Trial day pay

[Anonymous]

I've gone through a phone interview, then a face to face. The family has asked me to do a trial day and asked for 4 hours. I've never done a trial day of nannying. I've always been hired then orientated or a parent would be around here or there on my first couple of days.

I want to make sure that they know I won't be doing this for free and I don't think anyone should. So do some nannies do this for free or should they know off the top that I expect the wage quoted to me for that time? I don't plan on discussing it with them myself but intend on letting my placer at the agency know. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Is this through an agency? If so, you should let them know but will almost certainly be paid for it (if it's a reputable agency). If not you should speak with the family directly or respond with, "I'm confirming our trial day for Jan 3rd, from 12-4pm at my regular rate of $15/hr."

[Anonymous]

MB here. If I'm asking you to work, I'm planning to pay you. Confirm that with your agency - it's their place to confirm with the potential employer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MB here. If I'm asking you to work, I'm planning to pay you. Confirm that with your agency - it's their place to confirm with the potential employer.

A trial day isn't work, it's an interview. Work means MB is at her job and you are caring for the baby, that is not what is happening. Did you pay your nanny for her 1 hour face to face interview? No. Then why pay for a trial?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MB here. If I'm asking you to work, I'm planning to pay you. Confirm that with your agency - it's their place to confirm with the potential employer.

A trial day isn't work, it's an interview. Work means MB is at her job and you are caring for the baby, that is not what is happening. Did you pay your nanny for her 1 hour face to face interview? No. Then why pay for a trial?

Just in case you aren't trolling. 4 hours of my time is definitely work. Especially when I have other options. They can either pay me for that time, or hire me and shadow me my first day. If a family has an issue with paying for trial day work then it's not a family that I look forward to working for. Interviews don't last 4 hours and not only that they live 45 minutes away

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is this through an agency? If so, you should let them know but will almost certainly be paid for it (if it's a reputable agency). If not you should speak with the family directly or respond with, "I'm confirming our trial day for Jan 3rd, from 12-4pm at my regular rate of $15/hr."

Anonymous wrote:MB here. If I'm asking you to work, I'm planning to pay you. Confirm that with your agency - it's their place to confirm with the potential employer.

Thank you all for your responses this is exactly what I will do. I'll send an email in the morning to the agency and let them communicate this with the family. It's their first time hiring a nanny and I'm usual cautious with first timers.

And to the poster that said I won't be working, there are 2 kids so I'm pretty sure I'll have time alone with the oldest. Even if the kids slept the entire time I should be paid. It's time that I could be working for someone else

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MB here. If I'm asking you to work, I'm planning to pay you. Confirm that with your agency - it's their place to confirm with the potential employer.

A trial day isn't work, it's an interview. Work means MB is at her job and you are caring for the baby, that is not what is happening. Did you pay your nanny for her 1 hour face to face interview? No. Then why pay for a trial?

The nanny isn't caring for the child during the interview. During a trial day, the parent won't be sitting next to the nanny. Sometimes the parent leaves for the whole time, sometimes for just part.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MB here. If I'm asking you to work, I'm planning to pay you. Confirm that with your agency - it's their place to confirm with the potential employer.

A trial day isn't work, it's an interview. Work means MB is at her job and you are caring for the baby, that is not what is happening. Did you pay your nanny for her 1 hour face to face interview? No. Then why pay for a trial?

The nanny isn't caring for the child during the interview. During a trial day, the parent won't be sitting next to the nanny. Sometimes the parent leaves for the whole time, sometimes for just part.

Exactly. But even if they decide to sit next to me the entire time, hold my hand and not go anywhere they will be paying for the time. If this is what parents want they can interview nannies that are fresh out of highschool with no experience. I have a degree, 8 years experience, American born and every family has written letters of recommendation for me. No way I'll spend longer than an hour with a family for free after the initial interviews.

I believe it's the agency's responsibility to walk parents through this process and tell them what is expected if they want a smooth experience and the right person.

For all nannies know these people could already have their minds made up on someone else or not even really want to hire right away and just want a extra pair of hands around for that day because their usual mothers helper wasn't available. If a nanny is paid then of well to whatever choice they made and everyone can move on professionally

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MB here. If I'm asking you to work, I'm planning to pay you. Confirm that with your agency - it's their place to confirm with the potential employer.

A trial day isn't work, it's an interview. Work means MB is at her job and you are caring for the baby, that is not what is happening. Did you pay your nanny for her 1 hour face to face interview? No. Then why pay for a trial?

