Anonymous
Post 03/19/2026 23:07     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Age guys progression on Aug birthdays playing on their grade in school team

1. It will never happen anywhere in the US. Clubs group by age only.
2. Ok some clubs group Aug birthdays by grade but not that many
3.. Ok clubs around America group Aug birthdays by grade.. But Nova clubs dont know what grade is and only group by age
4. Ok Nova clubs might be playing some Aug birthdays up but its a case by case decision

Next phase will be.
1. Ok some clubs rosters are all the same graduating year but many in Nova arent
2. He's going to reach at straws finding weird edge case players that are playing down likely at weird edge case clubs

The progression is obvious.


No, everyone arguing with you ALWAYS has said things would be case-by-case and against YOUR first position ... This was: That kids should be FORCED to play up to their grade. Something you've now long abandoned. THAT's the big progression.

Anonymous
Post 03/19/2026 22:27     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

The ECNL dude -- who helped create the GA, BTW - explains in that interview how it's going to work at elite levels for a lot of these top clubs which echoes a lot of other messaging already out there.

That's one of the reasons for the ongoing age matrix war -- to drown that out. The age change is discussed between roughly 14-20 minutes of this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdLkj6MmgIA

Highlighting key parts:

I Hate Soccer Guy: I get DMs all the time about, well, my daughter's an August birthday, but she's graduating and whatever. And like, what are you doing? Okay, let's say a kid falls on the junior team. … Junior class team, but she's graduating this year with the seniors or whatever. … I know a lot of Flash girls are just going to stay in their grad year. What are you guys going to do?

ECNL dude: So we actually we spent a lot of time talking to a lot of the top clubs, a lot of like we talked to players, people in the federation, we talked to people in college like what would be the best thing to do because at some point as well you have to rip the band-aid off. It's like if you keep everything as is, you just push the problem down the road. So for us, every single kid is going to where their birth date aligns. Okay? And that includes like no exceptions.

So now if we find a situation now where we need to move a kid because they're just unchallenged, right? Then you can move them from there. Yeah. Right. But let's align it all. We'll rip the band-aid off. Right. And now we can truly see things. And not only that, but you look at like if I'm a if I'm a senior and I have the opportunity to play U17 again, I'm doing it a 100 out of 100 times because there's six playoff spots. There's an environment where you're competing for longer, right? right? You got the opportunity to do things and the motivation level is really high. The senior year always curtails unfortunately. Yeah. Um you know with kids. So you know for me it's a lot of people fall into that and as well you get a great benefit of if you're uncommitted you now get to get a redo on some of the exposure that you know you maybe wouldn't have before if you were on a senior team, right?

So there's there's a lot of benefits. So for us, you know, we're in a situation where everyone's going into that and then we can move things off of that if it's the right thing. Now then you also have to look at it. Okay, if a player goes into an age younger but their grade level is here, how do you help them with showcasing? So for us, we have made sure that in our kind of roster assembly, we created opportunities so that you know at ECNL showcases or Jefferson Cup or something like that, we have the ability to bring this player with us. So now they still get the best of both worlds, right? If you can develop inside this environment, we can also then showcase you with your grade level, but also if you're maybe a little bit of a late developer, like for example, your typical recruitment, your elite players are getting watched a lot, their sophomore years.

Your next tier is mainly the junior year, but let's say you make it to junior year and you've really developed, but now you're on a mainly sophomore team. You get the opportunity to now get re-seen, right, by a lot of those schools that maybe aren't watching junior classes anymore.

I Hate Soccer Guy: I've never thought of it like that.

ECNL dude: Yeah. Okay. So, there's a lot of benefits to it. That's a positive of being playing down again.

Like another positive because the younger parts of the older grade are typically going to be your late developers, right? So, it gives you the opportunity now to really help them because they, you know, whether it's physical maturation, mental, whatever it might be. It's ultimately up to the kid, but they can showcase because we've had a ton of kids that have come in, you know, and been late developers. They've been on second and third teams and they've risen and they've gone, you know, RL to ECNL to power four, right? And that's, you know, one of our one of our goalkeepers is one of my favorite stories of all time. She's a sophomore at Penn State right now. … So you know, yeah, those late developers are there. And that's the thing is you have to have ways to help them, right? And this kind of provides a natural way. If you are a younger part of your grade, you now have a second opportunity that maybe you wouldn't have got before.




Anonymous
Post 03/19/2026 22:21     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:Age guys progression on Aug birthdays playing on their grade in school team

1. It will never happen anywhere in the US. Clubs group by age only.
2. Ok some clubs group Aug birthdays by grade but not that many
3.. Ok clubs around America group Aug birthdays by grade.. But Nova clubs dont know what grade is and only group by age
4. Ok Nova clubs might be playing some Aug birthdays up but its a case by case decision

Next phase will be.
1. Ok some clubs rosters are all the same graduating year but many in Nova arent
2. He's going to reach at straws finding weird edge case players that are playing down likely at weird edge case clubs

The progression is obvious.


