Live in nanny

[Anonymous]

It’s my understanding that if you are “live in” you don’t get paid overtime. Isn’t that correct? Also, a question like how did the trial sleep is kind of normal don’t you think? A response like I don’t know I was sleeping is intentionally rude. Having said that, if you don’t like the arrangement, find another family, there are plenty that are looking for Nani’s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s my understanding that if you are “live in” you don’t get paid overtime. Isn’t that correct? Also, a question like how did the trial sleep is kind of normal don’t you think? A response like I don’t know I was sleeping is intentionally rude. Having said that, if you don’t like the arrangement, find another family, there are plenty that are looking for Nani’s.

It depends on the location and arrangement. There is no federal requirement to pay overtime for live-in domestic help, but there are states (including MD) and cities which are more stringent. Also, a nanny can negotiate for whatever she wants in her contract.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s my understanding that if you are “live in” you don’t get paid overtime. Isn’t that correct? Also, a question like how did the trial sleep is kind of normal don’t you think? A response like I don’t know I was sleeping is intentionally rude. Having said that, if you don’t like the arrangement, find another family, there are plenty that are looking for Nani’s.

Whether the nanny was rude or not doesn't matter. She shouldn't have the monitor overnight, and she shouldn't be asked how the children slept. Attitude when they woke would be fine. This family is trying to get a ton of free work out of her.

[Anonymous]

This is OP,

I have spoke with the agency and they just told me it’s the reason they don’t encourage too much flexibilities from the Nannie’s and that the banging hours are illegal now. I will have a sitting with the family this week. We came from vacation and I had the monitor with their kids and their friends children not even a “Thank You” from that family. Also, I’m wondering how salutation works with people. In my opinion, when you come to a place you have to say “ Good morning or Hello” when people come to you, they’re the one who greet you. When the family or their friends meet me in the living room or kitchen they don’t greet me. They just talk to the children which I found very rude. I will definitely have a talk with them because it’s getting un respectful. I’m already looking for a new position because they want to take advantage of me. At our trial and contract it’s says they travel often without me and they never required me to stay to their house which I wouldn’t take the job. I usually charge $100 to $150 at night when I travel with families. Also, the families gave me $76- $100 stipend for my food. Therefore, it become more expensive for them to travel with me than giving me off. The agency says it’s their choice to travel so they need to pay me.
Sorry for the typos!
Thank you

[Anonymous]

OP, Good that you’re leaving this family. They have zero respect for you. Just make sure you have your new contract signed by both parents. Current employers othen get vindictive when you give notice, so they’ll often fire the nanny on the spot.
If they have any decency, they’ll give you a proper reference letter. Be sure to get one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, Good that you’re leaving this family. They have zero respect for you. Just make sure you have your new contract signed by both parents. Current employers othen get vindictive when you give notice, so they’ll often fire the nanny on the spot.
If they have any decency, they’ll give you a proper reference letter. Be sure to get one.

It’s okay that they likely won’t give a reference. The agency can verify that the family broke the contract repeatedly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is OP,

I have spoke with the agency and they just told me it’s the reason they don’t encourage too much flexibilities from the Nannie’s and that the banging hours are illegal now. I will have a sitting with the family this week. We came from vacation and I had the monitor with their kids and their friends children not even a “Thank You” from that family. Also, I’m wondering how salutation works with people. In my opinion, when you come to a place you have to say “ Good morning or Hello” when people come to you, they’re the one who greet you. When the family or their friends meet me in the living room or kitchen they don’t greet me. They just talk to the children which I found very rude. I will definitely have a talk with them because it’s getting un respectful. I’m already looking for a new position because they want to take advantage of me. At our trial and contract it’s says they travel often without me and they never required me to stay to their house which I wouldn’t take the job. I usually charge $100 to $150 at night when I travel with families. Also, the families gave me $76- $100 stipend for my food. Therefore, it become more expensive for them to travel with me than giving me off. The agency says it’s their choice to travel so they need to pay me.
Sorry for the typos!
Thank you

You’re mixing contract details (hours, food provisions) and respect. While respect is important, it’s not the same as the things they’re ignoring or adding to the contract.

