More women join the suit against TX Abortion law

[Anonymous]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-women-sue-texas-asking-123339247.html

Some of the stories are horrific.

One doctor in TX even had to travel out of state to get an abortion for herself.

Another woman had five children so she couldn't afford to go out of state to get an abortion. She had to solicit donations to pay for the funeral of a baby that they knew would not survive.

More and more sad stories.

More women in TX and other states need to rise up.

[Anonymous]

If women voted pro choice, the GOP would have to join us past the year 1200.

[Anonymous]

They can sue all they want, but until enough of the right people are getting hurt, nothing is going to change.

[Anonymous]

The people in these states are going to be delivering their own babies in a few years

[Anonymous]

Note the doctor in the story is pregnant again. Yet another pregnancy that would not have happened if the woman had not been able to attain an abortion.

This is something anti-abortionists refuse to acknowledge. There are lots of children in this world who would not exist if their mothers had not been allowed to terminate a previous pregnancy.

My child is one of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Note the doctor in the story is pregnant again. Yet another pregnancy that would not have happened if the woman had not been able to attain an abortion.

This is something anti-abortionists refuse to acknowledge. There are lots of children in this world who would not exist if their mothers had not been allowed to terminate a previous pregnancy.

My child is one of them.

Both of mine

[Anonymous]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/22/opinion/abortion-law-texas-lawsuit.html

“Elizabeth was told that she could either discontinue antibiotics and stay in the hospital to wait to develop an infection and get sicker; or she could go home and look out for signs of infection,” said the filing. She went home. “With every passing day, I felt the state’s intentional cruelty,” Weller said during a news conference on Monday. “My baby would not survive and my life didn’t matter.” Her doctor, she said, called around trying to find another hospital that would treat her. “All of those hospitals told my doctor that they have patients just like me in those situations and they can’t touch them,” she said.

Two of the women in the original suit, Lauren Miller and Ashley Brandt, had been pregnant with twins. Each discovered that one of her twins had severe abnormalities and wouldn’t survive. In both cases, only by aborting the doomed twin could they protect the life of the viable one, as well as their own health.

Texas doctors can do little for women in this excruciating situation. Given a state law that lets people sue anyone who “aids or abets” an abortion, many are fearful even to counsel their patients about out-of-state options.

One of the new plaintiffs in the suit, a mother of four named Samantha Casiano, was forced to carry to term a fetus that she knew would not survive after birth, spending months fund-raising for the inevitable funeral. Reporting on Casiano’s case in April, NPR spoke to Amy O’Donnell of Texas Alliance for Life. O’Donnell was at least honest. She doesn’t believe in exemptions for cases like Casiano’s. “I do believe the Texas laws are working as designed,” she said.

That woman O'Donnell is a ghoulish ogre. How does a person become so cruel and heartless?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/22/opinion/abortion-law-texas-lawsuit.html

“Elizabeth was told that she could either discontinue antibiotics and stay in the hospital to wait to develop an infection and get sicker; or she could go home and look out for signs of infection,” said the filing. She went home. “With every passing day, I felt the state’s intentional cruelty,” Weller said during a news conference on Monday. “My baby would not survive and my life didn’t matter.” Her doctor, she said, called around trying to find another hospital that would treat her. “All of those hospitals told my doctor that they have patients just like me in those situations and they can’t touch them,” she said.

Two of the women in the original suit, Lauren Miller and Ashley Brandt, had been pregnant with twins. Each discovered that one of her twins had severe abnormalities and wouldn’t survive. In both cases, only by aborting the doomed twin could they protect the life of the viable one, as well as their own health.

Texas doctors can do little for women in this excruciating situation. Given a state law that lets people sue anyone who “aids or abets” an abortion, many are fearful even to counsel their patients about out-of-state options.

One of the new plaintiffs in the suit, a mother of four named Samantha Casiano, was forced to carry to term a fetus that she knew would not survive after birth, spending months fund-raising for the inevitable funeral. Reporting on Casiano’s case in April, NPR spoke to Amy O’Donnell of Texas Alliance for Life. O’Donnell was at least honest. She doesn’t believe in exemptions for cases like Casiano’s. “I do believe the Texas laws are working as designed,” she said.

That woman O'Donnell is a ghoulish ogre. How does a person become so cruel and heartless?

She’s a psychopath. She undoubtedly identifies as a Christian, but completely misses the point of literally everything Christ taught.

