Guaranteed hours question

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't make things up, 15:05, with your imagined definitions. Guaranteed hours means what it says.

Only if you believe there are no jobs where the hours change from week to week. That's why a lot of people hire nannies, because they don't have a consistent schedule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't make things up, 15:05, with your imagined definitions. Guaranteed hours means what it says.

Only if you believe there are no jobs where the hours change from week to week. That's why a lot of people hire nannies, because they don't have a consistent schedule.

Not in my world! Guaranteed hours also include guaranteed times and days. If you can find someone open to a part time flexible hours schedule - great. I wanted an experienced and educated nanny who would be with us for a decade or more.

[Anonymous]

Any parent who wants me on-call, pays for it.
Why not? I have no interest sitting around hoping to maybe get called. My time is in demand.

[Anonymous]

For a part time nanny, OP? Ask her to "make up" snow days and you'll be looking for another nanny within the year. Especially if she is a foreign nanny. She will smile and agree with you as she starts to look for another job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there's no point in her having the "perk" of guaranteed hours if once there's a problem, you decide not to pay her for the day. then she doesn't have guaranteed hours at all.

That is true. But there are two ways to do guaranteed hours. The usual way is that you have a set schedule every week and the nanny always gets paid for those hours.

However, if the nanny always has a flexible schedule (as in, her days/times change every week), then the "guarantee" is that they will never pay for less than "x" number of hours. If they can schedule them within the range of times she works, though, then they could move them around to accommodate a snow day.

Also, you know as well as I do that not everyone follows their contract. Sucks for the nanny, but there's no HR to appeal to. She can stay or go in those cases.

I am the OP. I will pay her this time, I already said that. In our contract, I stated that will pay for 24 hours a week if we are away and don't need her. I said nothing about the weather. I am myself a contractor and work PT from home PT out of the home, the schedule changes weekly. I don't get paid for the hours I don't work, so no guaranteed hours in my case. The nanny works based on my schedule and based on her needs. She wanted a long weekend and asked the Friday and Monday to be off, I accommodated her. With the snow days today and tomorrow I am losing tons of time and will need to catch up, hence the idea of asking her to come in next week.

I don't understand the whole "nanny resentment" sentiment. Some people will resent anything and everything and I don't want them for a nanny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there's no point in her having the "perk" of guaranteed hours if once there's a problem, you decide not to pay her for the day. then she doesn't have guaranteed hours at all.

That is true. But there are two ways to do guaranteed hours. The usual way is that you have a set schedule every week and the nanny always gets paid for those hours.

However, if the nanny always has a flexible schedule (as in, her days/times change every week), then the "guarantee" is that they will never pay for less than "x" number of hours. If they can schedule them within the range of times she works, though, then they could move them around to accommodate a snow day.

Also, you know as well as I do that not everyone follows their contract. Sucks for the nanny, but there's no HR to appeal to. She can stay or go in those cases.

I am the OP. I will pay her this time, I already said that. In our contract, I stated that will pay for 24 hours a week if we are away and don't need her. I said nothing about the weather. I am myself a contractor and work PT from home PT out of the home, the schedule changes weekly. I don't get paid for the hours I don't work, so no guaranteed hours in my case. The nanny works based on my schedule and based on her needs. She wanted a long weekend and asked the Friday and Monday to be off, I accommodated her. With the snow days today and tomorrow I am losing tons of time and will need to catch up, hence the idea of asking her to come in next week.

I don't understand the whole "nanny resentment" sentiment. Some people will resent anything and everything and I don't want them for a nanny.

Perhaps your error here was not quite understanding the "guaranteed hours" concept. Sounds like your sitter has a very unusual situation that works for you both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's no WFH with my job. So if there's any sort of inclement weather where I can't drive to work, I have to makeup the hours. My current nanny is great and agreed to work an extra 1-2 hours a day to technically makeup her hours so that I can makeup mine too.

I'm at work today btw. Nanny said she was perfectly comfortable driving in and to not worry. She's so awesome.

She is but you’re not! I am a nanny who will leave very early and drive in inclement weather, but when the roads are so bad that you’re not working and I’m not required to come in, I am not making up those hours free of charge. I can’t believe that you really find this acceptable. And again, I rarely come in late or stay home due to weather, but it is standard practice in our field to not have to make up those hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:there's no point in her having the "perk" of guaranteed hours if once there's a problem, you decide not to pay her for the day. then she doesn't have guaranteed hours at all.

That is true. But there are two ways to do guaranteed hours. The usual way is that you have a set schedule every week and the nanny always gets paid for those hours.

However, if the nanny always has a flexible schedule (as in, her days/times change every week), then the "guarantee" is that they will never pay for less than "x" number of hours. If they can schedule them within the range of times she works, though, then they could move them around to accommodate a snow day.

Also, you know as well as I do that not everyone follows their contract. Sucks for the nanny, but there's no HR to appeal to. She can stay or go in those cases.

I am the OP. I will pay her this time, I already said that. In our contract, I stated that will pay for 24 hours a week if we are away and don't need her. I said nothing about the weather. I am myself a contractor and work PT from home PT out of the home, the schedule changes weekly. I don't get paid for the hours I don't work, so no guaranteed hours in my case. The nanny works based on my schedule and based on her needs. She wanted a long weekend and asked the Friday and Monday to be off, I accommodated her. With the snow days today and tomorrow I am losing tons of time and will need to catch up, hence the idea of asking her to come in next week.

I don't understand the whole "nanny resentment" sentiment. Some people will resent anything and everything and I don't want them for a nanny.

Are you sure you don't have that nanny now? Resentment builds when anyone feels taken advantage of or pushed around in any job in any field. Maybe your nanny doesn't need the money she earns from your job or maybe she doesn't have a complicated life outside of your job (no children of her own, no family obligations, no second job, etc.)

I don't ever argue on this forum. Try it your way, OP. If you lose this nanny, you'll know the next time. If she is fine with it, we were wrong and you were right and you'll save money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no WFH with my job. So if there's any sort of inclement weather where I can't drive to work, I have to makeup the hours. My current nanny is great and agreed to work an extra 1-2 hours a day to technically makeup her hours so that I can makeup mine too.

I'm at work today btw. Nanny said she was perfectly comfortable driving in and to not worry. She's so awesome.

She is but you’re not! I am a nanny who will leave very early and drive in inclement weather, but when the roads are so bad that you’re not working and I’m not required to come in, I am not making up those hours free of charge. I can’t believe that you really find this acceptable. And again, I rarely come in late or stay home due to weather, but it is standard practice in our field to not have to make up those hours.

My nanny is the one that suggested the makeup hours. She's been with us for 3 years now she's flexible with us and we're flexible with her. Guess that makes me a terrible person.