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Anonymous wrote:You know what? Kids don't have to destroy cars. They don't have to create filth or damage things.

You teach kids how to behave, you manage what they have access to in a vehicle and you oversee them appropriately.

This is what a nanny should be doing anyway right? So if a nanny is doing her job well then her vehicle will be treated with respect. Mine is.

Mileage reimbursement covers plenty, car detailing is great also, as are protective covers, etc...

But teaching the kids how to behave is the best protection.

Bullshit

Charming. You work with kids?

Re the pp and the list of things can do in a car, I have seat liners for the (very) rare blowout and the more frequent potty training accident. I have one child, who is now 4 1/2, who gets extremely carsick. She has a bucket in the car. She alerts well, uses the bucket, etc... About three times when she was smaller she threw up on herself. I had to wash clothes and carseat covers. It had zero impact on my vehicle. I have seat back protectors for the kicking, and I also have taught them not to kick. They get water and dry snacks to eat in the car. I need to vacuum periodically to get goldfish/pretzels/crackers out of the car.

One child pulled out the safety bar inside my 9 year old car. That is the only actual damage my car has sustained.

Kids are dirty but they do not have to be nightmarishly destructive. Intelligent management of them helps mitigate all of this. With older kids they can also learn to clean the car. Using a vaccuum, some Resolve/window cleaner, etc... is a great task for them.

Anonymous wrote:Her insurance definitely goes up. The standard mileage reimbursement does not address the extreme wear and tear from kids and carseats. That would be extra.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what? Kids don't have to destroy cars. They don't have to create filth or damage things.

You teach kids how to behave, you manage what they have access to in a vehicle and you oversee them appropriately.

This is what a nanny should be doing anyway right? So if a nanny is doing her job well then her vehicle will be treated with respect. Mine is.

Mileage reimbursement covers plenty, car detailing is great also, as are protective covers, etc...

But teaching the kids how to behave is the best protection.

Bullshit

Charming. You work with kids?

Re the pp and the list of things can do in a car, I have seat liners for the (very) rare blowout and the more frequent potty training accident. I have one child, who is now 4 1/2, who gets extremely carsick. She has a bucket in the car. She alerts well, uses the bucket, etc... About three times when she was smaller she threw up on herself. I had to wash clothes and carseat covers. It had zero impact on my vehicle. I have seat back protectors for the kicking, and I also have taught them not to kick. They get water and dry snacks to eat in the car. I need to vacuum periodically to get goldfish/pretzels/crackers out of the car.

One child pulled out the safety bar inside my 9 year old car. That is the only actual damage my car has sustained.

Kids are dirty but they do not have to be nightmarishly destructive. Intelligent management of them helps mitigate all of this. With older kids they can also learn to clean the car. Using a vaccuum, some Resolve/window cleaner, etc... is a great task for them.

What a boatload of extra work. I hope they pay you well. GL.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what? Kids don't have to destroy cars. They don't have to create filth or damage things.

You teach kids how to behave, you manage what they have access to in a vehicle and you oversee them appropriately.

This is what a nanny should be doing anyway right? So if a nanny is doing her job well then her vehicle will be treated with respect. Mine is.

Mileage reimbursement covers plenty, car detailing is great also, as are protective covers, etc...

But teaching the kids how to behave is the best protection.

Bullshit

Charming. You work with kids?

Re the pp and the list of things can do in a car, I have seat liners for the (very) rare blowout and the more frequent potty training accident. I have one child, who is now 4 1/2, who gets extremely carsick. She has a bucket in the car. She alerts well, uses the bucket, etc... About three times when she was smaller she threw up on herself. I had to wash clothes and carseat covers. It had zero impact on my vehicle. I have seat back protectors for the kicking, and I also have taught them not to kick. They get water and dry snacks to eat in the car. I need to vacuum periodically to get goldfish/pretzels/crackers out of the car.

One child pulled out the safety bar inside my 9 year old car. That is the only actual damage my car has sustained.

Kids are dirty but they do not have to be nightmarishly destructive. Intelligent management of them helps mitigate all of this. With older kids they can also learn to clean the car. Using a vaccuum, some Resolve/window cleaner, etc... is a great task for them.

What a boatload of extra work. I hope they pay you well. GL.

Hardly. It's the job - whether you're a nanny or a parent. And if you do these things your car isn't the disaster zone these other posters are carrying on about. No different than managing the mess of kids in a household, or teaching them to clean up after themselves there.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what? Kids don't have to destroy cars. They don't have to create filth or damage things.

