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[Post New]06/17/2014 08:01
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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You're wrong, OP. it's been established again and again that nanny quality is not related to rate paid. Period.

We get that you are bitter. We get that you are trying to manipulate parents into thinking the only way to get a good nanny is to pay over market, pay every possible holiday, at least two or more weeks of vacation, health insurance, cell phone, and a generous break of 2+ plus hours while a child sleeps. You also want to surf the web, use your phone, do personal errands on the clock and not be directed in any way in the preferences of the parents. Oh, and no cameras because those might show how you really spend your day. And then there's the free food, preferably of your choice and at the expense of your MB.....

Seriously, good luck with that. You only need one family willing to buy into your nonsense. Maybe you'll find that fool. The rest of us are smarter and pay fair market wages for excellent nannies and are not fiscally irresponsible to cave into all your silly demands.


+1

How does the pay scale work in your field? Please help us understand this.
[Post New]06/17/2014 08:02
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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Just like in any other job, pay does not automatically determine how good of an employee you have. It's about having a thorough interview process and being a good judge of character.

It's ridiculous to say that nannies who charge $20/hr are more capable than nannies who charge $15/hr. All nannies are not the same, they're not robots!


Only super dumb people actually pay out more than needed, for anything.

By the same token, the real value of a service can most effectively be determined, only by s/he who needs/wants and can afford any particular skill set or qualities or results, unattainable at a cheaper price.

Just because you can't imagine what you might get from a $35/hr nanny, that you don't get from your $15/hr nanny, doesn't mean that every other parent out there, shares your view, nor is limited by your budget.

If all you want is a warm body, by all means, your nanny is completely "capable" indeed.

[Post New]06/17/2014 08:04
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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This is how it works in every other business sector of American culture:

Whoever is willing/able to offer the best compensation package, gets the best workers.

Same for nannies. (Unless you're a nonprofit/charity. That's completely different.)

Remember that "the best" compensation package, isn't always the dollar amount. It can also be in the form of other highly sought-after benefits, which vary from nanny to nanny.



Wrong. Our neighbors have an amazing nanny who loves their children dearly. She doesn't have some insane compensation package.

Don't you think they're paying her the "best" they can manage?
[Post New]06/17/2014 08:13
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Anonymous
It's like any other field - the employer who offers the best salary and compensation package get the most experienced, talented and educated employee. "Best" is a value judgement. You may not need (or be able to afford) a nanny who has a masters in early childhood education, can speak and teach French, can play and teach the piano, and has years of experience as a nanny and a teacher with excellent references but that doesn't mean you can't find a high school graduate who is vigilante about safety and loves your children.
[Post New]06/17/2014 08:18
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's like any other field - the employer who offers the best salary and compensation package get the most experienced, talented and educated employee. "Best" is a value judgement. You may not need (or be able to afford) a nanny who has a masters in early childhood education, can speak and teach French, can play and teach the piano, and has years of experience as a nanny and a teacher with excellent references but that doesn't mean you can't find a high school graduate who is vigilante about safety and loves your children.

8:02 here. I agree. To each his own. If all you need is The Babysitters Club, there's NO sense in paying for Mary Poppins!
[Post New]06/17/2014 09:49
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's like any other field - the employer who offers the best salary and compensation package get the most experienced, talented and educated employee. "Best" is a value judgement. You may not need (or be able to afford) a nanny who has a masters in early childhood education, can speak and teach French, can play and teach the piano, and has years of experience as a nanny and a teacher with excellent references but that doesn't mean you can't find a high school graduate who is vigilante about safety and loves your children.



This. Well said.
[Post New]06/17/2014 10:12
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's like any other field - the employer who offers the best salary and compensation package get the most experienced, talented and educated employee. "Best" is a value judgement. You may not need (or be able to afford) a nanny who has a masters in early childhood education, can speak and teach French, can play and teach the piano, and has years of experience as a nanny and a teacher with excellent references but that doesn't mean you can't find a high school graduate who is vigilante about safety and loves your children.



This. Well said.

Exactly. Why pay for things you don't want?
[Post New]06/17/2014 11:47
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Stop thinking there's only one poster who thinks you're crazy, OP.


+1
[Post New]06/17/2014 11:55
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Anonymous
Again, 11:47, please explain how the payscale works in your field. Does everyone earn the same money, regardless of skills, experience, education and accomplishments?
Fess up now...
[Post New]06/17/2014 20:42
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Anonymous
NP here. Your question is irrelevant, 11:55. Each nanny job is different. There is no one pay scale rate for the nanny field because there are no accepted measurable standards for excellence in the field. There is no licensing, no standards of education, no concrete set of skills that are guaranteed to be able command a particular salary. Further, nanny rates are affected by location, number of children, and other factors that may not be directly related to a particular nanny's qualifications. Also, as has been pointed out here before, nannying has a low barrier for entry, which means there are plenty of candidates with a wide variety of experiences in the marketplace.

You don't need a college education to be a nanny, although there are families who may pay more for a nanny with a BA. Experience is often worth more, but there is a ceiling to that, depending on individual career paths. And accomplishments are difficult to measure. How one family may perceive your accomplishments is likely different than how another family might perceive them.

Comparing the nanny field to any other field ignores the complexity of the nanny job and the hiring challenges inherent in the field. You also sound a little weird and not very reflective with your constant badgering about money.
[Post New]06/17/2014 21:03
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Anonymous
What badgering? Mad about $35/hr nannies?
[Post New]06/18/2014 17:23
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Again, 11:47, please explain how the payscale works in your field. Does everyone earn the same money, regardless of skills, experience, education and accomplishments?
Fess up now...


Notice the silence....
[Post New]06/19/2014 15:12
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nannydebsays

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It's not who gets the best nannies, it's who KEEPS the best nannies.

Yes, good wages and benefits help, but families who lack respect, empathy, and the ability to manage their nanny well will never KEEP the best nannies beyond a year unless the pay is so mind-bogglingly phenomenal that a nanny is willing to be the family dogsbody.

Any fool can offer the most money and find a good nanny. Not everyone can then follow through and make that nanny determined to stay at their job.
[Post New]06/27/2014 08:35
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Again, 11:47, please explain how the payscale works in your field. Does everyone earn the same money, regardless of skills, experience, education and accomplishments?
Fess up now...


Notice the silence....

11:47 was a lying fraud. Shame on her.
[Post New]06/27/2014 08:36
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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's like any other field - the employer who offers the best salary and compensation package get the most experienced, talented and educated employee. "Best" is a value judgement. You may not need (or be able to afford) a nanny who has a masters in early childhood education, can speak and teach French, can play and teach the piano, and has years of experience as a nanny and a teacher with excellent references but that doesn't mean you can't find a high school graduate who is vigilante about safety and loves your children.

8:02 here. I agree. To each his own. If all you need is The Babysitters Club, there's NO sense in paying for Mary Poppins!

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