When you take something home from the store do you not pay for it? If you take a ride in a cab but get to the destination and it's closed do you not still owe for the ride? If you hire a tutor and your child still fails the test do you get a refund? Nannies are not interns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MB here. If I'm asking you to work, I'm planning to pay you. Confirm that with your agency - it's their place to confirm with the potential employer.

A trial day isn't work, it's an interview. Work means MB is at her job and you are caring for the baby, that is not what is happening. Did you pay your nanny for her 1 hour face to face interview? No. Then why pay for a trial?

When you take something home from the store do you not pay for it? If you take a ride in a cab but get to the destination and it's closed do you not still owe for the ride? If you hire a tutor and your child still fails the test do you get a refund? Nannies are not interns.

Your examples have nothing to do with interviewing for a job LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MB here. If I'm asking you to work, I'm planning to pay you. Confirm that with your agency - it's their place to confirm with the potential employer.

A trial day isn't work, it's an interview. Work means MB is at her job and you are caring for the baby, that is not what is happening. Did you pay your nanny for her 1 hour face to face interview? No. Then why pay for a trial?

When you take something home from the store do you not pay for it? If you take a ride in a cab but get to the destination and it's closed do you not still owe for the ride? If you hire a tutor and your child still fails the test do you get a refund? Nannies are not interns.

Your examples have nothing to do with interviewing for a job LOL

In which other position or career would this even be a question? If your boss wants you to do training through the company, you're paid for your time. If you do orientation, you're paid for your time. I can't think of a single career in which you are required to spend hours AFTER an interview proving that you are capable of doing your job, and there's still a question of whether you would be paid for those hours.

[Anonymous]

I completely agree that a nanny should be paid for a trial day. However, many, many different jobs and careers require extended, multiple interviews that are not paid.

I think you need to move away from the idea that you are being paid for your time. If the parents want to sit and chat for four hours to get to know you, I'd say they were nuts, but not that they should pay you. A nanny should get paid for a trial because she is presumably offering some value to the parents. She is essentially doing her actual job, just with no promise yet that there will be an ongoing relationship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I completely agree that a nanny should be paid for a trial day. However, many, many different jobs and careers require extended, multiple interviews that are not paid.

I think you need to move away from the idea that you are being paid for your time. If the parents want to sit and chat for four hours to get to know you, I'd say they were nuts, but not that they should pay you. A nanny should get paid for a trial because she is presumably offering some value to the parents. She is essentially doing her actual job, just with no promise yet that there will be an ongoing relationship.

10.24 here. I can agree with this. I don't have any issues with doing several interviews of 1-3 hours at a time, and I don't expect to be paid for the time because I'm not doing the job yet. The difference for a trial day (or trial period for a live-in nanny) is that the nanny IS doing the job, but frequently in a limited way, so that the parent can check in and see how the nanny handles the charge(s), additional responsibilities, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I completely agree that a nanny should be paid for a trial day. However, many, many different jobs and careers require extended, multiple interviews that are not paid.

I think you need to move away from the idea that you are being paid for your time. If the parents want to sit and chat for four hours to get to know you, I'd say they were nuts, but not that they should pay you. A nanny should get paid for a trial because she is presumably offering some value to the parents. She is essentially doing her actual job, just with no promise yet that there will be an ongoing relationship.

She is doing her future job as an interview, the parents are there watching how she interacts and works. The nannies actual job is to watch the children while the parents work, so technically a trial day means a nanny isn't doing her real job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I completely agree that a nanny should be paid for a trial day. However, many, many different jobs and careers require extended, multiple interviews that are not paid.

I think you need to move away from the idea that you are being paid for your time. If the parents want to sit and chat for four hours to get to know you, I'd say they were nuts, but not that they should pay you. A nanny should get paid for a trial because she is presumably offering some value to the parents. She is essentially doing her actual job, just with no promise yet that there will be an ongoing relationship.

She is doing her future job as an interview, the parents are there watching how she interacts and works. The nannies actual job is to watch the children while the parents work, so technically a trial day means a nanny isn't doing her real job.

I have never seen a trial day in which the parent is in the room the whole time. The moment that the parent leaves the room, it's then working and not interviewing, as the nanny is the only one supervising the child. There is no way that I would agree to a trial in which the parent was in the room the whole time, because the parent won't get an accurate picture about how the child will react to the nanny. I usually suggest that the parent observe a nanny cam while out of the room. It's the best mix of the child(ren) and I interacting like we would after hire, and the parents can go about their day, watching as much or little as they feel necessary, and I don't feel like I'm watched the whole time.