my MB trades me to her friends like shes loaning out a toaster??

[Anonymous]

My MB will schedule me to come and then call me and say she doesn't need me but I am to go to her friends house and watch their kids. I get paid the same rate and sometimes its more kids. IShe doesn't even ask if I mind or if Ican, just offers me up like I'm her property to give away. I was talking to her neighbor today and she mentioned my fall schedule coming up and said I wasn't really available to take on a new family. She then called me a few hours later and said that she had talked to my MB and she said she didn't need me as much in the fall and I would go to the neighbors. Wtf. I would like to know what to say to MB. Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous]

"I am giving you my 4 weeks notice"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"I am giving you my 4 weeks notice"

MB here. I agree w/ this advice. Just find another job if possible.

[Anonymous]

I think you know the answer, OP. Tell your employer that this "arrangement" is not acceptable anymore and give your notice.

[Anonymous]

Um, fuck that noise... I would quit ASAP! You are a human not cattle

[Anonymous]

Loaning out a toaster? Who does that? Sorry, it just struck me as funny.

[Anonymous]

Personally this wouldn't bother me. Obviously your MB likes you enough to refer you to her friends and wants to make sure you get hours and pay. Aside from her specifically asking you if this is ok, I don't see the problem. If this doesn't work for you, then be blunt and tell her you'd rather have no pay than go work for her friends. Then tell the friends you charge $X base rate and $Y for each additional kid unless you just aren't interested in working for them in which case you just tell them no because you're looking for another job and don't know what your fall schedule will be. I think you're being intentionally difficult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Personally this wouldn't bother me. Obviously your MB likes you enough to refer you to her friends and wants to make sure you get hours and pay. Aside from her specifically asking you if this is ok, I don't see the problem. If this doesn't work for you, then be blunt and tell her you'd rather have no pay than go work for her friends. Then tell the friends you charge $X base rate and $Y for each additional kid unless you just aren't interested in working for them in which case you just tell them no because you're looking for another job and don't know what your fall schedule will be. I think you're being intentionally difficult.

You are a horse's patriot, PP.

[nannydebsays]

MB, I wanted to talk to you about all the work I have been doing for your friends in the neighborhood. I so appreciate the trust you have in me that makes you comfortable offering my services to your friends. However, I would like a little more control over my schedule. I'd like to suggest that we figure out how many hours a week you will need my services, and that we determine a schedule one month ahead. Then I will know when I am free to work elsewhere. (Of course, I would prefer to have guaranteed number of hours here, and be paid for those hours regardless of your needs.)"

If you want to work, then you can say something about "I am happy to help your neighbors when I am not needed here. However, I want to speak with them directly to set up a schedule surrounding your needs. Naturally, giving me your schedule 1 month in advance will allow me to block out those specific times for you and then supplement with work for the neighbors!"

If you don't want to work , then ask for the hours to be set in advance for her, and choose to find other work when she isn't needing your services.

Of course, you will also have to learn to say, "No, I cannot work for you tomorrow MB. Tomorrow was not listed in your advance schedule, and I am working for the Smith family that day." "No, MB, I cannot watch your kids as well as the Smith kids. I understand you have had a scheduling glitch, but I have committed those hours to the Smith family."

I absolutely get your aggravation. You can make this work if you take control back from your MB. Or you can find another position and give the neighborhood notice. Good luck!

[Anonymous]

nannydebsays wrote:MB, I wanted to talk to you about all the work I have been doing for your friends in the neighborhood. I so appreciate the trust you have in me that makes you comfortable offering my services to your friends. However, I would like a little more control over my schedule. I'd like to suggest that we figure out how many hours a week you will need my services, and that we determine a schedule one month ahead. Then I will know when I am free to work elsewhere. (Of course, I would prefer to have guaranteed number of hours here, and be paid for those hours regardless of your needs.)"

If you want to work, then you can say something about "I am happy to help your neighbors when I am not needed here. However, I want to speak with them directly to set up a schedule surrounding your needs. Naturally, giving me your schedule 1 month in advance will allow me to block out those specific times for you and then supplement with work for the neighbors!"

If you don't want to work , then ask for the hours to be set in advance for her, and choose to find other work when she isn't needing your services.

Of course, you will also have to learn to say, "No, I cannot work for you tomorrow MB. Tomorrow was not listed in your advance schedule, and I am working for the Smith family that day." "No, MB, I cannot watch your kids as well as the Smith kids. I understand you have had a scheduling glitch, but I have committed those hours to the Smith family."

I absolutely get your aggravation. You can make this work if you take control back from your MB. Or you can find another position and give the neighborhood notice. Good luck!

Honestly I don't see the original problem OP has... Let's say she has a 5 day a week schedule with MB, and then suddenly MB has her working for other families for 2 of those days like she says above, what is the problem? She isn't being asked to work more hours or last minute hours or unscheduled hours... She is getting the same pay. I kind of would like something like this to happen to me. A little variety would be a welcome thing.

I mean I can understand if it was like "nanny, the neighbor is having a party Saturday, I know you don't work Saturdays but I've loaned you to her for the day, she will pay you." That's not cool. But as the OP wrote it I really just don't see the problem.

