Asking for historical financial records?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just pull a credit report?

Is this a federal job with a national security clearance?

They are, apparently, which is why I wonder why it matters. DH seems to think it’s some sort of “test” to see if he will actually comply or instead attempt to side-step it. It’s a job in state government, though not financial.


That's crazy. A Top Secret security clearance doesn't require one to turn over this level of documentation - they just pull credit reports, which show active and closed lines of credits, balances, etc.


Depends on where you are working with that clearance. Some agencies require an annual report of all bank and credit card statements.

What in the world does this tell them that a typical background check/credit report doesn’t? That’s baffling to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just pull a credit report?

Is this a federal job with a national security clearance?

They are, apparently, which is why I wonder why it matters. DH seems to think it’s some sort of “test” to see if he will actually comply or instead attempt to side-step it. It’s a job in state government, though not financial.


That's crazy. A Top Secret security clearance doesn't require one to turn over this level of documentation - they just pull credit reports, which show active and closed lines of credits, balances, etc.


Depends on where you are working with that clearance. Some agencies require an annual report of all bank and credit card statements.

What in the world does this tell them that a typical background check/credit report doesn’t? That’s baffling to me.


If you are living above your means
Anonymous
I have to submit a financial disclosure form annually and for clearance they pulled my credit and inquired about any debts. They want to make sure you’re not compromised based on debt.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just pull a credit report?

Is this a federal job with a national security clearance?

They are, apparently, which is why I wonder why it matters. DH seems to think it’s some sort of “test” to see if he will actually comply or instead attempt to side-step it. It’s a job in state government, though not financial.


That's crazy. A Top Secret security clearance doesn't require one to turn over this level of documentation - they just pull credit reports, which show active and closed lines of credits, balances, etc.


Depends on where you are working with that clearance. Some agencies require an annual report of all bank and credit card statements.

What in the world does this tell them that a typical background check/credit report doesn’t? That’s baffling to me.


If you are living above your means


Credit report would show this - it shows current balance, size of credit line, and payment history/delinquencies. That's all you need to determine whether an individual is "living about their means."

The only reason to ask for actual statements is to parse your individual spending transactions. But that's akin to asking to see your text message history. In other words, this is way beyond what a background investigator can ask for and would require a warrant (likely as part of a criminal investigation).

I have to file detailed transaction-level financial disclosures if I'm making investments in stocks, bonds, derivatives, list out all my loan balances, etc. But that's to ensure I'm complying with conflict of interest laws.

Let us know which security clearance & agency requires a parsing of bank account, credit card, and PayPal transactions. I'm not buying it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have to submit a financial disclosure form annually and for clearance they pulled my credit and inquired about any debts. They want to make sure you’re not compromised based on debt.


Right....but those are not your actual monthly statements for bank accounts and credit cards. Credit reports from the 3 bureaus will show whether you're compromised based on debt and that's enough to make a security clearance determination.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have to do this every year- tax forms, bank statements, credit card statements, etc... it annoys me because I know they can get it themselves but I think it is partly to see what I turn over.

If he wants the job, he has to do it.


Really? What kind of job? That is crazy to me. I could live with showing my tax returns and savings/brokerage statement for a dream job, but not checking/debit or credit card statements where they can see all your transactions. That's a bridge too far for me. That could include doctor's office co-pays, political/charity contributions, club memberships, DH's porn subscriptions, where you buy food and how much you spend...? Babies R US charges if you're pregnant? Maybe they see how much you spend on restaurants and entertainment and decide they don't have to give you a big salary?

And besides, OP gave excellent reasons why her summer spending was up and how her bonus will cover it. She said they pay their bills on time, so the historical information on their credit report will give the employer a much better overview of whether they are compromised by debt.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just pull a credit report?

Is this a federal job with a national security clearance?

They are, apparently, which is why I wonder why it matters. DH seems to think it’s some sort of “test” to see if he will actually comply or instead attempt to side-step it. It’s a job in state government, though not financial.


That's crazy. A Top Secret security clearance doesn't require one to turn over this level of documentation - they just pull credit reports, which show active and closed lines of credits, balances, etc.


Depends on where you are working with that clearance. Some agencies require an annual report of all bank and credit card statements.

What in the world does this tell them that a typical background check/credit report doesn’t? That’s baffling to me.


If you are living above your means


Would love to get these from Brett Kavanaugh!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just pull a credit report?

Is this a federal job with a national security clearance?

They are, apparently, which is why I wonder why it matters. DH seems to think it’s some sort of “test” to see if he will actually comply or instead attempt to side-step it. It’s a job in state government, though not financial.


That's crazy. A Top Secret security clearance doesn't require one to turn over this level of documentation - they just pull credit reports, which show active and closed lines of credits, balances, etc.


Depends on where you are working with that clearance. Some agencies require an annual report of all bank and credit card statements.

What in the world does this tell them that a typical background check/credit report doesn’t? That’s baffling to me.


If you are living above your means


Credit report would show this - it shows current balance, size of credit line, and payment history/delinquencies. That's all you need to determine whether an individual is "living about their means."

The only reason to ask for actual statements is to parse your individual spending transactions. But that's akin to asking to see your text message history. In other words, this is way beyond what a background investigator can ask for and would require a warrant (likely as part of a criminal investigation).

I have to file detailed transaction-level financial disclosures if I'm making investments in stocks, bonds, derivatives, list out all my loan balances, etc. But that's to ensure I'm complying with conflict of interest laws.

Let us know which security clearance & agency requires a parsing of bank account, credit card, and PayPal transactions. I'm not buying it.


