Anonymous wrote:lol she was in the middle of the ERAs tour! Sheesh

But she found time to support her friends in other ways during the tour. When Sabrina, Selena, etc., put out albums she took time to post about it. Nothing about Blake. Nothing about the movie, nothing about her hairline.

And the tour ended into December. It’s May. She’s been getting together with her other friends, hasn’t gotten together with Blake.

And then, when she didn’t say silent, she clearly threw Blake under the bus, contradicting her and getting in an unnecessary dig.

Come on. You can’t possibly believe they’re still friends.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that as a Swiftie, I don't get the people saying that her statement about not being involved with the movie other than licensing a song means she was saying "Blake lied." As someone who pays a weird amount of attention to stuff Taylor says, I don't get this.

Blake did interviews where she said stuff like "Taylor was with me through the whole thing, for better or worse." I think she obviously meant emotionally, as a friend. She wasn't saying Taylor made the movie with her, obviously. Taylor was doing Eras and starting a new serious relationship with someone who, like her, travels constantly and has a demanding job. The idea that Taylor was just quietly trying to take over this movie in between all that is silly and I don't think Blake ever implied that. She was just saying that making the movie was hard and Taylor, as her friend, supported her through it. Which I am sure was true.

So when Taylor made the comment about how she just contributed the song (which was not written for the movie), didn't score the movie, didn't participate in production, and didn't see the movie until weeks after it opened, I don't think it was some repudiation of Blake. She supported Blake in making the movie, was "with her" in the way friends are always with each other while they do hard things. It doesn't strike me as contrary to what Blake had said previously.

That said, it does seem like there are issues between them and if Blake asked her to delete messages or was leaning on Taylor to support her publicly, I could see Taylor distancing herself. But they've been friends a long time. I also don't think Taylor cares AT ALL about Justin Baldoni and has zero interest in helping him with his case or siding with him against Blake.

Just my two cents.

But you are mischaracterizing this. Blake never said Taylor was with me emotionally for better or for worse. The quotes about Taylor being in this with her were said during happier times when she was promoting the movie and everything was sunshine and roses. You can look up the video yourself, but she said that Taylor was intimately involved in the movie every step of the way and that’s just the kind of friend she is. She also told Isabella and Justin that Taylor helped cast young Lily and went over those tapes. It is clear that Taylor was in the apartment for a meeting and that Blake used her influence to threaten Justin. I’ve got dragons and you want them on your side, you may recall, is essentially what she said. It sounds like she purposely had Taylor at that meeting and Taylor was blindsided and didn’t know there was going to be a meeting there.

Further, we have legal documents showing that Blake threatened to pull my tears ricochet from the marketing if Justin didn’t do something that she wanted. We now know she probably never had the power to do that as Taylor’s team licensed the song and Taylor wasn’t going to be bothered during her tour to get into that mess.

This was in no way saying Taylor supported her emotionally. We have several examples of her lying and manipulating things to make it seem as if Taylor was part of the creative team and would be willing to use her power to help Blake get the creative control she wanted. Taylor is unequivocally denying this and in doing so throwing Blake completely under the bus. It really is karma because Blake was trying to use Taylor to lift her up, and now Taylor is completely trashing her public reputation. And that is why when she didn’t get invited to the Super Bowl, she turned to threats and extortion.

It seems that Taylor‘s team and had enough and went to freedman.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that as a Swiftie, I don't get the people saying that her statement about not being involved with the movie other than licensing a song means she was saying "Blake lied." As someone who pays a weird amount of attention to stuff Taylor says, I don't get this.

Blake did interviews where she said stuff like "Taylor was with me through the whole thing, for better or worse." I think she obviously meant emotionally, as a friend. She wasn't saying Taylor made the movie with her, obviously. Taylor was doing Eras and starting a new serious relationship with someone who, like her, travels constantly and has a demanding job. The idea that Taylor was just quietly trying to take over this movie in between all that is silly and I don't think Blake ever implied that. She was just saying that making the movie was hard and Taylor, as her friend, supported her through it. Which I am sure was true.