[Anonymous]

And what is truly disgusting is that Texas law demands all fetal remains be buried or cremated meaning women forced to give birth to dead or dying babies are then forced to fork over $$$ to pay for funerals.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/04/06/1168399423/a-good-friday-funeral-in-texas-baby-halos-parents-had-few-choices-in-post-roe-te

In addition to the abortion bans, another Texas law that came into effect when Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health reversed Roe requires all fetal remains to be buried or cremated. It's a law that Molly Duane, staff attorney at the Center for Reproductive Rights, challenged in court in 2017 and succeeded in blocking for years until Roe was overturned.

Duane calls Texas's laws on abortion and pregnancy "hypocritical." "They prohibit abortion even for people like [Casiano] — and they do so unapologetically — while simultaneously not providing any support for women and families," she says.

"Where is the state of Texas to provide the safety net for her, after forcing her to give birth to a child that didn't survive and never would?" she asks.

Amy O'Donnell, director of communications for the Texas Alliance for Life... says she supports the abortion bans and opposes creating exceptions for fetal anomalies.

"I do believe the Texas laws are working as designed," she says. "I also believe that we have a responsibility to educate Texas women and families on the resources that we have available to them, both for their pregnancy, for childbirth and beyond, as well as in situations where they face an infant loss."

She says several private and religious organizations provide free caskets and other services, but said public funds for infant funerals is not currently part of the "Alternatives to Abortion" state program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Note the doctor in the story is pregnant again. Yet another pregnancy that would not have happened if the woman had not been able to attain an abortion.

This is something anti-abortionists refuse to acknowledge. There are lots of children in this world who would not exist if their mothers had not been allowed to terminate a previous pregnancy.

My child is one of them.

Both of mine

Both of mine as well. What Texas and other states are making these women go through is unconscionable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/22/opinion/abortion-law-texas-lawsuit.html

“Elizabeth was told that she could either discontinue antibiotics and stay in the hospital to wait to develop an infection and get sicker; or she could go home and look out for signs of infection,” said the filing. She went home. “With every passing day, I felt the state’s intentional cruelty,” Weller said during a news conference on Monday. “My baby would not survive and my life didn’t matter.” Her doctor, she said, called around trying to find another hospital that would treat her. “All of those hospitals told my doctor that they have patients just like me in those situations and they can’t touch them,” she said.

Two of the women in the original suit, Lauren Miller and Ashley Brandt, had been pregnant with twins. Each discovered that one of her twins had severe abnormalities and wouldn’t survive. In both cases, only by aborting the doomed twin could they protect the life of the viable one, as well as their own health.

Texas doctors can do little for women in this excruciating situation. Given a state law that lets people sue anyone who “aids or abets” an abortion, many are fearful even to counsel their patients about out-of-state options.

One of the new plaintiffs in the suit, a mother of four named Samantha Casiano, was forced to carry to term a fetus that she knew would not survive after birth, spending months fund-raising for the inevitable funeral. Reporting on Casiano’s case in April, NPR spoke to Amy O’Donnell of Texas Alliance for Life. O’Donnell was at least honest. She doesn’t believe in exemptions for cases like Casiano’s. “I do believe the Texas laws are working as designed,” she said.

That woman O'Donnell is a ghoulish ogre. How does a person become so cruel and heartless?

Same way Al Qaeda used airplanes as bombs and ISIL tortured and killed - she's a zealot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And what is truly disgusting is that Texas law demands all fetal remains be buried or cremated meaning women forced to give birth to dead or dying babies are then forced to fork over $$$ to pay for funerals.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/04/06/1168399423/a-good-friday-funeral-in-texas-baby-halos-parents-had-few-choices-in-post-roe-te

In addition to the abortion bans, another Texas law that came into effect when Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health reversed Roe requires all fetal remains to be buried or cremated. It's a law that Molly Duane, staff attorney at the Center for Reproductive Rights, challenged in court in 2017 and succeeded in blocking for years until Roe was overturned.

Duane calls Texas's laws on abortion and pregnancy "hypocritical." "They prohibit abortion even for people like [Casiano] — and they do so unapologetically — while simultaneously not providing any support for women and families," she says.

"Where is the state of Texas to provide the safety net for her, after forcing her to give birth to a child that didn't survive and never would?" she asks.