NP and I think my friend at that is a contractor for the FBI has to do something like this. He does some kinda software engineer stuff.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just pull a credit report?

Is this a federal job with a national security clearance?

They are, apparently, which is why I wonder why it matters. DH seems to think it’s some sort of “test” to see if he will actually comply or instead attempt to side-step it. It’s a job in state government, though not financial.


That's crazy. A Top Secret security clearance doesn't require one to turn over this level of documentation - they just pull credit reports, which show active and closed lines of credits, balances, etc.



Security clearances want to determine if you live beyond your means. As in, are you on the take.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just pull a credit report?

Is this a federal job with a national security clearance?

They are, apparently, which is why I wonder why it matters. DH seems to think it’s some sort of “test” to see if he will actually comply or instead attempt to side-step it. It’s a job in state government, though not financial.


That's crazy. A Top Secret security clearance doesn't require one to turn over this level of documentation - they just pull credit reports, which show active and closed lines of credits, balances, etc.


Depends on where you are working with that clearance. Some agencies require an annual report of all bank and credit card statements.

What in the world does this tell them that a typical background check/credit report doesn’t? That’s baffling to me.


In the situation I am aware of, they are checking for any unusual transactions. Large deposits that could mean you are compromised. Alternatively they are looking for large expenses that mean you could be compromised at some point.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just pull a credit report?

Is this a federal job with a national security clearance?

They are, apparently, which is why I wonder why it matters. DH seems to think it’s some sort of “test” to see if he will actually comply or instead attempt to side-step it. It’s a job in state government, though not financial.


That's crazy. A Top Secret security clearance doesn't require one to turn over this level of documentation - they just pull credit reports, which show active and closed lines of credits, balances, etc.


Depends on where you are working with that clearance. Some agencies require an annual report of all bank and credit card statements.

What in the world does this tell them that a typical background check/credit report doesn’t? That’s baffling to me.


If you are living above your means


Would love to get these from Brett Kavanaugh!



Terribly unfair and ignorant. You clearly don't know what security judicial candidates undergo
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just pull a credit report?

Is this a federal job with a national security clearance?

They are, apparently, which is why I wonder why it matters. DH seems to think it’s some sort of “test” to see if he will actually comply or instead attempt to side-step it. It’s a job in state government, though not financial.


That's crazy. A Top Secret security clearance doesn't require one to turn over this level of documentation - they just pull credit reports, which show active and closed lines of credits, balances, etc.



Security clearances want to determine if you live beyond your means. As in, are you on the take.


If you’re “on the take,” you have a duffel bag filled with cash or an unregistered crypto account or crypto cold storage. You’re not getting bribed through your checking account where anything over $10K or structured payments gets automatically flagged and reported to FinCEN.

I still don’t believe background investigators are asking for statements without a court order. I think you’re mistaken.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just pull a credit report?

Is this a federal job with a national security clearance?

They are, apparently, which is why I wonder why it matters. DH seems to think it’s some sort of “test” to see if he will actually comply or instead attempt to side-step it. It’s a job in state government, though not financial.


That's crazy. A Top Secret security clearance doesn't require one to turn over this level of documentation - they just pull credit reports, which show active and closed lines of credits, balances, etc.


Depends on where you are working with that clearance. Some agencies require an annual report of all bank and credit card statements.

What in the world does this tell them that a typical background check/credit report doesn’t? That’s baffling to me.


If you are living above your means


Would love to get these from Brett Kavanaugh!



Terribly unfair and ignorant. You clearly don't know what security judicial candidates undergo


No, I'm very informed. This is off-topic, but go ahead and do your research below and we can discuss over in the Politics, SC Corruption thread.

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=brett+kavanaugh+source+of+money
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just pull a credit report?

Is this a federal job with a national security clearance?

They are, apparently, which is why I wonder why it matters. DH seems to think it’s some sort of “test” to see if he will actually comply or instead attempt to side-step it. It’s a job in state government, though not financial.


That's crazy. A Top Secret security clearance doesn't require one to turn over this level of documentation - they just pull credit reports, which show active and closed lines of credits, balances, etc.


Depends on where you are working with that clearance. Some agencies require an annual report of all bank and credit card statements.

What in the world does this tell them that a typical background check/credit report doesn’t? That’s baffling to me.


If you are living above your means


Would love to get these from Brett Kavanaugh!



Terribly unfair and ignorant. You clearly don't know what security judicial candidates undergo


Correct. Supreme Court Justices get their bribes as gifts in kind, so nothing shows up on their bank statements.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can't they just pull a credit report?

Is this a federal job with a national security clearance?

They are, apparently, which is why I wonder why it matters. DH seems to think it’s some sort of “test” to see if he will actually comply or instead attempt to side-step it. It’s a job in state government, though not financial.


That's crazy. A Top Secret security clearance doesn't require one to turn over this level of documentation - they just pull credit reports, which show active and closed lines of credits, balances, etc.


Depends on where you are working with that clearance. Some agencies require an annual report of all bank and credit card statements.

What in the world does this tell them that a typical background check/credit report doesn’t? That’s baffling to me.


If you are living above your means


Would love to get these from Brett Kavanaugh!



Terribly unfair and ignorant. You clearly don't know what security judicial candidates undergo


Oh, lighten up, Frances. 🙄
All of that security that he underwent... and yet, he still hasn't been able to account for WHO exactly paid off all of his loans and down payment on his home?
So yes, there is a very big question mark there, which is concerning.
If the PP has to provide documentation to make sure she's not compromisable, Supreme Court Justices should certainly have to do the same, as they're in positions to make erroneous decisions or counterfactual judgements if they are in fact compromised.


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