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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]A nanny shouldn't "expect" anything but what she agreed to, but an MB *should* have the decency to offer a PTO day for someone who clearly needs it and can't afford it otherwise. You all can muster more outrage over the treatment of your vegetables...[/quote]

You really have a chip on your shoulder. [/quote]

Nope no chip. Just an observation. I've seen some of the most abhorrent attitudes from nannies and MBs alike on this site, but this thread really bothers me. The fact that OP was so clueless she had to come here to check if this is a firing offense, and when it was suggested that the nice reasonable human thing to do would have been to send her home with pay, a bunch of MBs jumped down our throats going on about professionalism and entitlement. Given the choice, do you pick 1)taking a job with no PTO or 2)remaining jobless, risking your savings and your welfare? Lets say you take the job. You find yourself extremely ill one day/recently hospitalized. Do you 1)call out from work knowing you won't be able to pay your rent/grocery bill/daycare and that you and perhaps your children will go hungry or 2) go into work and do the best you can. It's easy to say you just wouldn't take a job without PTO or that you'd negotiate it but the reality is that some people just aren't in the position to do so. It's also easy to say that you'd put your professionalism before your bills or your needs, but until you've been there you can't say for sure that you would. Have some compassion please. Being a kind and caring person goes beyond being nice to people you feel are worth it (in your circle/peer group/social class) or donating to a charity once a year for the tax write off. [/quote]

[b]There are many jobs where there is no boss that will consider giving the person time off paid if they are sick. They won't do that at Starbucks, or at Burger King.[/b] It's called life. Yes, things can get crappy if you have to take an unpaid day off and you cannot afford to do it. It is not someone else's responsibility to make sure that anyone else has enough money to pay their bills and buy food for themselves though. That is the way it is. Most of you people that are going on about this have never had to experience more than maybe going with a bit less food for a bit. I have gone through not having ANYTHING, no place to live, no car, no money at all because I ran out of savings. When you don't have more than the clothes on your back because you can't carry a suitcase around with you all day when homeless, and things get stolen the first second you take your eyes off of it, you learn to live with the basics. Believe me, I can manage to survive living off of the smallest amount of money now, because I know that as long as I have a place to live, food of any kind to eat, that nothing else matters. I don't go and waste the money that I earn, so that I can save money to help cover those unexpected times that you have to take a day off unpaid. Even living paycheck to paycheck there are ways to save some money here and there. While I appreciate the kindness of my MBs that offer to help make up hours later one for a paid day off, or just give me the day off paid anyways, I make sure that I can find a way to deal with taking an unpaid day off if it is needed. If you are working and can't find anyway to save something, then you are living beyond your means. Or you need to find another job to go with your current one, a better paying job, etc. You need to help yourself.[/quote]

[b]Your logic doesn't-or shouldn't-apply here. Comparing being a nanny to working in fast food is just insulting. This job comes with many more responsibilities, and therefor, should come with more benefits (which Starbucks would actually give you!).  Nannies and MB's are in a unique employment situation where some compassion and empathy is to be expected, it is so sad to see how few people understand this.[/b][/quote]

And PP1, I would argue that it is an employer's responsibility to ensure his or her staff can survive on what he pays. It's a shame that more employers don't recognize it, but THAT IS THE WAY IT IS.[/quote]

It is not the employer's responsibility to make sure their staff can survive on what they pay. I can decide that I want to live in a $2000/month apartment instead of a $950/room in a shared living situation. It is my MB's job to make sure I earn enough to pay for that? That would obviously not be true. Is it their job to see that I can afford the $5 organic milk instead of the $3 milk? Or the national name brand of an item instead of the cheap generic brand? No, it is not. It is their job to pay me a fair market rate (and that is at least minimum wage). People are forgetting that this is most likely a PT position. If you want to work PT, you either learn to live on a smaller amount of money, or get more than 1 job. You make sure that you are working enough hours overall with a rate you can afford to live on. I don't go into a job interview and say I want your position, but I cannot take that $16/hr you want to pay, I need $18 instead so that I can cover all my bills. You either take the position, find something else, or go get a second job in another industry (like fast food) to make enough. You people are so ignorant that you think it is ANYONE ELSE'S responsibility but your own to make sure you are earning enough money to live on.[/quote]

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