Amy O'Donnell, director of communications for the Texas Alliance for Life... says she supports the abortion bans and opposes creating exceptions for fetal anomalies.

"I do believe the Texas laws are working as designed," she says. "I also believe that we have a responsibility to educate Texas women and families on the resources that we have available to them, both for their pregnancy, for childbirth and beyond, as well as in situations where they face an infant loss."

She says several private and religious organizations provide free caskets and other services, but said public funds for infant funerals is not currently part of the "Alternatives to Abortion" state program.

It’s all apart of the grift. A tax on Texas families and a boon for Texas funeral parlors, courtesy of the “pro life” movement. I’ll bet the religious charities will give you an empty diaper box to burn your baby in and pat themselves on the back for their piety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/22/opinion/abortion-law-texas-lawsuit.html

“Elizabeth was told that she could either discontinue antibiotics and stay in the hospital to wait to develop an infection and get sicker; or she could go home and look out for signs of infection,” said the filing. She went home. “With every passing day, I felt the state’s intentional cruelty,” Weller said during a news conference on Monday. “My baby would not survive and my life didn’t matter.” Her doctor, she said, called around trying to find another hospital that would treat her. “All of those hospitals told my doctor that they have patients just like me in those situations and they can’t touch them,” she said.

Two of the women in the original suit, Lauren Miller and Ashley Brandt, had been pregnant with twins. Each discovered that one of her twins had severe abnormalities and wouldn’t survive. In both cases, only by aborting the doomed twin could they protect the life of the viable one, as well as their own health.

Texas doctors can do little for women in this excruciating situation. Given a state law that lets people sue anyone who “aids or abets” an abortion, many are fearful even to counsel their patients about out-of-state options.

One of the new plaintiffs in the suit, a mother of four named Samantha Casiano, was forced to carry to term a fetus that she knew would not survive after birth, spending months fund-raising for the inevitable funeral. Reporting on Casiano’s case in April, NPR spoke to Amy O’Donnell of Texas Alliance for Life. O’Donnell was at least honest. She doesn’t believe in exemptions for cases like Casiano’s. “I do believe the Texas laws are working as designed,” she said.

That woman O'Donnell is a ghoulish ogre. How does a person become so cruel and heartless?

One word: Satan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And what is truly disgusting is that Texas law demands all fetal remains be buried or cremated meaning women forced to give birth to dead or dying babies are then forced to fork over $$$ to pay for funerals.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/04/06/1168399423/a-good-friday-funeral-in-texas-baby-halos-parents-had-few-choices-in-post-roe-te

In addition to the abortion bans, another Texas law that came into effect when Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health reversed Roe requires all fetal remains to be buried or cremated. It's a law that Molly Duane, staff attorney at the Center for Reproductive Rights, challenged in court in 2017 and succeeded in blocking for years until Roe was overturned.

Duane calls Texas's laws on abortion and pregnancy "hypocritical." "They prohibit abortion even for people like [Casiano] — and they do so unapologetically — while simultaneously not providing any support for women and families," she says.

"Where is the state of Texas to provide the safety net for her, after forcing her to give birth to a child that didn't survive and never would?" she asks.

Amy O'Donnell, director of communications for the Texas Alliance for Life... says she supports the abortion bans and opposes creating exceptions for fetal anomalies.

"I do believe the Texas laws are working as designed," she says. "I also believe that we have a responsibility to educate Texas women and families on the resources that we have available to them, both for their pregnancy, for childbirth and beyond, as well as in situations where they face an infant loss."

She says several private and religious organizations provide free caskets and other services, but said public funds for infant funerals is not currently part of the "Alternatives to Abortion" state program.

It’s all apart of the grift. A tax on Texas families and a boon for Texas funeral parlors, courtesy of the “pro life” movement. I’ll bet the religious charities will give you an empty diaper box to burn your baby in and pat themselves on the back for their piety.

That is horrible, but it is all GOP brand right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Note the doctor in the story is pregnant again. Yet another pregnancy that would not have happened if the woman had not been able to attain an abortion.

This is something anti-abortionists refuse to acknowledge. There are lots of children in this world who would not exist if their mothers had not been allowed to terminate a previous pregnancy.

My child is one of them.

Exactly. These anti-abortion laws just prolong the pain and suffering (and cost). Many women need an abortion to end a non-viable pregnancy so that they can try again for a healthy baby.