You teach kids how to behave, you manage what they have access to in a vehicle and you oversee them appropriately.

This is what a nanny should be doing anyway right? So if a nanny is doing her job well then her vehicle will be treated with respect. Mine is.

Mileage reimbursement covers plenty, car detailing is great also, as are protective covers, etc...

But teaching the kids how to behave is the best protection.

Bullshit

Charming. You work with kids?

Re the pp and the list of things can do in a car, I have seat liners for the (very) rare blowout and the more frequent potty training accident. I have one child, who is now 4 1/2, who gets extremely carsick. She has a bucket in the car. She alerts well, uses the bucket, etc... About three times when she was smaller she threw up on herself. I had to wash clothes and carseat covers. It had zero impact on my vehicle. I have seat back protectors for the kicking, and I also have taught them not to kick. They get water and dry snacks to eat in the car. I need to vacuum periodically to get goldfish/pretzels/crackers out of the car.

One child pulled out the safety bar inside my 9 year old car. That is the only actual damage my car has sustained.

Kids are dirty but they do not have to be nightmarishly destructive. Intelligent management of them helps mitigate all of this. With older kids they can also learn to clean the car. Using a vaccuum, some Resolve/window cleaner, etc... is a great task for them.

What a boatload of extra work. I hope they pay you well. GL.

Hardly. It's the job - whether you're a nanny or a parent. And if you do these things your car isn't the disaster zone these other posters are carrying on about. No different than managing the mess of kids in a household, or teaching them to clean up after themselves there.

PP that you referenced with the list.

It would be great if I was allowed to decide what snacks kids have. But I wasn't.

It would be great if I was could have disciplined the child for kicking the seats, and taught him not to do it. But I couldn't because the child was only 2.5 (very big for his age), the parents caused the situations that resulted in the meltdowns and I was more concerned with calming him down before he made himself sick.

I've never known an infant or toddler who could alert that they were sick and grab a bucket. Preschoolers like the 4 year old charge you have, sure. But not at 6 months to 2, and certainly not for kids that don't get carsick but are actually feeling sick.

Seat liners don't do a thing for things that drip off of the child's foot, especially when those feet are waving around in the air.

A child leaned against the car and slid down, the zipper pull scratched the paint. How should I have predicted this?

I had seat liners. I put seat protectors in. I still ended up with ruined seats, carpets (even under the edges of the mats), windows which were constantly smeared/painted with food/cracked, broken back window, scratched paint and sundry other issues. What else should I have done, in your expert opinion, to protect the car? And I should still be open to kids' ruining my investment and parents saying that it's not their responsibility to pay because it's my car?!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what? Kids don't have to destroy cars. They don't have to create filth or damage things.

You teach kids how to behave, you manage what they have access to in a vehicle and you oversee them appropriately.

This is what a nanny should be doing anyway right? So if a nanny is doing her job well then her vehicle will be treated with respect. Mine is.

Mileage reimbursement covers plenty, car detailing is great also, as are protective covers, etc...

But teaching the kids how to behave is the best protection.

Bullshit

Charming. You work with kids?

Re the pp and the list of things can do in a car, I have seat liners for the (very) rare blowout and the more frequent potty training accident. I have one child, who is now 4 1/2, who gets extremely carsick. She has a bucket in the car. She alerts well, uses the bucket, etc... About three times when she was smaller she threw up on herself. I had to wash clothes and carseat covers. It had zero impact on my vehicle. I have seat back protectors for the kicking, and I also have taught them not to kick. They get water and dry snacks to eat in the car. I need to vacuum periodically to get goldfish/pretzels/crackers out of the car.

One child pulled out the safety bar inside my 9 year old car. That is the only actual damage my car has sustained.

Kids are dirty but they do not have to be nightmarishly destructive. Intelligent management of them helps mitigate all of this. With older kids they can also learn to clean the car. Using a vaccuum, some Resolve/window cleaner, etc... is a great task for them.

What a boatload of extra work. I hope they pay you well. GL.

Hardly. It's the job - whether you're a nanny or a parent. And if you do these things your car isn't the disaster zone these other posters are carrying on about. No different than managing the mess of kids in a household, or teaching them to clean up after themselves there.

PP that you referenced with the list.

It would be great if I was allowed to decide what snacks kids have. But I wasn't.

It would be great if I was could have disciplined the child for kicking the seats, and taught him not to do it. But I couldn't because the child was only 2.5 (very big for his age), the parents caused the situations that resulted in the meltdowns and I was more concerned with calming him down before he made himself sick.