So when Taylor made the comment about how she just contributed the song (which was not written for the movie), didn't score the movie, didn't participate in production, and didn't see the movie until weeks after it opened, I don't think it was some repudiation of Blake. She supported Blake in making the movie, was "with her" in the way friends are always with each other while they do hard things. It doesn't strike me as contrary to what Blake had said previously.

That said, it does seem like there are issues between them and if Blake asked her to delete messages or was leaning on Taylor to support her publicly, I could see Taylor distancing herself. But they've been friends a long time. I also don't think Taylor cares AT ALL about Justin Baldoni and has zero interest in helping him with his case or siding with him against Blake.

Just my two cents.

A whole lot of unnecessary rationalization here. If one of my friends was in the midst of a very public sexual harassment lawsuit that was bringing her a ton of negative publicity and I had Taylor’s platform, I sure wouldn’t be running away from her if I believed her claims to be true. Nor would I stay silent if there were reports of someone from the my team leaking negative info about her to the other side that weren’t true.

Not rationalizing -- I do think something is broken between them and I'm not even saying I believe Lively's allegations or that Taylor does. Just noting that as someone who follows T closely, her statement didn't seem like she was trying to say Blake lied. It sounded like she was criticizing Baldoni and distancing herself from the movie and leaving the subject of Blake or their friendship out of it because she doesn't think that's anyone's business but theirs.

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lol she was in the middle of the ERAs tour! Sheesh

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that as a Swiftie, I don't get the people saying that her statement about not being involved with the movie other than licensing a song means she was saying "Blake lied." As someone who pays a weird amount of attention to stuff Taylor says, I don't get this.

Blake did interviews where she said stuff like "Taylor was with me through the whole thing, for better or worse." I think she obviously meant emotionally, as a friend. She wasn't saying Taylor made the movie with her, obviously. Taylor was doing Eras and starting a new serious relationship with someone who, like her, travels constantly and has a demanding job. The idea that Taylor was just quietly trying to take over this movie in between all that is silly and I don't think Blake ever implied that. She was just saying that making the movie was hard and Taylor, as her friend, supported her through it. Which I am sure was true.

So when Taylor made the comment about how she just contributed the song (which was not written for the movie), didn't score the movie, didn't participate in production, and didn't see the movie until weeks after it opened, I don't think it was some repudiation of Blake. She supported Blake in making the movie, was "with her" in the way friends are always with each other while they do hard things. It doesn't strike me as contrary to what Blake had said previously.

That said, it does seem like there are issues between them and if Blake asked her to delete messages or was leaning on Taylor to support her publicly, I could see Taylor distancing herself. But they've been friends a long time. I also don't think Taylor cares AT ALL about Justin Baldoni and has zero interest in helping him with his case or siding with him against Blake.

Just my two cents.

A whole lot of unnecessary rationalization here. If one of my friends was in the midst of a very public sexual harassment lawsuit that was bringing her a ton of negative publicity and I had Taylor’s platform, I sure wouldn’t be running away from her if I believed her claims to be true. Nor would I stay silent if there were reports of someone from the my team leaking negative info about her to the other side that weren’t true.

Not rationalizing -- I do think something is broken between them and I'm not even saying I believe Lively's allegations or that Taylor does. Just noting that as someone who follows T closely, her statement didn't seem like she was trying to say Blake lied. It sounded like she was criticizing Baldoni and distancing herself from the movie and leaving the subject of Blake or their friendship out of it because she doesn't think that's anyone's business but theirs.

She didn’t really criticize Baldoni. The entire statement was mostly a pot shot at her former BFF.

How? Be specific.

She was clearly criticizing the subpoena and the motivations behind it (clickbait, using Taylor's fame for attention). What about her comment is a "pot shot" at Blake? Blake never claimed Taylor saw the movie early on, or scored the film, or participated in production. She told Isabella that Taylor helped cast her, but the story that gets told is that Baldoni found Isabella and sent it to Blake, and that Taylor saw it and said "yes, her." This is the story Baldoni himself told. So nothing Taylor says contradicts said challenges that. That's not "casting." That's giving a best friend's seal of approval that the actress cast as the younger version of Blake does indeed show a strong likeness to Blake.

