Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 21:52     Subject: Re:Should I fire my nanny?

Definitely talk to her first - who knows what could have happened - she might have passed out at 5pm on Sunday and didn't wake up until 7 AM on Monday sick as a dog still- who knows. the only option I can think of is that because you don't guarantee her any hours she's out working for someone else as a trial run or something (unless you are absolutely sure she is sick)
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 21:35     Subject: Should I fire my nanny?

"OP, I don't think you should fire her, but I do think this warrants a formal warning.

Schedule a time to sit down with her and say that you realize the two of you hadn't sorted out your policies surrounding sick days and proper notification, so you'd like to do that now. Let her know that if she is sick, you need to know by 6am (or whatever time) and that if you haven't heard from her by then you will assume she is coming in. "

agree
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 20:53     Subject: Should I fire my nanny?

Op I used to be a nanny and I do think it is very unprofessional that she only gave you 10 mins notice. I never would have done that to my employers. The one time I was sick, I let them know the night before. However, since you did say that she is wonderful with the kids and goes above and beyond, I would definitely give her another chance. As long as she has not done anything like this before you should just talk to her about it and move on. She most likely overslept, woke up feeling like crap so decided she needed another day off. She should have at least called you though. Also, keep in mind there are some nasty bugs going around and the last thing you want is for your kids to get sick too. I just got over a nasty cold that kept me up coughing at night for 2 weeks.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 20:51     Subject: Should I fire my nanny?

Given that she doesn't have any comped sick days, she was probably waiting until the last minute to decide whether or not she was sick enough to justify losing the day's pay. If this is the first time this has happened (which it sounds like it was) don't fire her, but have a serious conversation with her about your needs with regard to notice. You might consider giving her some PTO/Sick days, with an even larger requirement for notice, ie. if she notifies you by 9 PM the night before, it can be a paid sick day, if she notifies you by 5 AM it's unpaid, but not fireable, and if she leaves you less notice than that it's grounds for termination (obviously substitute in whatever times you'd prefer).
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 19:37     Subject: Re:Should I fire my nanny?

Anonymous wrote:Bitch


Is Bitch referring to me or my nanny? If you think I'm a bitch, I can handle that, just explain to me why, I am listening and open to suggestions!

thank you,
B. for bithch? lol!
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 19:35     Subject: Re:Should I fire my nanny?

Anonymous wrote:OP, I don't think you should fire her, but I do think this warrants a formal warning.

Wonderful idea, Thank you for this wise advise, it's fair and practical. She has never done this before and so I think it is only right to solidify expectations. I'll give this some serious thought.


B



Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 18:54     Subject: Re:Should I fire my nanny?

OP, I don't think you should fire her, but I do think this warrants a formal warning.

Schedule a time to sit down with her and say that you realize the two of you hadn't sorted out your policies surrounding sick days and proper notification, so you'd like to do that now. Let her know that if she is sick, you need to know by 6am (or whatever time) and that if you haven't heard from her by then you will assume she is coming in. Tell her if she is unable to provide that notification, you will unfortunately need to terminate her employment. Give her this in writing, or amend your contract if you have one, and ask her if she has any questions or needs any clarification (for instance, I let my employers know two hours before I'm scheduled to be in if I'm sick, but I do so by text so as not to disturb anyone who might be sleeping - would you rather she call or text? would you prefer a heads up the night before if she's beginning to feel under the weather? etc.) and then move on.

Your nanny absolutely should be reliable and I agree that with only 10 minutes notice she probably overslept, but since it hasn't been clarified before I don't think it would be right to fire her on her first offense. Set some firm expectations for future sick days and hopefully that will be all it takes.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 18:49     Subject: Re:Should I fire my nanny?

Bitch
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 17:59     Subject: Should I fire my nanny?

Anonymous wrote:You knew she was sick. If your meeting was that important, you should have checked in with her and explained that to her last night or earlier yesterday so you had time to find a backup. If she said she was ok and would be in and then called in today, then yes, fire her. If she's otherwise reliable and this is the first incident then you need to have a conversation with her and let her know you need more notice than that for calling in sick. You also need to be registered with an agency that will send someone out on short notice.


This is true, but most employees are allowed sick days, no? What if she overslept because she was sick? Can't be helped? I'm at odds here. She is in her 50's, maybe I should have hired someone younger. Ugh

B.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 17:56     Subject: Should I fire my nanny?

She should of told you the night before.

I'd talk to her and give her another chance....if she wants it.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 17:52     Subject: Re:Should I fire my nanny?

I think you're right. I guess you get what you pay for. Her drive is 30 to 45 minutes. She probably did oversleep. The kids love her and she goes above and beyond w/them, but, still, no excuse for what she did.

thanks,
B
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 17:38     Subject: Should I fire my nanny?

How long is her commute? If it is 30 minutes, then she didn't inform you she wouldn't be there until 20 minutes after she was supposed to leave the house. Sounds like she overslept. If she was sick last week and all weekend, she would have known by Sunday night at the latest that she would not be feeling well enough to go back. Also, she knows she is leaving you in a bind and that there is no form of backup care that will be there within 10 minutes, and yet she sends a text message?

I would start looking for a new nanny.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 17:25     Subject: Should I fire my nanny?

Anonymous wrote:You knew she was sick. If your meeting was that important, you should have checked in with her and explained that to her last night or earlier yesterday so you had time to find a backup. If she said she was ok and would be in and then called in today, then yes, fire her. If she's otherwise reliable and this is the first incident then you need to have a conversation with her and let her know you need more notice than that for calling in sick. You also need to be registered with an agency that will send someone out on short notice.


Do other bosses have to do this for their employees, even in the case of something very important? No. If you want to be treated like a professional then act like it! As a nanny, 10 min before is absolutely unacceptable. Not only that but it's straight up rude. If this happens frequently OP then yes I would say it may be time to have a sit down with her and discuss this issue. Being reliable should be a top priority for nannies.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 17:15     Subject: Should I fire my nanny?

You knew she was sick. If your meeting was that important, you should have checked in with her and explained that to her last night or earlier yesterday so you had time to find a backup. If she said she was ok and would be in and then called in today, then yes, fire her. If she's otherwise reliable and this is the first incident then you need to have a conversation with her and let her know you need more notice than that for calling in sick. You also need to be registered with an agency that will send someone out on short notice.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2012 16:53     Subject: Should I fire my nanny?

My nanny texted me 10 minutes before she was supposed to be here at 7 a.m. to tell me she couldn't make it in because she was too ill. I had to cancel my very important meeting at work and it made me look bad with my employer. She informed me two days earlier that she was sick and I gave her two days off without pay, but expected her on Monday since she had the whole week end to get better.

I feel that I can't count on her, this just can't happen again because my job is too important.

I appreciate that she gets up very early to be here and is often here even earlier on a moment's notice. She has been flexible for me in the past. I pay her by the hour to the penny and do not offer her any type of guaranteed wage, however, I don't think there is any excuse for her giving me 10 minutes notice for being sick.

Should I let her go, or am I being unreasonable?

Please be brutally honest, I can take it. Thanks so much.

Bernadette