I've never known an infant or toddler who could alert that they were sick and grab a bucket. Preschoolers like the 4 year old charge you have, sure. But not at 6 months to 2, and certainly not for kids that don't get carsick but are actually feeling sick.

Seat liners don't do a thing for things that drip off of the child's foot, especially when those feet are waving around in the air.

A child leaned against the car and slid down, the zipper pull scratched the paint. How should I have predicted this?

I had seat liners. I put seat protectors in. I still ended up with ruined seats, carpets (even under the edges of the mats), windows which were constantly smeared/painted with food/cracked, broken back window, scratched paint and sundry other issues. What else should I have done, in your expert opinion, to protect the car? And I should still be open to kids' ruining my investment and parents saying that it's not their responsibility to pay because it's my car?!

I have four kids and live in a climate that has a full set of seasons including a lot of rain and mud in the springtime, grass clippings in summer, dry crumbly leaves in fall, and snow, salt and sand in winter. Never have I had the sort of damage you're talking about, despite nine years of kids traveling in our cars. You're doing something (lots of things) wrong.

Kid kicks? Incredibly easy solution: remove shoes when they're strapped into seat. Vomit? Rare, but washable. Poop blowout? You should have been ready to wipe first, have blanket handy to wrap around/under the poopy kid, and then extract from car. Poop on floor? Again, washable. Smudges on windows? There's a product called Windex. If the kids are cracking your windows, you are REALLY doing something wrong, the kids have superhuman strength, or your car is a seriously cheap POS that is absurdly fragile. Are the kids in there playing with sledgehammers or something? Rogue zipper pull: covered sufficiently by IRS rate. I don't know what the kids were eating in your car but unless it was beets with a side of blueberry juice, I don't see why you couldn't manage to clean up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IRS reimbursement is enough.

Not when your interior has been permanently damaged.
Absolutely not.
Nannies who allow this are crazy.
Cars aren't cheap, especially for a nanny.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IRS reimbursement is enough.

Not when your interior has been permanently damaged.
Absolutely not.
Nannies who allow this are crazy.
Cars aren't cheap, especially for a nanny.

give it up already. you posted the same nonsense 6x.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what? Kids don't have to destroy cars. They don't have to create filth or damage things.
...deletia...


Seat liners don't do a thing for things that drip off of the child's foot, especially when those feet are waving around in the air.

A child leaned against the car and slid down, the zipper pull scratched the paint. How should I have predicted this?

I had seat liners. I put seat protectors in. I still ended up with ruined seats, carpets (even under the edges of the mats), windows which were constantly smeared/painted with food/cracked, broken back window, scratched paint and sundry other issues. What else should I have done, in your expert opinion, to protect the car? And I should still be open to kids' ruining my investment and parents saying that it's not their responsibility to pay because it's my car?!

I have four kids and live in a climate that has a full set of seasons including a lot of rain and mud in the springtime, grass clippings in summer, dry crumbly leaves in fall, and snow, salt and sand in winter. Never have I had the sort of damage you're talking about, despite nine years of kids traveling in our cars. You're doing something (lots of things) wrong.

Kid kicks? Incredibly easy solution: remove shoes when they're strapped into seat. Vomit? Rare, but washable. Poop blowout? You should have been ready to wipe first, have blanket handy to wrap around/under the poopy kid, and then extract from car. Poop on floor? Again, washable. Smudges on windows? There's a product called Windex. If the kids are cracking your windows, you are REALLY doing something wrong, the kids have superhuman strength, or your car is a seriously cheap POS that is absurdly fragile. Are the kids in there playing with sledgehammers or something? Rogue zipper pull: covered sufficiently by IRS rate. I don't know what the kids were eating in your car but unless it was beets with a side of blueberry juice, I don't see why you couldn't manage to clean up.

Hey practical reasonable mom - I love you. We would get along!

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Anonymous wrote:You know what? Kids don't have to destroy cars. They don't have to create filth or damage things.

You teach kids how to behave, you manage what they have access to in a vehicle and you oversee them appropriately.

This is what a nanny should be doing anyway right? So if a nanny is doing her job well then her vehicle will be treated with respect. Mine is.

Mileage reimbursement covers plenty, car detailing is great also, as are protective covers, etc...

But teaching the kids how to behave is the best protection.

Bullshit

Charming. You work with kids?