Who among us hasn’t had our bestie finish a huge project, first movie role in 7 years, first time as a producer, and we can’t bother to get around to it for weeks and not only that but we blast that fact to the world for no reason.

Blake said she’s been working on her hair line for seven years. Not a peep from Taylor when that launched or since. It’s pretty clear she pissed her off during the making of this. Taylor started distancing herself last summer and now their friendship is completely over.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that as a Swiftie, I don't get the people saying that her statement about not being involved with the movie other than licensing a song means she was saying "Blake lied." As someone who pays a weird amount of attention to stuff Taylor says, I don't get this.

Blake did interviews where she said stuff like "Taylor was with me through the whole thing, for better or worse." I think she obviously meant emotionally, as a friend. She wasn't saying Taylor made the movie with her, obviously. Taylor was doing Eras and starting a new serious relationship with someone who, like her, travels constantly and has a demanding job. The idea that Taylor was just quietly trying to take over this movie in between all that is silly and I don't think Blake ever implied that. She was just saying that making the movie was hard and Taylor, as her friend, supported her through it. Which I am sure was true.

So when Taylor made the comment about how she just contributed the song (which was not written for the movie), didn't score the movie, didn't participate in production, and didn't see the movie until weeks after it opened, I don't think it was some repudiation of Blake. She supported Blake in making the movie, was "with her" in the way friends are always with each other while they do hard things. It doesn't strike me as contrary to what Blake had said previously.

That said, it does seem like there are issues between them and if Blake asked her to delete messages or was leaning on Taylor to support her publicly, I could see Taylor distancing herself. But they've been friends a long time. I also don't think Taylor cares AT ALL about Justin Baldoni and has zero interest in helping him with his case or siding with him against Blake.

Just my two cents.

A whole lot of unnecessary rationalization here. If one of my friends was in the midst of a very public sexual harassment lawsuit that was bringing her a ton of negative publicity and I had Taylor’s platform, I sure wouldn’t be running away from her if I believed her claims to be true. Nor would I stay silent if there were reports of someone from the my team leaking negative info about her to the other side that weren’t true.

Not rationalizing -- I do think something is broken between them and I'm not even saying I believe Lively's allegations or that Taylor does. Just noting that as someone who follows T closely, her statement didn't seem like she was trying to say Blake lied. It sounded like she was criticizing Baldoni and distancing herself from the movie and leaving the subject of Blake or their friendship out of it because she doesn't think that's anyone's business but theirs.

She didn’t really criticize Baldoni. The entire statement was mostly a pot shot at her former BFF.

How? Be specific.

She was clearly criticizing the subpoena and the motivations behind it (clickbait, using Taylor's fame for attention). What about her comment is a "pot shot" at Blake? Blake never claimed Taylor saw the movie early on, or scored the film, or participated in production. She told Isabella that Taylor helped cast her, but the story that gets told is that Baldoni found Isabella and sent it to Blake, and that Taylor saw it and said "yes, her." This is the story Baldoni himself told. So nothing Taylor says contradicts said challenges that. That's not "casting." That's giving a best friend's seal of approval that the actress cast as the younger version of Blake does indeed show a strong likeness to Blake.

Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that as a Swiftie, I don't get the people saying that her statement about not being involved with the movie other than licensing a song means she was saying "Blake lied." As someone who pays a weird amount of attention to stuff Taylor says, I don't get this.

Blake did interviews where she said stuff like "Taylor was with me through the whole thing, for better or worse." I think she obviously meant emotionally, as a friend. She wasn't saying Taylor made the movie with her, obviously. Taylor was doing Eras and starting a new serious relationship with someone who, like her, travels constantly and has a demanding job. The idea that Taylor was just quietly trying to take over this movie in between all that is silly and I don't think Blake ever implied that. She was just saying that making the movie was hard and Taylor, as her friend, supported her through it. Which I am sure was true.

So when Taylor made the comment about how she just contributed the song (which was not written for the movie), didn't score the movie, didn't participate in production, and didn't see the movie until weeks after it opened, I don't think it was some repudiation of Blake. She supported Blake in making the movie, was "with her" in the way friends are always with each other while they do hard things. It doesn't strike me as contrary to what Blake had said previously.

