"Domestic Worker Laws" in NY, MD, CA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes I have sick leave and I offer it to my nanny too. I also would not disagree with making a certain number of hours of sick leave legally required for all workers. (Again I already offer this to my employees so I agree it is good to offer.) What I object to is requiring just nanny employers to give sick leave and no other employers - why is that right?

Who here said anyone should be excluded? No one. Your silly argument is ridiculous and you know it.

[Anonymous]

The focus is on domestic workers because those are often some of the most vulnerable and exploited. There have been a handful of cases in Maryland involving slave-like conditions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The focus is on domestic workers because those are often some of the most vulnerable and exploited. There have been a handful of cases in Maryland involving slave-like conditions.

This.

[Anonymous]

So police should crack down on those holding people in "slave like conditions". This is surely already against the law and 99.9% of people would not object to this. But that is not really the focus of the laws. The focus is to use the law as a defacto bargaining agreement to get benefits like paid sick leave that other hourly workers do not get. To point to the small number of nannies being really taken advantage of (vs the larger number who simply do not have the types of benefits they would understandably like to have) is just an effort to muddle the issue. I agree the former is a problem and should be addressed but again - pretty sure it is already against the law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So police should crack down on those holding people in "slave like conditions". This is surely already against the law and 99.9% of people would not object to this. But that is not really the focus of the laws. The focus is to use the law as a defacto bargaining agreement to get benefits like paid sick leave that other hourly workers do not get. To point to the small number of nannies being really taken advantage of (vs the larger number who simply do not have the types of benefits they would understandably like to have) is just an effort to muddle the issue. I agree the former is a problem and should be addressed but again - pretty sure it is already against the law.

Please clarify your last sentence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes I have sick leave and I offer it to my nanny too. I also would not disagree with making a certain number of hours of sick leave legally required for all workers. (Again I already offer this to my employees so I agree it is good to offer.) What I object to is requiring just nanny employers to give sick leave and no other employers - why is that right?

Who here said anyone should be excluded? No one. Your silly argument is ridiculous and you know it.

Doing the right thing begins with you and me. Rome wasn't built in a day.

[Anonymous]

To request to clarify - holding someone in slave like conditions is against the law already. Probably multiple laws

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To request to clarify - holding someone in slave like conditions is against the law already. Probably multiple laws

Yes, slavery has been legally outlawed in the US, even through it still exists behind locked doors where the women are not allowed out.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

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Pardon?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's just trying to get traffic to her site. Here is a link to the official one:

http://www6.montgomerycountymd.gov/ocptmpl.asp?url=/content/ocp/domestic/contract.asp

Thank you, PP, for the link. It works perfectly.
It is an excellent resource for the all to use. The contract is even is available in French and Spanish.

Click "Domestic Workers" on the left.
It has a darn good contract.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's just trying to get traffic to her site. Here is a link to the official one:

http://www6.montgomerycountymd.gov/ocptmpl.asp?url=/content/ocp/domestic/contract.asp

Thank you, PP, for the link. It works perfectly.
It is an excellent resource for the all to use. The contract is even is available in French and Spanish.

Click "Domestic Workers" on the left.
It has a darn good contract.

It doesn't say vacation or sick leave is required by law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's just trying to get traffic to her site. Here is a link to the official one:

http://www6.montgomerycountymd.gov/ocptmpl.asp?url=/content/ocp/domestic/contract.asp

Thank you, PP, for the link. It works perfectly.
It is an excellent resource for the all to use. The contract is even is available in French and Spanish.

Click "Domestic Workers" on the left.
It has a darn good contract.

It doesn't say vacation or sick leave is required by law.

That's because it's not required by law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She's just trying to get traffic to her site. Here is a link to the official one:

http://www6.montgomerycountymd.gov/ocptmpl.asp?url=/content/ocp/domestic/contract.asp

Thank you, PP, for the link. It works perfectly.
It is an excellent resource for the all to use. The contract is even is available in French and Spanish.

Click "Domestic Workers" on the left.
It has a darn good contract.

Good link above. The INA should look into it and learn a few things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The focus is on domestic workers because those are often some of the most vulnerable and exploited. There have been a handful of cases in Maryland involving slave-like conditions.

+1000. Additionally, domestic workers need special protections because they typically work as the sole employee, with no other workers to join together with to collectively bargain.

Further, if PP feels that domestic worker law are "unfair" because it treats one classification of workers differently, then this is really reason for her to support domestic worker laws. Domestic workers have been excluded from a host of basic workplace protections: http://www.domesticworkers.org/sites/default/files/Domestic_Worker_Employment_Protections_Federal.pdf

To say domestic workers somehow receive some special leg up is laughable.