[Anonymous]

I always thought that live-ins didn’t get paid overtime. Interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a live in nanny and I work 12 h a day for 60 hours a week. I’m paid one and half after the 44 hours. I would say that my pay is ok for the DC area with overtime. However, I asked a higher salary but we agreed to my current salary because the family said they travel often and I will accompany them twice or three times a years. We agreed from 7am to 7pm but sometimes the kids sleep until 8am and I make sure to put them in bed at 8pm to make my full hours. I told them that I’m flexible when they have to go out because I’m home but they not paying me for that and they go out between 2 and 4 times a week. For now, I told them it’s fine since it’s the winter and I don’t go out. I check on the camera until 11pm or midnight and I turn my phone off. Now, they wanted to give me a phone since I turn my phone off and I told them that I’m not working overnight so I don’t need their phone. But, they insisted so I took it. Now, ai just see that they expect me to wake up at night when the kids wake up. Each morning, they asked me how the kids slept my answer always I don’t know I was sleeping. Upfront, I told them a live in nanny has a set schedule and no overnight and she needs to be paid overtime. I don’t know how to be very firm and stand for myself without been rude but I don’t like the idea how they want to take advantage of me. I don’t want to burn out. I’m flexible because the kids go to school 3 times a week for 3 hours. Therefore, I rest at least 2 days because I cook for them every other days basically. I need some advices please! Sorry for the typo I’m so frustrated and also I want to call the agency that found me the position

It sounds like you’re unhappy for whatever reason. The reason actually doesn’t matter because you’re clearly not fit so who cares wife just got out.

I would quit. The family will be fine. They will find someone else who is a better fit for them. And you’ll be fine, too. Just make sure to be really clear about your demands before you start working with another family.

[Anonymous]

I have been a Nanny for 20 plus years. Never be okay w a family taking advantage of you like that. Keep a record of your hours and have them sign in every night or morning after if they’re doing this to you, and DEFINITELY Call the agency immediately and let them know this is going on. They can advise you on what to do. I am very surprised there was not a contract negotiated and written up and signed by both parties before your job started. That should always be in place. And unfortunately no, if you did not get it in writing that you agreed to set hours then don’t expect them to stick to that. Not all Nannies work set hours in the day, some work throughout the day then they are totaled up, some include overnight availability, some agree to date nights and weekends on occasion. All this should have been discussed before hiring. Expectations of both parties. If you feel like you’re overstepping boundaries or worried about being fired and expected to move out on short notice without a place to go, this is exactly why you need contracts. You are not overstepping to ask about your financial stability and job requirements & pay. Call the agency, get their help.

[Anonymous]

Yes, your Nanny Family is most definitely taking full advantage of you which is outrageous!!

Like another person stated, they likely gave you the initial eight days off so they could establish “goodwill.”
What a joke!
They conned you that is what they did.

It appears they had a master plan to con you from the get-go.
You should NOT be responsible for their friend’s children.
They needed to have your consent before leaving them in your care AND they needed to fully compensate you for that as well!

I would be so done w/these hustlers at this point.

Definitely lodge a full-fledged complaint w/the Nanny agency pronto.

OP - Do you have anyone that you can stay with in the interim until you can find another position??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I always thought that live-ins didn’t get paid overtime. Interesting.

Depends on the jurisdiction. In any case. A nanny must be paid for all hours worked and if you have her monitoring kids overnight then you pay for all those hours.