[Anonymous]

Here's what you do:
1. Line up your next job.
2. Say good-bye as soon as you get your paycheck.
3. Learn to say "no thank-you" next time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

nannydebsays wrote:MB, I wanted to talk to you about all the work I have been doing for your friends in the neighborhood. I so appreciate the trust you have in me that makes you comfortable offering my services to your friends. However, I would like a little more control over my schedule. I'd like to suggest that we figure out how many hours a week you will need my services, and that we determine a schedule one month ahead. Then I will know when I am free to work elsewhere. (Of course, I would prefer to have guaranteed number of hours here, and be paid for those hours regardless of your needs.)"

If you want to work, then you can say something about "I am happy to help your neighbors when I am not needed here. However, I want to speak with them directly to set up a schedule surrounding your needs. Naturally, giving me your schedule 1 month in advance will allow me to block out those specific times for you and then supplement with work for the neighbors!"

If you don't want to work , then ask for the hours to be set in advance for her, and choose to find other work when she isn't needing your services.

Of course, you will also have to learn to say, "No, I cannot work for you tomorrow MB. Tomorrow was not listed in your advance schedule, and I am working for the Smith family that day." "No, MB, I cannot watch your kids as well as the Smith kids. I understand you have had a scheduling glitch, but I have committed those hours to the Smith family."

I absolutely get your aggravation. You can make this work if you take control back from your MB. Or you can find another position and give the neighborhood notice. Good luck!

Honestly I don't see the original problem OP has... Let's say she has a 5 day a week schedule with MB, and then suddenly MB has her working for other families for 2 of those days like she says above, what is the problem? She isn't being asked to work more hours or last minute hours or unscheduled hours... She is getting the same pay. I kind of would like something like this to happen to me. A little variety would be a welcome thing.

I mean I can understand if it was like "nanny, the neighbor is having a party Saturday, I know you don't work Saturdays but I've loaned you to her for the day, she will pay you." That's not cool. But as the OP wrote it I really just don't see the problem.

Though the nature of the work is the same the relationship is not. I know my MB will pay on time, increase my pay if the family expands, and I just "know" her and her kids and her husband and the grandparents. However, that does not get to the heart of the matter which is that an employee is NOT property like a tool you can just loan out to a friend. They are equal parties in the contract. Can OP ask MB to take care of someone else's kids at the end of the day? Of course not. OP can not be loaned out anymore than MB can because they do not belong to one another. This MB is treating herself like a madam and OP like one of her whores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

nannydebsays wrote:MB, I wanted to talk to you about all the work I have been doing for your friends in the neighborhood. I so appreciate the trust you have in me that makes you comfortable offering my services to your friends. However, I would like a little more control over my schedule. I'd like to suggest that we figure out how many hours a week you will need my services, and that we determine a schedule one month ahead. Then I will know when I am free to work elsewhere. (Of course, I would prefer to have guaranteed number of hours here, and be paid for those hours regardless of your needs.)"

If you want to work, then you can say something about "I am happy to help your neighbors when I am not needed here. However, I want to speak with them directly to set up a schedule surrounding your needs. Naturally, giving me your schedule 1 month in advance will allow me to block out those specific times for you and then supplement with work for the neighbors!"

If you don't want to work , then ask for the hours to be set in advance for her, and choose to find other work when she isn't needing your services.

Of course, you will also have to learn to say, "No, I cannot work for you tomorrow MB. Tomorrow was not listed in your advance schedule, and I am working for the Smith family that day." "No, MB, I cannot watch your kids as well as the Smith kids. I understand you have had a scheduling glitch, but I have committed those hours to the Smith family."

I absolutely get your aggravation. You can make this work if you take control back from your MB. Or you can find another position and give the neighborhood notice. Good luck!

Honestly I don't see the original problem OP has... Let's say she has a 5 day a week schedule with MB, and then suddenly MB has her working for other families for 2 of those days like she says above, what is the problem? She isn't being asked to work more hours or last minute hours or unscheduled hours... She is getting the same pay. I kind of would like something like this to happen to me. A little variety would be a welcome thing.

I mean I can understand if it was like "nanny, the neighbor is having a party Saturday, I know you don't work Saturdays but I've loaned you to her for the day, she will pay you." That's not cool. But as the OP wrote it I really just don't see the problem.

The problem is that the nanny should be free to choose her own employers! It's not up to her MB to decide who she will or will not work for. Presumably the nanny interviewed with, and accepted a job offer from her MB, not anyone else. It's crazy to assume that if the nanny is OK working for you, she'll be OK working for anyone, anywhere. You cannot farm out other people's services without asking them!!!

[Anonymous]

Cracking up that someone doesn't get why this is a problem. Every family is different. They are not interchangeable. Working for different families requires different things of a nanny and she may wish to set different expectations/rates accordingly. Furthermore, I am a NANNY because I enjoy building a relationship with my employers and working together for the good of the children, because I am selective in who I work for, and because I want stability in when and how much I am paid and predictability regarding job requirements. If I didn't care about the relationships, wasn't picky about taking jobs and didn't want stability, I would just work as a temp/backup nanny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cracking up that someone doesn't get why this is a problem. Every family is different. They are not interchangeable. Working for different families requires different things of a nanny and she may wish to set different expectations/rates accordingly. Furthermore, I am a NANNY because I enjoy building a relationship with my employers and working together for the good of the children, because I am selective in who I work for, and because I want stability in when and how much I am paid and predictability regarding job requirements. If I didn't care about the relationships, wasn't picky about taking jobs and didn't want stability, I would just work as a temp/backup nanny.

Right. A nanny isn't property you loan out.