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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Playdates were kids of both families are playing together while being overlooked by their respective caregiver: okay.

Playdates were people drop off their kids to be looked after by the AP: Not Okay.

If I asked my LCC if the kids can have a playdate she would say “of course!” , if I asked her if it would be okay for me to let neighbors and friends drop off their kids and for my AP to watch them for free. She would say “absolutely not.”

“Playdates” is a normal thing kids have so of course if you ask an AP or a LCC whether or not playdates are allowed and they would be okay taking kids to playdates, they would say yes. When I organize playdates it’s 99% me meeting parents at a park where they look after their own kids and I look after mine and the kids play together,  very rarely is playdate “drop off your kids at mine and come pick them up in a couple hours when you are done enjoying your kid-free time/running errands.” , if it was (and I understand it might be the case for tweens) I would feel it’s the responsibility of the host parents to be there to overlook it and if not, at the very least, for the other parents of the kids that are dropped off to offer and pay the Au Pair for what is actually and essentially babysitting.

How people can think “playdates” were the AP is left alone with other people kids for a couple hours isn’t babysitting and would be okay is nuts.

And I am sure parents who pretend they write it on their profiles aren’t actually saying “ oh and on Wednesdays and Fridays you will be looking after Johnny and Allison, the Neighbors for 3 hours, for free.” But probably write. “ the kids have playdates twice a week with the neighbors that we hope the perfect AP will help maintain and coordinate as our kids love playing together, they are only a 5 minutes walk away!.”

So yes of course, wording B probably wouldn’t get flagged while wording A totally would.

Carpooling 5 minutes from point A to B is different but for all the reasons previously mentioned also not acceptable.

Can’t believe the amount of people who are willingly trying to find loopholes to abuse the system and have their AP do free work for extra risks and very little reward.

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A playdate isn't free childcare. This isn't like, "every day after school the kid comes to my house so the parent doesn't pay for aftercare." a playdate is an occasional thing, for a kid who has a regular care arrangement. no one is paying less for childcare by sending their kid on a playdate. usually they're reciprocated, meaning the au pair's host kid goes to the other house as often as the other kid comes to the au pair's house....  see?[/quote]

Beg to differ.  I know multiple child families that have strict schedules including play dates.

Preschool child:
Monday play date child carpools to the house for 45 minute play then off to activity, picked up by parent there.
Tuesday preschooler goes to activity, play date child b comes home after and is picked up 30 minutes later
Wednesday preschooler has two friends come home for 20 minute play, then off to activity, play date a picked up there, play date c comes home for 50 minutes before pick up
Thursday preschooler picked up by play date a going straight to activity, pick up from activity
Friday preschooler picked up by play date b to go straight to activity, picked up after activity

Add in 1-3 older kids and I understand why the family does it.  Hire a nanny or driver, not an AP who has visa limitations.[/quote]

And this kind of schedule is why kids are so screwed up and unhappy...

Where is the visa limitation that you are referring to? I don't see it:
https://j1visa.state.gov/programs/au-pair[/quote]

The JI visa is approved for ONE, SPECIFIC FAMILY.  :shock: [/quote]

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