What is the going DC rate for educated& experienced Nanny to charge for 1 infant, 2 kids, nanny shar RSS feed

Anonymous
Dear Nannies, Parents and anyone else who wants to add

I am finding that the rates are SO variable in DC
and most parents don't ask about rates before the interview.

I am highly educated, and more importantly a very experienced nanny (more then 15 years)
I think the most important point is that I am very caring and a great nanny all around,
I want to get your advice about the following:

A What should the rate be for caring for 1 infant full time?
B 1 infant part time?
C One infant and one older child
D Full time nanny infant nanny share
E full time toddler share

F Should parents pay "all of the tax" besides the "Nanny tax"
How many nannies get money paid into Unemployment and Disability

G How long do you have to work full time in order to be able to use Unemployment or Disability?

I Why are so many families not paying the state and federal taxes if they are the employers? (Some are, but seems like few)


Anonymous
The rates are so variable because nannies and employers negotiate as individuals. We saw the same thing hiring a nanny. Candidates with more experience/qualifications would be asking for less than candidates with lower experience/qualifications. There are a lot of nannies on the market and not very many high paying jobs. Nannies who are recently leaving their jobs and were paid at the higher end or over market will start their job search hoping to find the same amount but after months of rejection and unemployment will start to lower their rates. You'll see them come in around $12-$15 and the others who haven't figured out the market will be asking for $16-$20. The reality is that as an employer if you start to see several good candidates at the $12-$14 rate you will drop down even if you had originally budgeted around $15-$17. Among everyone I know with a nanny, I honestly don't see a big difference in salary between 1 kid, 2 kid or even shares. We know several people in 2 infant shares with great nannies that are paid $15 and everyone else with 1-3 kids started paying between $12-$15.

If you want a higher rate then you need to have enough savings to get through a much longer search. You'll need to work in DC rather than suburbs where there are even more nannies. Your best bet is to find a naive, nervous first time mom with a high income who doesn't understand the market either. Your best bet is to go through an agency as the employers using an agency already have enough disposable income to spend 1-3K to have someone else do a search and agencies that charge a % of the 1st year's salary are incentivized to inflate the salaries to their clients.

You'll need to look up unemployment on a gov site. I believe that prior work at a job before the one you just lost within a certain time period does count toward hitting the requirements.
Anonymous
17-20 for a share.

Some charge less. Also it depends on your hours.
nannydebsays

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Anonymous wrote:A What should the rate be for caring for 1 infant full time?

12 - 18, depending on what the family has chosen to budget for childcare and it also depends on how much they value what you bring to the table.. Don't forget that even at $12/hour, OT rates after 40 hours add up quickly.

B 1 infant part time?

IMO, PT work should pay a higher hourly rate, so $14/hour and up.

C One infant and one older child

$13 - $19/hour

D Full time nanny infant nanny share

$20 - $24/hour. Each family wants to save money versus what they'd pay for a nanny solo. So, if they would be willing to pay $15/hour solo, $10/hour in a share is logical to me.

E full time toddler share

About the same as above.

F Should parents pay "all of the tax" besides the "Nanny tax"
How many nannies get money paid into Unemployment and Disability

No sure what you mean by "all of the tax". The employers are legally obligated to pay SS/Med. Most will also take out Fed/State/Local income taxes if nanny asks. I don't think many people are going to offer you a NET wage and then cover your share of all taxes for you. Paying into unemployment, etc. is part of what employers have to do to be legal.

G How long do you have to work full time in order to be able to use Unemployment or Disability?

No idea.

I Why are so many families not paying the state and federal taxes if they are the employers? (Some are, but seems like few)

IMO, there are several reasons: Nannies are willing to be tax cheats. Parents are willing to be tax cheats. No one actually ENFORCES the laws on the books about paying household staff legally, so there is no "fear factor" for parents. If some nice upper-middle/upper class folks got busted for paying under the table, and the penalties were harsh, I bet more employers would INSIST on paying legally.
Anonymous
Shares don't automatically start at $20/hr. They start closer to $18/hr
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Shares don't automatically start at $20/hr. They start closer to $18/hr

+1
Anonymous
Paying "all the tax" (as in, your portion of the taxes too, without deducting them from your paycheck) is illegal.
Anonymous
our share for two infants is 18/hr plus ot. with ot, the nanny makes an average wage of 20/hr. in retrospect our nanny does not have enough experience for this wage -- i would be happy to pay it again, but only for a super experienced one. eg, 5/10 years experience with infant shares. this nanny, i wish we started her at 16, and i think we could have found someone in that range.
Anonymous
nannydebsays doesn't live in DC, so I wouldn't expect her to know local rates.