Re the pp and the list of things can do in a car, I have seat liners for the (very) rare blowout and the more frequent potty training accident. I have one child, who is now 4 1/2, who gets extremely carsick. She has a bucket in the car. She alerts well, uses the bucket, etc... About three times when she was smaller she threw up on herself. I had to wash clothes and carseat covers. It had zero impact on my vehicle. I have seat back protectors for the kicking, and I also have taught them not to kick. They get water and dry snacks to eat in the car. I need to vacuum periodically to get goldfish/pretzels/crackers out of the car.

One child pulled out the safety bar inside my 9 year old car. That is the only actual damage my car has sustained.

Kids are dirty but they do not have to be nightmarishly destructive. Intelligent management of them helps mitigate all of this. With older kids they can also learn to clean the car. Using a vaccuum, some Resolve/window cleaner, etc... is a great task for them.

What a boatload of extra work. I hope they pay you well. GL.

Hardly. It's the job - whether you're a nanny or a parent. And if you do these things your car isn't the disaster zone these other posters are carrying on about. No different than managing the mess of kids in a household, or teaching them to clean up after themselves there.

PP that you referenced with the list.

It would be great if I was allowed to decide what snacks kids have. But I wasn't.

It would be great if I was could have disciplined the child for kicking the seats, and taught him not to do it. But I couldn't because the child was only 2.5 (very big for his age), the parents caused the situations that resulted in the meltdowns and I was more concerned with calming him down before he made himself sick.

I've never known an infant or toddler who could alert that they were sick and grab a bucket. Preschoolers like the 4 year old charge you have, sure. But not at 6 months to 2, and certainly not for kids that don't get carsick but are actually feeling sick.

Seat liners don't do a thing for things that drip off of the child's foot, especially when those feet are waving around in the air.

A child leaned against the car and slid down, the zipper pull scratched the paint. How should I have predicted this?

I had seat liners. I put seat protectors in. I still ended up with ruined seats, carpets (even under the edges of the mats), windows which were constantly smeared/painted with food/cracked, broken back window, scratched paint and sundry other issues. What else should I have done, in your expert opinion, to protect the car? And I should still be open to kids' ruining my investment and parents saying that it's not their responsibility to pay because it's my car?!

I have four kids and live in a climate that has a full set of seasons including a lot of rain and mud in the springtime, grass clippings in summer, dry crumbly leaves in fall, and snow, salt and sand in winter. Never have I had the sort of damage you're talking about, despite nine years of kids traveling in our cars. You're doing something (lots of things) wrong.

Kid kicks? Incredibly easy solution: remove shoes when they're strapped into seat. Vomit? Rare, but washable. Poop blowout? You should have been ready to wipe first, have blanket handy to wrap around/under the poopy kid, and then extract from car. Poop on floor? Again, washable. Smudges on windows? There's a product called Windex. If the kids are cracking your windows, you are REALLY doing something wrong, the kids have superhuman strength, or your car is a seriously cheap POS that is absurdly fragile. Are the kids in there playing with sledgehammers or something? Rogue zipper pull: covered sufficiently by IRS rate. I don't know what the kids were eating in your car but unless it was beets with a side of blueberry juice, I don't see why you couldn't manage to clean up.

I'm glad that you've never had the issues. However, I have, and I no longer use my car for transporting charges. It's that simple.

nannydebsays wrote:OP, if you ask nanny to use her car to transport your kids, you need to do the following:

-Pay IRS rate mileage reimbursement for every mile driven.
-Toss in a full detailing every 6 - 12 months.
-Allow nanny to set the rules for her car.
---If nanny only allows water for kids in her car, the kids will not starve. They can eat when they get to their destination, or before they leave home.
---If nanny has behavior rules, allow her to enforce them.
---If nanny wishes to RF longer then you do, let that happen as long as the car seats can be safely used RF.

Anonymous wrote:As an employer, I would not ask or expect nanny to use her car to transport my children. Of I were a na,by, I would refuse to use my car to transport your children. Of a parent wants their nanny to drive their children's the parents provide the automobile. If they cannot afford another car then kids stay home. Cars are expensive items and an employee should not be expected to have her car trashed for your children.

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Anonymous wrote:As an employer, I would not ask or expect nanny to use her car to transport my children. Of I were a na,by, I would refuse to use my car to transport your children. Of a parent wants their nanny to drive their children's the parents provide the automobile. If they cannot afford another car then kids stay home. Cars are expensive items and an employee should not be expected to have her car trashed for your children.

I would agree with you except for the rare instance when the nanny car is unsafe to drive for the day due to a flat or other unforeseen malfunction. Then Nanny Deb's rules apply.