No, everyone arguing with you ALWAYS has said things would be case-by-case and against YOUR first position ... This was: That kids should be FORCED to play up to their grade. Something you've now long abandoned. THAT's the big progression.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2026 18:29     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

hahaha age guy is trying to copy the links but doesnt know how so his hack job cut and paste with the wrong info is wrong in another way now
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2026 18:27     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2026 18:18     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Age guys progression on Aug birthdays playing on their grade in school team

1. It will never happen anywhere in the US. Clubs group by age only.
2. Ok some clubs group Aug birthdays by grade but not that many
3.. Ok clubs around America group Aug birthdays by grade.. But Nova clubs dont know what grade is and only group by age
4. Ok Nova clubs might be playing some Aug birthdays up but its a case by case decision

Next phase will be.
1. Ok some clubs rosters are all the same graduating year but many in Nova arent
2. He's going to reach at straws finding weird edge case players that are playing down likely at weird edge case clubs

The progression is obvious.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2026 18:08     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/d...obilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enr...-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/de...6-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors or Sophomores. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 8th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 7th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 5th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 3rd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or Freshman
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2026 18:08     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

General grades for Fall 2026

U19, 8/1/2007 - 7/31, Senior and lower
U17, 8/1/2009 - 7/31, Senior and lower
U16, 8/1/2010 - 7/31, Junior and lower
U15, 8/1/2011 - 7/31, Sophomore and lower
U14, 8/1/2012 - 7/31, Freshman and lower
U13, 8/1/2013 - 7/31, 8th and lower
U12, 8/1/2014 - 7/31, 7th and lower
U11, 8/1/2015 - 7/31, 6th and lower
U10, 8/1/2016 - 7/31, 5th and lower
U9, 8/1/2017 - 7/31, 4th and lower
U8, 8/1/2018 - 7/31, 3rd and lower
U7, 8/1/2019 - 7/31, 2nd and lower
U6, 8/1/2020 - 7/31, 1st and lower
U5, 8/1/2021 - 7/31, Kindergarten and lower
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2026 18:07     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Inclusive soccer, everyone can play. Addresses edge cases. Players can not play down an age group.

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors and lower next fall not Seniors.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007-7/31 ≈ Senior + lower
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009-7/31 ≈ Senior " "
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010-7/31 ≈ Junior " "
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011-7/31 ≈ Sophomore " "
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012-7/31 ≈ Freshman " "
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013-7/31 ≈ 8th grade " "
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014-7/31 ≈ 7th grade " "
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015-7/31 ≈ 6th grade " "
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016-7/31 ≈ 5th grade " "
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017-7/31 ≈ 4rd grade " "
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018-7/31 ≈ 3nd grade " "
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 2nd grade " "
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 1st grade " "
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020-7/31 ≈ Kindergarten " "

Using U13 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 13 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2013
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or lower
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2026 18:03     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2


In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year). Depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

Proof
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1yAq7D-HKcIoe5A3hpocH9GABvwkEErEVw9tZAIMjpYo/mobilebasic
https://www.pausd.org/enrollment/registration/enrollment-process/grade-placement
https://iusd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Grade%20Level%20Placement%20for%20ALL%202026-27_0.pdf

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Sophmores next fall not Juniors. Which is why below is mathematically correct.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2026 18:02     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:Inclusive soccer, everyone can play

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors and lower next fall not Seniors.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007-7/31 ≈ Senior + lower
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009-7/31 ≈ Senior " "
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010-7/31 ≈ Junior " "
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011-7/31 ≈ Sophomore " "
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012-7/31 ≈ Freshman " "
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013-7/31 ≈ 8th grade " "
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014-7/31 ≈ 7th grade " "
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015-7/31 ≈ 6th grade " "
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016-7/31 ≈ 5th grade " "
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017-7/31 ≈ 4rd grade " "
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018-7/31 ≈ 3nd grade " "
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 2nd grade " "
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 1st grade " "
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020-7/31 ≈ Kindergarten " "

Using U13 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 13 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2013
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or lower

Wrong doesnt address all edge cases and conveys that older players can pmay dowm when they cant.
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2026 17:59     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Inclusive soccer, everyone can play

In the 2026–2027 school year, children born after August 1, 2010, will generally be entering 10th grade (Sophomore year) or 11th grade (Junior year), depending on their specific birth month and your local district's cutoff date.

2010s born after 8/1 are most likely to be Juniors and lower next fall not Seniors.

Still 100% correct.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007-7/31 ≈ Senior + lower
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009-7/31 ≈ Senior " "
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010-7/31 ≈ Junior " "
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011-7/31 ≈ Sophomore " "
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012-7/31 ≈ Freshman " "
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013-7/31 ≈ 8th grade " "
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014-7/31 ≈ 7th grade " "
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015-7/31 ≈ 6th grade " "
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016-7/31 ≈ 5th grade " "
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017-7/31 ≈ 4rd grade " "
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018-7/31 ≈ 3nd grade " "
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 2nd grade " "
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2019-7/31 ≈ 1st grade " "
4v4 = U5 = ≤ 8/1/2020-7/31 ≈ Kindergarten " "

Using U13 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 13 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2013
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade or lower
Anonymous
Post 03/19/2026 17:52     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:General grades for Fall 2026

U19, 8/1/2007 - 7/31, Senior and lower
U17, 8/1/2009 - 7/31, Senior and lower
U16, 8/1/2010 - 7/31, Junior and lower
U15, 8/1/2011 - 7/31, Sophomore and lower
U14, 8/1/2012 - 7/31, Freshman and lower
U13, 8/1/2013 - 7/31, 8th and lower
U12, 8/1/2014 - 7/31, 7th and lower
U11, 8/1/2015 - 7/31, 6th and lower
U10, 8/1/2016 - 7/31, 5th and lower
U9, 8/1/2017 - 7/31, 4th and lower
U8, 8/1/2018 - 7/31, 3rd and lower
U7, 8/1/2019 - 7/31, 2nd and lower
U6, 8/1/2020 - 7/31, 1st and lower
U5, 8/1/2021 - 7/31, Kindergarten and lower


Feel good now?