For one infant--$12-$14/hr.

For two children--$14-$16/hr

For a share--$16-$18/hr

Never trust a nanny who gives a wide range of expected rates. It's pretty clear she doesn't understand her market.
Anonymous
Wow, I just moved here from a slightly wealthier city and I am surprised by what is being written.

So how much is daycare on average here?

This way of figuring it out, parents are paying more for daycare then to have a nanny work for a nannyshare?

Wow, that works out well for the parents
Anonymous
Once you have done 2 years of infant or toddler nanny shares, isn't that enough experience?!

I mean, really, when you think about it.

5 to 10 years of infant nanny shares in order to make 10 per family per hour!

It seems that there were not even infant nanny shares 10 years ago- they didn't even exist. Not all nannies happened to work with twins, and so I am really not sure why 20 is overpaying. Nanny pays her own health insurance, doesn't often have sick or personal days. Has to take vacation when the boss goes on vacation.

It seems as if the nanny has to make at least 20 per hour in order to buy all the extra food, medicine, and personal care that you need to care for 2 infants. It seems that mothers with twins are always having friends/ family/ babysitter help- but nannies are suppposed to do 50 hours a week with infant nanny shares.
Anonymous
Nanny salaries are driven by the market. If there is a higher supply of qualified candidates than jobs then rates are lower. No one is going to pay you $20 an hour when there are 5 equally or better qualified candidates asking for $14-$18. It doesn't matter how much you want to make. It doesn't matter how much you think the parents can afford. And it doesn't matter that you are cheaper or more expensive than a daycare option.

In fact a more logical comparison for nannies would be the salary that you would earn as a daycare worker which is the exact same skill set and arguably a much tougher job with fewer perks. Daycare workers earn between $8-$12 an hour, most are probably around $10. They don't have any of the freedom to run errands, do activities, talk on their phones or nap when the kids nap or any of the other perks that come with being a nanny. A good number of daycares even require more credentials and education than most nanny positions. Nannies have it pretty good even at $12-$14 an hour.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Nanny salaries are driven by the market. If there is a higher supply of qualified candidates than jobs then rates are lower. No one is going to pay you $20 an hour when there are 5 equally or better qualified candidates asking for $14-$18. It doesn't matter how much you want to make. It doesn't matter how much you think the parents can afford. And it doesn't matter that you are cheaper or more expensive than a daycare option.

In fact a more logical comparison for nannies would be the salary that you would earn as a daycare worker which is the exact same skill set and arguably a much tougher job with fewer perks. Daycare workers earn between $8-$12 an hour, most are probably around $10. They don't have any of the freedom to run errands, do activities, talk on their phones or nap when the kids nap or any of the other perks that come with being a nanny. A good number of daycares even require more credentials and education than most nanny positions. Nannies have it pretty good even at $12-$14 an hour.


Totally agree, I got tired of making $10 an hour which is why I nanny now. Well said
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Nanny salaries are driven by the market. If there is a higher supply of qualified candidates than jobs then rates are lower. No one is going to pay you $20 an hour when there are 5 equally or better qualified candidates asking for $14-$18. It doesn't matter how much you want to make. It doesn't matter how much you think the parents can afford. And it doesn't matter that you are cheaper or more expensive than a daycare option.

In fact a more logical comparison for nannies would be the salary that you would earn as a daycare worker which is the exact same skill set and arguably a much tougher job with fewer perks. Daycare workers earn between $8-$12 an hour, most are probably around $10. They don't have any of the freedom to run errands, do activities, talk on their phones or nap when the kids nap or any of the other perks that come with being a nanny. A good number of daycares even require more credentials and education than most nanny positions. Nannies have it pretty good even at $12-$14 an hour.


Yes daycare workers get paid less, but , at least for infants, any good daycare has 4 workers in a nursery of 8, at least in every daycare I have been in. And they all get paid $12/hr so that is actually not an equal comparison. They also have a number of assistants and can call out as they please and someone else will cover their spots. They also get legitimate lunch breaks for an hour, and some get additional breaks where they can leave the premed is and not worry about who is dark g for the child. Daycare workers also do not have to take their vacation on the family's time, don't care for sick children, don't have household chores or errands to run. And do not have to adopt each parents specific parenting philosophy, they have their own mission and philosophy that the center seems appropriate. There are lots of comparisons that can be made but the end all is both jobs are unique and is like comparing apples to oranges when it comes to rates.
Anonymous
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