and live in a major metropolitan area, research local Cost-of-Living information to determine if the $12,000 a year you wish to pay the 50+ hour a week nanny you hire will allow her to live in more than a cardboard box.
Dear Agencies,
Please be honest and upfront with clients who want everything for $2.25 per hour and tell them you can't help them find a slave.
Please also be honest with nannies about the salaries and benefits offered by your clients. When you send a nanny who must earn a minimum of $800/week on a $600 a week job, YOU look foolish and stupid to both your clients and the nanny.
Dear Nannies,
Please advocate for yourselves, pay your taxes like most everyone else has to do, and stop expecting to get paid $20/hour when you have no actual experience.
Please also stop accepting jobs that pay minimum wage or less. By doing so, you de-value yourself and all of us who do the domestic work of childcare in this country.
If you make less than mid-six figures a year and live in a major metropolitan area, research local Cost-of-Living information to determine if the $12,000 a year you wish to pay the 50+ hour a week nanny you hire will allow her to live in more than a cardboard box.
Dear Agencies,
Please be honest and upfront with clients who want everything for $2.25 per hour and tell them you can't help them find a slave.
Please also be honest with nannies about the salaries and benefits offered by your clients. When you send a nanny who must earn a minimum of $800/week on a $600 a week job, YOU look foolish and stupid to both your clients and the nanny.
Dear Nannies,
Please advocate for yourselves, pay your taxes like most everyone else has to do, and stop expecting to get paid $20/hour when you have no actual experience.
Please also stop accepting jobs that pay minimum wage or less. By doing so, you de-value yourself and all of us who do the domestic work of childcare in this country.
Anonymous
04/04/2013 16:11
Subject: Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
Dear Nannies - please be able to state what you expect as compensation. If you feel you are entitled to 90k a year in the position please be able to explain why.
Please also be prepared for not getting calls from the vast majority of employers who don't earn 90k themselves, let alone have the ability to approach that for childcare.
Please also be prepared for not getting calls from the vast majority of employers who don't earn 90k themselves, let alone have the ability to approach that for childcare.
Anonymous
04/04/2013 16:08
Subject: Pleading Agencies & Job Posters
Dear nanny employers & especially Agencies-
Please post the job salary. Pretty please! It's so frustrating to apply to job with beautifully written cover letters & resumes. And then only after the first interview and all that time and effort find out they are not offering nearly what you want.
Many agencies also refuse to post or tell me their clients salary offered until after the interview!!!! So frustrating!
I found a job on Craigslist that asked for a candidate with an Early Childhood Education Degree, someone who is fluent in French, someone who has at least 5 years experience, for 50-60 hours a week. They said they offered a "Generous Salary". I have all the credentials they want, so I applied. During the interview they finally told me their salary offer was $45k! I was assuming it would be at least double bast on experience.
Why is it such a secret at first to post salary? It weeds out a heck of a lot of people. Thank you to some agencies like Wellington who do post. And I wish others like Pavillion would be more upfront.
Searching for a job is hard. Why make it harder?
Please post the job salary. Pretty please! It's so frustrating to apply to job with beautifully written cover letters & resumes. And then only after the first interview and all that time and effort find out they are not offering nearly what you want.
Many agencies also refuse to post or tell me their clients salary offered until after the interview!!!! So frustrating!
I found a job on Craigslist that asked for a candidate with an Early Childhood Education Degree, someone who is fluent in French, someone who has at least 5 years experience, for 50-60 hours a week. They said they offered a "Generous Salary". I have all the credentials they want, so I applied. During the interview they finally told me their salary offer was $45k! I was assuming it would be at least double bast on experience.
Why is it such a secret at first to post salary? It weeds out a heck of a lot of people. Thank you to some agencies like Wellington who do post. And I wish others like Pavillion would be more upfront.
Searching for a job is hard. Why make it harder?