That said, it does seem like there are issues between them and if Blake asked her to delete messages or was leaning on Taylor to support her publicly, I could see Taylor distancing herself. But they've been friends a long time. I also don't think Taylor cares AT ALL about Justin Baldoni and has zero interest in helping him with his case or siding with him against Blake.

Just my two cents.

But you are mischaracterizing this. Blake never said Taylor was with me emotionally for better or for worse. The quotes about Taylor being in this with her were said during happier times when she was promoting the movie and everything was sunshine and roses. You can look up the video yourself, but she said that Taylor was intimately involved in the movie every step of the way and that’s just the kind of friend she is. She also told Isabella and Justin that Taylor helped cast young Lily and went over those tapes. It is clear that Taylor was in the apartment for a meeting and that Blake used her influence to threaten Justin. I’ve got dragons and you want them on your side, you may recall, is essentially what she said. It sounds like she purposely had Taylor at that meeting and Taylor was blindsided and didn’t know there was going to be a meeting there.

Further, we have legal documents showing that Blake threatened to pull my tears ricochet from the marketing if Justin didn’t do something that she wanted. We now know she probably never had the power to do that as Taylor’s team licensed the song and Taylor wasn’t going to be bothered during her tour to get into that mess.

This was in no way saying Taylor supported her emotionally. We have several examples of her lying and manipulating things to make it seem as if Taylor was part of the creative team and would be willing to use her power to help Blake get the creative control she wanted. Taylor is unequivocally denying this and in doing so throwing Blake completely under the bus. It really is karma because Blake was trying to use Taylor to lift her up, and now Taylor is completely trashing her public reputation. And that is why when she didn’t get invited to the Super Bowl, she turned to threats and extortion.

It seems that Taylor‘s team and had enough and went to freedman.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that as a Swiftie, I don't get the people saying that her statement about not being involved with the movie other than licensing a song means she was saying "Blake lied." As someone who pays a weird amount of attention to stuff Taylor says, I don't get this.

Blake did interviews where she said stuff like "Taylor was with me through the whole thing, for better or worse." I think she obviously meant emotionally, as a friend. She wasn't saying Taylor made the movie with her, obviously. Taylor was doing Eras and starting a new serious relationship with someone who, like her, travels constantly and has a demanding job. The idea that Taylor was just quietly trying to take over this movie in between all that is silly and I don't think Blake ever implied that. She was just saying that making the movie was hard and Taylor, as her friend, supported her through it. Which I am sure was true.

So when Taylor made the comment about how she just contributed the song (which was not written for the movie), didn't score the movie, didn't participate in production, and didn't see the movie until weeks after it opened, I don't think it was some repudiation of Blake. She supported Blake in making the movie, was "with her" in the way friends are always with each other while they do hard things. It doesn't strike me as contrary to what Blake had said previously.

That said, it does seem like there are issues between them and if Blake asked her to delete messages or was leaning on Taylor to support her publicly, I could see Taylor distancing herself. But they've been friends a long time. I also don't think Taylor cares AT ALL about Justin Baldoni and has zero interest in helping him with his case or siding with him against Blake.

Just my two cents.

A whole lot of unnecessary rationalization here. If one of my friends was in the midst of a very public sexual harassment lawsuit that was bringing her a ton of negative publicity and I had Taylor’s platform, I sure wouldn’t be running away from her if I believed her claims to be true. Nor would I stay silent if there were reports of someone from the my team leaking negative info about her to the other side that weren’t true.

Not rationalizing -- I do think something is broken between them and I'm not even saying I believe Lively's allegations or that Taylor does. Just noting that as someone who follows T closely, her statement didn't seem like she was trying to say Blake lied. It sounded like she was criticizing Baldoni and distancing herself from the movie and leaving the subject of Blake or their friendship out of it because she doesn't think that's anyone's business but theirs.

She didn’t really criticize Baldoni. The entire statement was mostly a pot shot at her former BFF.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that as a Swiftie, I don't get the people saying that her statement about not being involved with the movie other than licensing a song means she was saying "Blake lied." As someone who pays a weird amount of attention to stuff Taylor says, I don't get this.

