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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Stay out of it, OP. It's not for you to educate the candidate you didn't even hire on how to be a better nanny. References are not an automatic positive endorsement. Some are good and some are bad and they serve to inform an employer. That's what happened here and is all you should be concerned about.[/quote]
I have to disagree under these circumstances. The former employer seems disgruntled, and the nanny should be told the truth.[/quote]

Well, I'd advocate for letting the candidate know somehow, but this poster is right - it isn't her job to do so.  It is quite poor of the candidate not to have informed a reference that they might get a call, and to not have a sense of what might be said.  It sounds like the nanny in question doesn't really know how to handle the professional aspects of changing/finding jobs.

I don't think we can assume the former employer is disgruntled.  It sounds like she was unhappy with the performance and didn't do her job as an employer with much professionalism either but she might be completely accurate in her assessment/review of the nanny's performance.  We can't tell from the little info we have here.[/quote]

I beg to differ. Former MBS let nanny go without clear indicators of why. Then she freely and deliberately BURNS the nanny.  Sounds disgruntled.  Even if FE concerns are genuine and justified, there is a way and appropriate phraseology to use to convey dissatisfaction.  It would be unreasonable for nanny to use FE as a reference if she knew it would be a bad one.  So I agree with PP about former MB being deceptive. All negatives toward the MB-but she's not job hunting.

Don't know what state/area this is in. However, there can be laws governing the manner in which previous employers provide reference information. Reason being, this exact scenario whereby the person could be (maliciously) interfering with the candidate ever being likely to get a new position.  You cannot harm another person's need to earn a living.  And, no one is going to give a negative reference just because she was unaware/hadn't been asked. So maybe it's not that the nanny doesn't know how to "professional aspects of finding a jon. She may not know how to be aware/handle being stabbed in the back vis-a-vie, her wallet.

As for what you should tell the nanny...  Agree with PP: Ask her if her former employer approved using her as a reference? Did she alert FE to expect your/other inquiries?  Then tell her, "Your references were not what we expected. ". And if you want to assist her a bit further, you  could add something like, "It's a good practice to have a trusted friend call and do a "mock reference check" to gain feedback on the type of reference being provided. Or not.[/quote]

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