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Thanks NP PP!

First, I do know I make more than average nannies - which is why in my first post I said those rates might actually not be OTT for those particular candidates even thought just seeing them on paper without other information they seem remarkably high for a NWOC - and why I tried to break down how a nanny might legitimately be "worth" $15-17/hr even with her own child.

And PP is correct about the difference between a share and a NWOC. The nanny is still an employee and her charges, her employer's children, get first priority for activities, schedules, and other needs. So if nanny's child doesn't want to go to the pool but her charges do? Too bad, kiddo, that's where we're going. Nanny's child needs a nap but it's time for the charge's music class? Everyone's going to music! The nanny and her child will both be expected to abide by the household rules of her employer and defer to their preferences regarding discipline, diet, toys, etc. So if the family wants only wooden toys around their kids, nanny's child will leave his plastic action figures at home to play with another time. Does that make sense? A share is 50-50 (cost and priority) because both sets of parents are the employers; it's a different scenario entirely with a NWOC. (In the UK, a NWOC typically takes a 10% pay cut fwiw.) Additionally, a NWOC should provide her own car seats, portable high chair, sleeping cot (if applicable), child's food, and child's toys and to remove them ALL at the end of every day - whereas a hosting share family will have to live with two of everything taking up space in their house.[/quote]
I understand what you're trying to say, but you must see that it cannot possibly apply to all nanny-child duos.  For starters, your argument requires that a nanny's child is of an age when she/he can be a) reasoned with, and b) fairly independent.  Why? Well, say, your 6-year old charge has pool time, and your infant (or toddler, or 2-year old) doesn't.  What are you going to do with your infant/toddler child when you are in the pool with your 6-year old charge? You aren't going to leave your infant child strapped into a carseat in the corner of the pool (I assume), and you can't very well expect a toddler to sit still for an hour of swim practice.

Say your infant/toddler is due for a nap, but your older charge doesn't nap.  You can't very well tell an infant or a toddler on the verge of a meltdown to just buckle up and ride through it.  It's not like they can hold off napping just because you really, really want them to.  Kids have needs that aren't negotiable, and this doesn't change whether their parents are nannies or not. Do you see what I'm trying to say? In order not to compromise well-being of either child, certain conditions must be in place. It can't work for all nannies with all children.  I've outlined two scenarios where their needs might be in conflict and I'm sure there are others, and if you are as experienced as you say you are, I'm sure you can see them too.[/quote]

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