Blake did interviews where she said stuff like "Taylor was with me through the whole thing, for better or worse." I think she obviously meant emotionally, as a friend. She wasn't saying Taylor made the movie with her, obviously. Taylor was doing Eras and starting a new serious relationship with someone who, like her, travels constantly and has a demanding job. The idea that Taylor was just quietly trying to take over this movie in between all that is silly and I don't think Blake ever implied that. She was just saying that making the movie was hard and Taylor, as her friend, supported her through it. Which I am sure was true.

So when Taylor made the comment about how she just contributed the song (which was not written for the movie), didn't score the movie, didn't participate in production, and didn't see the movie until weeks after it opened, I don't think it was some repudiation of Blake. She supported Blake in making the movie, was "with her" in the way friends are always with each other while they do hard things. It doesn't strike me as contrary to what Blake had said previously.

That said, it does seem like there are issues between them and if Blake asked her to delete messages or was leaning on Taylor to support her publicly, I could see Taylor distancing herself. But they've been friends a long time. I also don't think Taylor cares AT ALL about Justin Baldoni and has zero interest in helping him with his case or siding with him against Blake.

Just my two cents.

A whole lot of unnecessary rationalization here. If one of my friends was in the midst of a very public sexual harassment lawsuit that was bringing her a ton of negative publicity and I had Taylor’s platform, I sure wouldn’t be running away from her if I believed her claims to be true. Nor would I stay silent if there were reports of someone from the my team leaking negative info about her to the other side that weren’t true.

Not rationalizing -- I do think something is broken between them and I'm not even saying I believe Lively's allegations or that Taylor does. Just noting that as someone who follows T closely, her statement didn't seem like she was trying to say Blake lied. It sounded like she was criticizing Baldoni and distancing herself from the movie and leaving the subject of Blake or their friendship out of it because she doesn't think that's anyone's business but theirs.

Not actually golden put out a good video. Apparently Gottlieb told People magazine “the conversation as described did not happen.” She said that “as described” is doing a lot and it’s giving Vanzan. Her take is their positioning to say the conversation is being mischaracterized, not that it didn’t happen.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the Lively supporter who listened in on the PO hearing. I predicted here yesterday that the court would strike the letter. And I was right.

Why do you keep bringing up that you listened to the PO hearing as if it's a badge of honor? We don't care.

It’s also not a shock that liman struck the letter but this poster will crow about it being a big loss for freedman for days

I want to note that you’re minimizing Liman’s reaction here. He didn’t just strike the letter. He sua sponte struck Freedman’s opposition *and* affidavit, too. And he clearly explained that Freedman knowingly broke rules of comportment of which he was well aware. And he told him not to do it again. And he hinted at sanctions.

You think that’s not a big loss for Freedman? I hope it was worth getting his name in the headlines again, possibly because of some double hearsay unemployed PR rep. Freedman should have known better. Yet you still defend him. You guys are trash.

You continuously fail to see the long game of litigation like this. Baldonis side is winning the long game.

And I’ll say again, freedman wouldn’t have offered an affidavit to the court if the source wasn’t credible, and I’ll remind everyone that I’m the one who said the Daily Mail wouldn’t have published something like this against a seasoned litigator and involving taylor Swift without some confirmation it was legit. They skirt lines of ethics but they aren’t dumb.

Yeah, Freedman is definitely winning the long game with the actual judge who is in charge of deciding his clients’ case as opposed to TeamJustinBaldoni on Reddit who is very much in cope mode right now. “Playing the long game” definitely involves getting the judge deciding your case to excoriate your actions in a public opinion and warn you not to pull that sh!t again or else.

No judge will look at a double hearsay affidavit from a lead attorney like that and think, “this guy is a measured legal advocate who, as a judge, I can trust.” Maybe you’re saying this case will settle like many of Freedman’s cases often do. But if this goes to trial, Freedman has now burned some bridges with Liman.

Liman may be irritated but he will follow the law. And a jury will ultimately decide what happens, if they get there.

Have you ever been on a case where the other side did something sort of bad and was chastised by the judge? Because I have. And guess what? Their client still won. This does not matter.

