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Anonymous wrote:This is more of a household manager type of role, and you'll definitely want to prioritize the most important elements of the job as no one is going to be exceptional in all three departments. If your children are older and you primarily need someone to keep the house clean, do the cooking, buy groceries, etc. then you could hire someone with less experience with kids; if children are younger or otherwise need a lot of care, you might have to be flexible in regards to just how wonderful the cooking is or how flawless the cleaning. I am a nanny who does a small amount of cleaning (cooking only for children) and while I do my best, I know it is not as good as a professional or experienced cleaner would be able to do. So the answer is yes, there are employees who will do all these things, but you'll want to go into the hiring process understanding what your absolute priorities are.

Someone who does "everything" is known as a doormat, and is usually not that appreciated.
Of course, sometimes families have a crisis, and then it's reasonable to do whatever is needed.


No, someone that does it all usually isn't doing the childcare part FT. This is what happens when the kids are old enough to be going to preschool daily, or kindergarten and up, they need more help with driving kids, running errands, cooking and cleaning than just one thing done. Like I said, this position gets paid much more per hour than just a nanny does. It might be combined with another position like a personal assistant that also does some errands and driving, for families with a lot of kids and where the family has money to afford both (and enough work for both) but don't actually need a separate driver, cook or nanny. Childcare is never more than 50%, but usually closer to a 30% maximum if lots of cleaning/errands is being done.

This type of work is also great for your resume, as you usually have had plenty of childcare experience and are still working with kids, plus you gain experience that you can take to getting other positions in the future like housekeeping (occasional or FT), being a personal assistant. If you work a jobs like that for the experience, you can end up finding positions like that for more high profile/wealthy families and make $70,000+ a year for 45 hrs a week.
Anonymous
PP here. Of course, they have to be paid a decent amount to start which would vary depending on the area, but would be at least $20/hr.
Anonymous
The nannies on this board think ANY job should pay $20. The ones fussing that they must be paid extra if they are not going to get to do nothing for 15-30 hours a week are just crazy. BTW, do you have any idea how crazy you sound that you feel entitled to be paid to do nothing for a large percentage of your working hours? This is the definition of lazy.

There are plenty of nannies that want to be a live in for various reasons and employers would hire them. The same goes for a nanny/housekeeper. There are plenty of nannies on the job market with great childcare AND light housekeeping/basic cooking experience. No one would hire someone who has an attitude about it or expects more than the market to get them to do it. These are also the same live out nanny posters who claim that live in positions should pay the same or more because they wouldn't like being a live in. Guess what, no one would hire a nanny for a live in job who didn't want to be a live in and needed to be bribed to do it.

The anger and rudeness of the "I will do nothing' nanny posters probably stems from the fact that can't find jobs that meet their hopes of good money and no work. They hope to find first time moms who haven't experienced the difference between a good nanny and a lazy one.
Anonymous
No, someone that does it all usually isn't doing the childcare part FT. This is what happens when the kids are old enough to be going to preschool daily, or kindergarten and up, they need more help with driving kids, running errands, cooking and cleaning than just one thing done


So what exactly does a nanny do when the kids nap four hours a day out of an eight or nine hour work day? How is it that nannies here expect to be able to run there own errands but when it comes to running family errands (while they are being paid by the family) this is somehow shorting the kids? There is huge amount of dishonesty going on here from the nannies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
No, someone that does it all usually isn't doing the childcare part FT. This is what happens when the kids are old enough to be going to preschool daily, or kindergarten and up, they need more help with driving kids, running errands, cooking and cleaning than just one thing done


So what exactly does a nanny do when the kids nap four hours a day out of an eight or nine hour work day? How is it that nannies here expect to be able to run there own errands but when it comes to running family errands (while they are being paid by the family) this is somehow shorting the kids? There is huge amount of dishonesty going on here from the nannies.



What kids nap for 4 hours out of the day? Unless they are caring for newborns, no kid is sleeping for 4 hours out of the time the nanny is there.
Anonymous
15:48 has quite an ax to grind.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The nannies on this board think ANY job should pay $20. The ones fussing that they must be paid extra if they are not going to get to do nothing for 15-30 hours a week are just crazy. BTW, do you have any idea how crazy you sound that you feel entitled to be paid to do nothing for a large percentage of your working hours? This is the definition of lazy.

