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07/15/2015 19:27

Subject: What kind of help does she need?

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nannydebsays wrote:So unless she moves, she can't have a LI nanny. That means she'll need to pay more to have someone "on-call" for nights and weekends, IMO.

She's likely going to need 2 main nannies working 3.5 days on/off and a list of sitters to call if the nannies take time off for any reason.

I'd only take a job like this if I were paid for all the hours I was expected to work or be on call. So 84 hours, with OT, at about $22/hour...$2332/week per nanny to guarantee availability 24/7.

That's about 300K a year.

Just DAMN!

I'm not following the 84 hour availability per nanny. If each nanny works 3.5 days- that's right about 40 hours. And not tons of overtime. Her work place has backup kiddo care- so we are assuming that would be the first line of defense if a nanny is sick/can't cover.

She's looking at paying 25-30 an hour. By our estimates it would be about 130K a year, once we are out of the newborn phase.
It's a lot- no doubt.

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07/16/2015 16:06

Subject: What kind of help does she need?

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nannydebsays wrote:So unless she moves, she can't have a LI nanny. That means she'll need to pay more to have someone "on-call" for nights and weekends, IMO.

She's likely going to need 2 main nannies working 3.5 days on/off and a list of sitters to call if the nannies take time off for any reason.

I'd only take a job like this if I were paid for all the hours I was expected to work or be on call. So 84 hours, with OT, at about $22/hour...$2332/week per nanny to guarantee availability 24/7.

That's about 300K a year.

Just DAMN!

I'm not following the 84 hour availability per nanny. If each nanny works 3.5 days- that's right about 40 hours. And not tons of overtime. Her work place has backup kiddo care- so we are assuming that would be the first line of defense if a nanny is sick/can't cover.

She's looking at paying 25-30 an hour. By our estimates it would be about 130K a year, once we are out of the newborn phase.
It's a lot- no doubt.

It sounds as if your SIL needs 24/7 availability. That's 168 hours of coverage per week, or 2 nannies each ready to work as soon as needed 84 hours a week.

You indicated that this mom-to-be often has last minute events to attend both at night during the week and at any time on the weekends. If she wants her nannies to be ready to show up last minute or stay late last minute, IMO she needs to reserve their time by paying them for 24/7 availability. That way when she has an event from 7p - 11p on a Wednesday night, she knows her nanny on duty has agreed to stay late as needed, and her nanny knows that she shouldn't schedule anything for the 3.5 days/nights she is required to be available to work. That will save her a LOT of trouble and nanny burn out and hard feelings and turnover. As long as both nannies understand that they are paid to be available to work at the drop of a hat, they can't really fuss if they have to do a 7a - 11p shift instead of their normal 7a - 7p shift.

That's why I suggested LI at first, because then there wouldn't be any time lag if your SIL got called out to a meeting or event suddenly. With a LO nanny, she'll have to factor in travel time if nanny is not already at her apartment, which makes the "last minute" events more challenging to attend in some cases.

I also stated a low rate of pay because her nannies may be paid to be available, but not work. That, to me, means you accept a lower rate because sometimes you will simply be "on call", limiting your activities so that you can get to work asap when called in.

If she offered $18/hour with OT (translating to 106 straight time hours), she'd be paying each nanny around 2K per week. For $16/hour each nanny would earn about $1700/week. That rate of pay would keep many nannies quite happy to have to be on call with very little personal freedom 3.5 days a week.

Good luck to her as she makes her decisions!

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07/17/2015 00:59

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nannydebsays wrote:So unless she moves, she can't have a LI nanny. That means she'll need to pay more to have someone "on-call" for nights and weekends, IMO.

She's likely going to need 2 main nannies working 3.5 days on/off and a list of sitters to call if the nannies take time off for any reason.

I'd only take a job like this if I were paid for all the hours I was expected to work or be on call. So 84 hours, with OT, at about $22/hour...$2332/week per nanny to guarantee availability 24/7.

That's about 300K a year.

Just DAMN!

I'm not following the 84 hour availability per nanny. If each nanny works 3.5 days- that's right about 40 hours. And not tons of overtime. Her work place has backup kiddo care- so we are assuming that would be the first line of defense if a nanny is sick/can't cover.

She's looking at paying 25-30 an hour. By our estimates it would be about 130K a year, once we are out of the newborn phase.
It's a lot- no doubt.

Most 24 hour jobs pay either a daily rate or a salary, so it's not quite as expensive as NannyDeb is quoting. It's very rare that you see a 24 hour job (outside of newborn care) quoted as hourly. Obviously then you break down the rate into an hourly and OT rate so that everything is legal. I've worked more than one 24 hour position and made just over 100K working 3 days one week and then 4 days the next, so basically 3.5 a week. The problem she will run into is not having a bedroom for the nanny to sleep over in when said nanny is doing either really long hours or working 24 hour shifts.