Anonymous
Post 01/20/2013 01:24     Subject: Snoopy charge
Anonymous wrote:PP 11:44, whaaat?! It's "not a violation of privacy to snoop through something left in a public place, whether it's a computer or countertop"?! Are you serious?? It may not be "illegal" or necessarily "wrong" in your eyes but it most definitely is an invasion of someone's privacy!


I think the PP was talking in reference to it being illegal and something that would be punishable by law, compared to just being ethically bad. They did not seem to condone the kid's actions at all. They just meant that the punishment should fit the kids actions and reading something that didn't belong to them but was out in the open would require more of a talk about respecting people's privacy even with things left out as just punishing them with no tv for a week is not suitable for that. If you don't want something looked at then don't leave it out. But if he did have to use your computer to find it, move pages around to read stuff, login to your email (with saved password) or hack into accounts, then all that would deserve a talk and stiffer punishment.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2013 22:30     Subject: Snoopy charge
OP, the police cannot deport you as you are here legally. These people are crazy. Are you safe in this environment and is there a host father in the picture? If so, is he sane? Just pack your things and get out as fast as possible.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2013 21:36     Subject: Snoopy charge
Wow!! She sounds nuts. You should postan a don craigslist warning people about that family!
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2013 19:07     Subject: Re:Snoopy charge
Anonymous wrote:First, it was inappropriate that your charge read your email, but to me the seriousness and consequences should depend on how he into the email. If he actually hacked into your account or went into your room and used your personal computer without permission that is a huge violation of your privacy and, I think, should warrant serious consequences. If you left your email signed in on the family computer, then what he did was inconsiderate, but I don't think it is a violation of privacy to snoop through something left in a public place whether it is a computer or a countertop. I would still have a talk with my child about being respectful/considerate of others but would not see it as worthy of punishment.

Your second (and probably more important right now) issue is what happens with your job. At this point it seems like your next move is to wait and see what MB has to say this afternoon. As a MB, if the emails were venting about the frustrations of the job, I think I would take it as a opportunity to clear the air and wouldn't jump right to letting you go. On the other hand, if the emails were personal attacks on my family (I hate MB, the kids are brats, etc), I would want you out of my house as quickly as possible.

Of course, even if MB does want to work thing sout, you have to decide if you want to stay. If the parents had violated your privacy, I would say its probably time to go, but assuming the parents do take the child's behavior seriously and there are not other major issues, I'm not sure this warrants asking for rematch.


She hacked into my personal computer that was in my room. She has been trying to get rid of me since day one and now has got her way. The mother had a whole list of accusations against me including telling me that her daughter said I was stealing their underwear. She has fired me and gave me four days to "vacate her premises or she will call the cops to deport me." I am very happy to get rid of this.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2013 17:08     Subject: Snoopy charge
OP, it's almost impossible to believe that your HM would even think of discussing with you the content of your personal email. But, if it's true, the answer is simple. Refuse to discuss it. At all. They were private emails shared without your permission and you have no comment, explanation, or apology.
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2013 15:12     Subject: Snoopy charge
PP 11:44, whaaat?! It's "not a violation of privacy to snoop through something left in a public place, whether it's a computer or countertop"?! Are you serious?? It may not be "illegal" or necessarily "wrong" in your eyes but it most definitely is an invasion of someone's privacy! I am a nanny and would not feel comfortable going through my boss' files/emails on their computer, nor their paperwork on their office desk. I would think you would feel the same way if you somehow accidentally left your computer out (assuming your response to me will be that if you don't want someone to see it, put it away) and your nanny or whomever checked your personal email?

Also to PP 11:44, I can't believe you said you think this warrants "no punishment" for the child....I cant fathom how that is true. Sure, if the nanny/au pair wrote truly awful things in the emails, then I would not want her around my kids or my family any longer either. But I would STILL make sure my DC knew that it was completely wrong to go through someone else's stuff! Much less print it out, how weird....what kind of kid does that of his/her own accord anyway?? Even if he/she IS "older"? If I were you OP, I wouldn't want to work for this family any longer anyway!!
Anonymous
Post 01/18/2013 00:05     Subject: Snoopy charge
If you left it out in the open then ofcourse he's going to read it. If I was a kid and read my nanny's email and seen she was complaining about my family/parents I would prob tell them too. Just be more careful next time so the little snooper doesnt see your (private) emails.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2013 11:44     Subject: Re:Snoopy charge
First, it was inappropriate that your charge read your email, but to me the seriousness and consequences should depend on how he into the email. If he actually hacked into your account or went into your room and used your personal computer without permission that is a huge violation of your privacy and, I think, should warrant serious consequences. If you left your email signed in on the family computer, then what he did was inconsiderate, but I don't think it is a violation of privacy to snoop through something left in a public place whether it is a computer or a countertop. I would still have a talk with my child about being respectful/considerate of others but would not see it as worthy of punishment.

Your second (and probably more important right now) issue is what happens with your job. At this point it seems like your next move is to wait and see what MB has to say this afternoon. As a MB, if the emails were venting about the frustrations of the job, I think I would take it as a opportunity to clear the air and wouldn't jump right to letting you go. On the other hand, if the emails were personal attacks on my family (I hate MB, the kids are brats, etc), I would want you out of my house as quickly as possible.

Of course, even if MB does want to work thing sout, you have to decide if you want to stay. If the parents had violated your privacy, I would say its probably time to go, but assuming the parents do take the child's behavior seriously and there are not other major issues, I'm not sure this warrants asking for rematch.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2013 10:48     Subject: Snoopy charge
Every one needs a place to vent. When I was a live-in, I constantly complained about the family to my then boyfriend but that doesn't mean I was completely unhappy. Just tell the parents that you were having a bad day and needed an outlet. Also be more careful about you emails in the future, if your charges were able to find the email and print it out I'm guessing they are on the older side which means they should definitely know better. They should be punished in some way for snooping. No computer or games for a few days.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2013 10:43     Subject: Re:Snoopy charge
I hope they teach their child that hacking into someone's personal email account is very serious and a jailable offense when you are older. I hope you let your charge know how wrong he was to do this and tell him it will not be acceptable for him to repeat this behavior. If I were you I would be requesting rematch immediately. The fact that the parents read the printed out emails speaks volumes about them as well. That was personal information and they had no business reading it. Plenty of people rant about what they are unhappy about with their jobs to others through email and you should be able to do the same.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2013 09:56     Subject: Snoopy charge
Anonymous wrote:Grow up. You already know that you belong in the au pair section.


OP: very rude. I am new to this board and I can see why new people who ask a valid question would feel very unwelcome. You sound like you are on the immature side.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2013 09:47     Subject: Snoopy charge
Grow up. You already know that you belong in the au pair section.
Anonymous
Post 01/17/2013 09:40     Subject: Snoopy charge
The oldest child read my personal emails and printed them out and showed them to his parents and my host mother left the printed out emails on the kitchen counter this morning saying we will talk about it after she's home from work tonight. The personal emails were to my parents complaining about my job. I don't really think as poorly about my host family as the emails sound. Has this ever happened to anyone else? What should I do next?