There are plenty of nannies that want to be a live in for various reasons and employers would hire them. The same goes for a nanny/housekeeper. There are plenty of nannies on the job market with great childcare AND light housekeeping/basic cooking experience. No one would hire someone who has an attitude about it or expects more than the market to get them to do it. These are also the same live out nanny posters who claim that live in positions should pay the same or more because they wouldn't like being a live in. Guess what, no one would hire a nanny for a live in job who didn't want to be a live in and needed to be bribed to do it.

The anger and rudeness of the "I will do nothing' nanny posters probably stems from the fact that can't find jobs that meet their hopes of good money and no work. They hope to find first time moms who haven't experienced the difference between a good nanny and a lazy one.




You are a very tiresome troll.
Anonymous
How hard is it to find someone who does all 3? Where can i find one? any agencies known for this? Are these what house managers do?


Easy to find candidates but with any nanny search you will need to do a good amount of phone screening. Its best to cast a wide net posting your job to listservs, on-line boards like gonannies, care.com. craigs list and in print. If you are looking in the DC metro area the Gazette and the NW Current are good sources. Craig's List will give you some non-starter candidates but I found 1-2 good candidates there. Long term nannies fit your description so asking around neighbors, child's school and listservs is a good source. I wouldn't call this a household manager unless you are looking for someone to handle finances or manage other household staff. the nanny/housekeeper title will attract candidates that fit your job.
Anonymous
Incredible how easy to find candidates, but obviously not so easy to find someone you want to hire and keep for a year.
There seems to be a significant disconnect for some of our pp's here.
Anonymous
Incredible how easy to find candidates, but obviously not so easy to find someone you want to hire and keep for a year


I don't know where you are getting this impression. We've had a nanny/housekeeper for several years. She's great with the kids and the light housekeeping/basic cooking makes a positive difference in our lives. There are five other families in our neighborhood who have the same type of situations. None are paying in the $20 an hour range. Its just not the market.

If you do not want apply for a nanny/housekeeper position, don't apply. Simple. Plenty of other people will apply and do a good job.

There is no reason to attack nannies who have this type of job or employers for offering it. There also is no reason to try to mislead new employers.
nannydebsays

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OP, with a 9-month-old, yes, there is a significant amount of naptime involved in the day of a nanny working for you.

But at some point, that nap time is going to get shorter, and one nap will disappear altogether in 9 months or less.

So if you want to ask your nanny/housekeeper/cook to fill all but one hour of naptime with work, do be aware that the amount she'll be able to accomplish in the time she has now (2-3 hours a day after her 1 hour break?) is going to slowly diminish as your baby is awake more.

That means you will have to start DROPPING duties from her list as you see the nap schedule changing, and you will need to emphasize to her that you want her attention focused on baby first, with cleaning and cooking a distant second.

Anonymous
This is not a nanny/housekeeper job. It's a nanny/housekeeper/cook job, and we're not talking about older kids that don't need constant supervision. OP has a 9 month old! Expect to pay $18-$22/hour for someone truly proficient in each hat you want her to wear. Lower end is a nanny who is willing to attempt to juggle the different aspects of your job, higher end is someone with true culinary skills even training, infant experience, and housekeeping experience or a true willingness to perform this aspect of your job.
Anonymous
Communication is key here -- be clear about what you're looking for and what the priority should be. I found a person who performs all 3 duties (plus errand running), but my kids are school-aged and out of the house until about 3 pm. I posted on care.com. My full-time Nanny/Housekeeper supplements the non-Nanny time by housekeeping/cooking/errand-running. But when the kids are around, supervising their homework and engaging them in age-appropriate activities are the priority. She makes $18 gross. But she didn't have experience doing this type of work before .... she does, however, have experience teaching kids my kids' ages. ... I would pay more, but we've been honest with each other, and she's not interested in doing this long-term professionally -- but just for a year or so (which I think is a legitimate commitment).

The derogatory posts here about the type of person who is looking for this kind of help are offensive and ignorant. When you're in a busy job, it makes sense to farm out some of the duties that might free up hours to spend quality time with the fam. If my housekeeper/nanny/cook can push the vaccum around or pick up the dry cleaning, I don't have to do that on my time off and can instead do something fun with my kiddos.
Anonymous
What, she doesn't wipe you up to?
Anonymous
Up to where? Oh, you meant "up, too." As if anyone needed more evidence of your ignorance.
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