See what happens when you aren't used to thinking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a live in nanny and I work 12 h a day for 60 hours a week. I’m paid one and half after the 44 hours. I would say that my pay is ok for the DC area with overtime. However, I asked a higher salary but we agreed to my current salary because the family said they travel often and I will accompany them twice or three times a years. We agreed from 7am to 7pm but sometimes the kids sleep until 8am and I make sure to put them in bed at 8pm to make my full hours. I told them that I’m flexible when they have to go out because I’m home but they not paying me for that and they go out between 2 and 4 times a week. For now, I told them it’s fine since it’s the winter and I don’t go out. I check on the camera until 11pm or midnight and I turn my phone off. Now, they wanted to give me a phone since I turn my phone off and I told them that I’m not working overnight so I don’t need their phone. But, they insisted so I took it. Now, ai just see that they expect me to wake up at night when the kids wake up. Each morning, they asked me how the kids slept my answer always I don’t know I was sleeping. Upfront, I told them a live in nanny has a set schedule and no overnight and she needs to be paid overtime. I don’t know how to be very firm and stand for myself without been rude but I don’t like the idea how they want to take advantage of me. I don’t want to burn out. I’m flexible because the kids go to school 3 times a week for 3 hours. Therefore, I rest at least 2 days because I cook for them every other days basically. I need some advices please! Sorry for the typo I’m so frustrated and also I want to call the agency that found me the position

In your new job stop bring so generous. Work to what is in your contract and do not volunteer or accept job creep

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, your Nanny Family is most definitely taking full advantage of you which is outrageous!!

Like another person stated, they likely gave you the initial eight days off so they could establish “goodwill.”
What a joke!
They conned you that is what they did.

It appears they had a master plan to con you from the get-go.
You should NOT be responsible for their friend’s children.
They needed to have your consent before leaving them in your care AND they needed to fully compensate you for that as well!

I would be so done w/these hustlers at this point.

Definitely lodge a full-fledged complaint w/the Nanny agency pronto.

OP - Do you have anyone that you can stay with in the interim until you can find another position??

Con the nanny? Master Plan? Who writes these ridiculous comments? Yes families hire nannies to Con them and then give them 8 full days of paid vacation on top of their paid vacation?

Everything has a dollar value. The value of the 8 extra days you got at the 12 hours a day is 96 hours you already got paid that you didn't work. This amount to $2,000 pay without work at $20/hr or $2,400 at $25.

It means they had much more good will than you. They paid you $2,400 of paid unworked hours, and you expect them to pay you for an extra few hours of work you did here and there for them or their friends' child? You count the minutes and hours but you expect them not to? They are gracious enough to give you extra paid time off, while you're not even on call and can pick up and extra shift of work on top of it. And you still complain? It seems like you did't have good will and it's better if you change your job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, your Nanny Family is most definitely taking full advantage of you which is outrageous!!

Like another person stated, they likely gave you the initial eight days off so they could establish “goodwill.”
What a joke!
They conned you that is what they did.

It appears they had a master plan to con you from the get-go.
You should NOT be responsible for their friend’s children.
They needed to have your consent before leaving them in your care AND they needed to fully compensate you for that as well!

I would be so done w/these hustlers at this point.

Definitely lodge a full-fledged complaint w/the Nanny agency pronto.

OP - Do you have anyone that you can stay with in the interim until you can find another position??

Con the nanny? Master Plan? Who writes these ridiculous comments? Yes families hire nannies to Con them and then give them 8 full days of paid vacation on top of their paid vacation?

Everything has a dollar value. The value of the 8 extra days you got at the 12 hours a day is 96 hours you already got paid that you didn't work. This amount to $2,000 pay without work at $20/hr or $2,400 at $25.

It means they had much more good will than you. They paid you $2,400 of paid unworked hours, and you expect them to pay you for an extra few hours of work you did here and there for them or their friends' child? You count the minutes and hours but you expect them not to? They are gracious enough to give you extra paid time off, while you're not even on call and can pick up and extra shift of work on top of it. And you still complain? It seems like you did't have good will and it's better if you change your job.

OP, ignore the above idiotic response.

Nothing they wrote contains even an ounce of sense…..