Sure. He might still decide in Baldoni's favor. But maybe he's a step closer to agreeing Freedman shouldn't take Lively's deposition now. So maybe Freedman's shooting off his mouth is also shooting himself in the foot rather than "winning the long game."

It would go to a jury. And again, freedman not taking her depo DOES NOT MATTER in the long run.

Freedman seemed ready to fight to the death about this two months ago, and clearly personally thought it mattered very much. That was probably just his ego, though.

You seem to be saying that Freedman making the special effort to file all of these spurious details on Liman' docket is going to help him with public opinion, even if it causes the judge to sanction him, prevent him from taking Lively's deposition (or any depositions), take away his pro hac vice status, be more prone to making future filings on the docket AEO or under seal, closing off court hearings to the public, etc, etc. When instead of doing this, Freedman could have just not filed anything, and attempted to work things out with Venable, and raised the issue in D.D.C. as needed (where Venable hasn't mooted that MTQ yet like Freedman said they would; I think they have until midnight tonight if they're gonna) instead? I guess we'll see.

Fight to the death? Huh? You clearly don’t understand advocacy. Lawyers argue issues. They win or lose them in some form, and then they move on.

Wasn’t it lively who raised this issue in the SDNY? Either way, none of the things you listed above happened, and freedman appears to have a credible source for his claims, so again, this is a win for him. But again, these are all steps in a long game.

No, Lively didn’t raise the issue. Lively’s atty filed a letter notifying the court of activity in a related activity in a case related to theirs in a different jurisdiction, which is actually a totally normal thing to do that hardly ever leads to an attorney on your team being accused of extortion on the docket! (And that lawyer didn’t even say Freedman’s subpoena sought irrelevant info, just that Freedman had declined to meet and confer regarding the relevance of the info sought, which was true, and which, btw, lawyers on Lively’s team had heard with their own ears. That was not an invite to argue out the relevance to Judge Liman, who wasn’t deciding the motion to quash anyway.)

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the Lively supporter who listened in on the PO hearing. I predicted here yesterday that the court would strike the letter. And I was right.

Why do you keep bringing up that you listened to the PO hearing as if it's a badge of honor? We don't care.

It’s also not a shock that liman struck the letter but this poster will crow about it being a big loss for freedman for days

I want to note that you’re minimizing Liman’s reaction here. He didn’t just strike the letter. He sua sponte struck Freedman’s opposition *and* affidavit, too. And he clearly explained that Freedman knowingly broke rules of comportment of which he was well aware. And he told him not to do it again. And he hinted at sanctions.

You think that’s not a big loss for Freedman? I hope it was worth getting his name in the headlines again, possibly because of some double hearsay unemployed PR rep. Freedman should have known better. Yet you still defend him. You guys are trash.

You continuously fail to see the long game of litigation like this. Baldonis side is winning the long game.

And I’ll say again, freedman wouldn’t have offered an affidavit to the court if the source wasn’t credible, and I’ll remind everyone that I’m the one who said the Daily Mail wouldn’t have published something like this against a seasoned litigator and involving taylor Swift without some confirmation it was legit. They skirt lines of ethics but they aren’t dumb.

Yeah, Freedman is definitely winning the long game with the actual judge who is in charge of deciding his clients’ case as opposed to TeamJustinBaldoni on Reddit who is very much in cope mode right now. “Playing the long game” definitely involves getting the judge deciding your case to excoriate your actions in a public opinion and warn you not to pull that sh!t again or else.

No judge will look at a double hearsay affidavit from a lead attorney like that and think, “this guy is a measured legal advocate who, as a judge, I can trust.” Maybe you’re saying this case will settle like many of Freedman’s cases often do. But if this goes to trial, Freedman has now burned some bridges with Liman.

Liman may be irritated but he will follow the law. And a jury will ultimately decide what happens, if they get there.

Have you ever been on a case where the other side did something sort of bad and was chastised by the judge? Because I have. And guess what? Their client still won. This does not matter.

Sure. He might still decide in Baldoni's favor. But maybe he's a step closer to agreeing Freedman shouldn't take Lively's deposition now. So maybe Freedman's shooting off his mouth is also shooting himself in the foot rather than "winning the long game."

It would go to a jury. And again, freedman not taking her depo DOES NOT MATTER in the long run.

Freedman seemed ready to fight to the death about this two months ago, and clearly personally thought it mattered very much. That was probably just his ego, though.

You seem to be saying that Freedman making the special effort to file all of these spurious details on Liman' docket is going to help him with public opinion, even if it causes the judge to sanction him, prevent him from taking Lively's deposition (or any depositions), take away his pro hac vice status, be more prone to making future filings on the docket AEO or under seal, closing off court hearings to the public, etc, etc. When instead of doing this, Freedman could have just not filed anything, and attempted to work things out with Venable, and raised the issue in D.D.C. as needed (where Venable hasn't mooted that MTQ yet like Freedman said they would; I think they have until midnight tonight if they're gonna) instead? I guess we'll see.

All of the negative publicity Blake has gotten over the past few days vastly increases the pressure to settle, particularly if Venable is indeed cooperating with Freedman.

Anonymous wrote:I just want to note that as a Swiftie, I don't get the people saying that her statement about not being involved with the movie other than licensing a song means she was saying "Blake lied." As someone who pays a weird amount of attention to stuff Taylor says, I don't get this.

Blake did interviews where she said stuff like "Taylor was with me through the whole thing, for better or worse." I think she obviously meant emotionally, as a friend. She wasn't saying Taylor made the movie with her, obviously. Taylor was doing Eras and starting a new serious relationship with someone who, like her, travels constantly and has a demanding job. The idea that Taylor was just quietly trying to take over this movie in between all that is silly and I don't think Blake ever implied that. She was just saying that making the movie was hard and Taylor, as her friend, supported her through it. Which I am sure was true.

So when Taylor made the comment about how she just contributed the song (which was not written for the movie), didn't score the movie, didn't participate in production, and didn't see the movie until weeks after it opened, I don't think it was some repudiation of Blake. She supported Blake in making the movie, was "with her" in the way friends are always with each other while they do hard things. It doesn't strike me as contrary to what Blake had said previously.

That said, it does seem like there are issues between them and if Blake asked her to delete messages or was leaning on Taylor to support her publicly, I could see Taylor distancing herself. But they've been friends a long time. I also don't think Taylor cares AT ALL about Justin Baldoni and has zero interest in helping him with his case or siding with him against Blake.

Just my two cents.

A whole lot of unnecessary rationalization here. If one of my friends was in the midst of a very public sexual harassment lawsuit that was bringing her a ton of negative publicity and I had Taylor’s platform, I sure wouldn’t be running away from her if I believed her claims to be true. Nor would I stay silent if there were reports of someone from the my team leaking negative info about her to the other side that weren’t true.

One thing is very clear: Both sides are being milked by crisis PR and tabloids. All these prostitute reporters, hysterical headlines, all the bots, all the spirited comments… all of that is $$$.

I just want to note that as a Swiftie, I don't get the people saying that her statement about not being involved with the movie other than licensing a song means she was saying "Blake lied." As someone who pays a weird amount of attention to stuff Taylor says, I don't get this.

Blake did interviews where she said stuff like "Taylor was with me through the whole thing, for better or worse." I think she obviously meant emotionally, as a friend. She wasn't saying Taylor made the movie with her, obviously. Taylor was doing Eras and starting a new serious relationship with someone who, like her, travels constantly and has a demanding job. The idea that Taylor was just quietly trying to take over this movie in between all that is silly and I don't think Blake ever implied that. She was just saying that making the movie was hard and Taylor, as her friend, supported her through it. Which I am sure was true.

So when Taylor made the comment about how she just contributed the song (which was not written for the movie), didn't score the movie, didn't participate in production, and didn't see the movie until weeks after it opened, I don't think it was some repudiation of Blake. She supported Blake in making the movie, was "with her" in the way friends are always with each other while they do hard things. It doesn't strike me as contrary to what Blake had said previously.

That said, it does seem like there are issues between them and if Blake asked her to delete messages or was leaning on Taylor to support her publicly, I could see Taylor distancing herself. But they've been friends a long time. I also don't think Taylor cares AT ALL about Justin Baldoni and has zero interest in helping him with his case or siding with him against Blake.

Just my two cents.