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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, it didn’t really connect the dots enough for me, either.

Ok - explainer - I didn't want to repost the entirety of the two articles.

Ornato is a USSS officer that was working on the detail in the Trump White House. During the Trump administration he took leave from the USSS to go work for the Administration directly as Deputy Chief of Staff - which raised eyebrows at the time since the Secret Service shouldn't be partisan. Ornato coordinated the photo op of Trump with the Bible in Lafayette Square after protestors were forcibly removed.

Between that time and January 6th, Ornato went back into the USSS and was in charge of Secret Service movements on January 6th. So Ornato had the authority to direct Pence's detail to an alternate location, which is why Pence telling the one agent, "I trust you, but you aren't driving that car" is at least something that should be looked into.

I think it's pretty well accepted that the USSS is very conservative as far as risk goes, so maybe whisking Pence to Andrews was just their MO.

But at the end of the day Pence wasn't willing to get into a car driven by the USSS that was directed by Trump's former Deputy Chief of Staff on January 6th.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, it didn’t really connect the dots enough for me, either.

Anonymous wrote:This thread of Meadow's texts show how much BS the GOP inflicted on this country since election day. they all knew it.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/25/politics/read-mark-meadows-texts-sean-hannity-ivanka-trump-marjorie-taylor-greene/index.html

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Best response:

“So they think Antifa is patriotic?”

Btw, whatever happened to Antifa? You don’t hear the GOP or Trump going on and on about it. Almost as if it never really existed.

We have lived in DMV for decades and never met one ANTIFA person. We have met many liberals, many Republicans, anti abortion advocates, die hard Trumpers and anti Trumpers. We have never met one Antifa - I think there largely a figment of extreme paranoid imaginations fighting perceived vague threats from the left.

I have met an ANTIFA.

It was my WWII vet grandfather.

Thank your grandfather for his service. Ukraine is crawling with ANTIFA right now. I pray for their success.

It would be great if GOP voters figured out that they are on the “FA” side now.

+1 These guys were just following orders.

I still wonder what his exact suspicions were regarding that, if any, or if it was just “never go with a kidnapper to a second location” generalized worry.

"Tim Giebels, the lead special agent in charge of the vice president's protective detail, twice asked Pence to evacuate the Capitol, but Pence refused," the book says.

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Pence told Giebels: 'I'm not getting in the car, Tim.'

"I trust you, Tim, but you're not driving the car. If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I'm not getting in the car," he said.

The Pences went to a secure underground area to wait out the riot. At the White House, senior official Keith Kellogg reportedly discussed Pence with Tony Ornato[b], who "oversaw Secret Service movements."

Ornato told Kellogg that Pence's security detail was planning to move him to Joint Base Andrews but Kellogg told Ornato to leave Pence where he was because Pence was determined to stay and finish the job."

https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-refused-car-secret-service-capitol-riot-book-1610326

"The Secret Service also took the unprecedented step of allowing the former detail leader to temporarily leave his job to become a White House political adviser. Anthony Ornato was hired as White House deputy chief of staff earlier this year. "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-to-make-changes-to-presidential-detail-to-bring-on-agents-who-worked-with-biden/2020/12/30/d6fb8fe8-49ce-11eb-a9d9-1e3ec4a928b9_story.html

I hope that connects the dots clearly enough.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Best response:

“So they think Antifa is patriotic?”

Btw, whatever happened to Antifa? You don’t hear the GOP or Trump going on and on about it. Almost as if it never really existed.

We have lived in DMV for decades and never met one ANTIFA person. We have met many liberals, many Republicans, anti abortion advocates, die hard Trumpers and anti Trumpers. We have never met one Antifa - I think there largely a figment of extreme paranoid imaginations fighting perceived vague threats from the left.

I have met an ANTIFA.

It was my WWII vet grandfather.

Thank your grandfather for his service. Ukraine is crawling with ANTIFA right now. I pray for their success.

It would be great if GOP voters figured out that they are on the “FA” side now.

+1 These guys were just following orders.

I still wonder what his exact suspicions were regarding that, if any, or if it was just “never go with a kidnapper to a second location” generalized worry.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Best response:

“So they think Antifa is patriotic?”

Btw, whatever happened to Antifa? You don’t hear the GOP or Trump going on and on about it. Almost as if it never really existed.

We have lived in DMV for decades and never met one ANTIFA person. We have met many liberals, many Republicans, anti abortion advocates, die hard Trumpers and anti Trumpers. We have never met one Antifa - I think there largely a figment of extreme paranoid imaginations fighting perceived vague threats from the left.

I have met an ANTIFA.

It was my WWII vet grandfather.

Thank your grandfather for his service. Ukraine is crawling with ANTIFA right now. I pray for their success.

It would be great if GOP voters figured out that they are on the “FA” side now.

+1 These guys were just following orders.

I still wonder what his exact suspicions were regarding that, if any, or if it was just “never go with a kidnapper to a second location” generalized worry.

He knew there were illegal schemes afoot because he had been asked to participate in them and said he wouldn’t. After Dan Quayle told him they were illegal.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Best response:

“So they think Antifa is patriotic?”

Btw, whatever happened to Antifa? You don’t hear the GOP or Trump going on and on about it. Almost as if it never really existed.

We have lived in DMV for decades and never met one ANTIFA person. We have met many liberals, many Republicans, anti abortion advocates, die hard Trumpers and anti Trumpers. We have never met one Antifa - I think there largely a figment of extreme paranoid imaginations fighting perceived vague threats from the left.

I have met an ANTIFA.

It was my WWII vet grandfather.

Thank your grandfather for his service. Ukraine is crawling with ANTIFA right now. I pray for their success.

It would be great if GOP voters figured out that they are on the “FA” side now.

+1 These guys were just following orders.

I still wonder what his exact suspicions were regarding that, if any, or if it was just “never go with a kidnapper to a second location” generalized worry.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Best response:

“So they think Antifa is patriotic?”

Btw, whatever happened to Antifa? You don’t hear the GOP or Trump going on and on about it. Almost as if it never really existed.

We have lived in DMV for decades and never met one ANTIFA person. We have met many liberals, many Republicans, anti abortion advocates, die hard Trumpers and anti Trumpers. We have never met one Antifa - I think there largely a figment of extreme paranoid imaginations fighting perceived vague threats from the left.

I have met an ANTIFA.

It was my WWII vet grandfather.

Thank your grandfather for his service. Ukraine is crawling with ANTIFA right now. I pray for their success.

It would be great if GOP voters figured out that they are on the “FA” side now.

+1 These guys were just following orders.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Best response:

“So they think Antifa is patriotic?”

Btw, whatever happened to Antifa? You don’t hear the GOP or Trump going on and on about it. Almost as if it never really existed.

We have lived in DMV for decades and never met one ANTIFA person. We have met many liberals, many Republicans, anti abortion advocates, die hard Trumpers and anti Trumpers. We have never met one Antifa - I think there largely a figment of extreme paranoid imaginations fighting perceived vague threats from the left.

I have met an ANTIFA.

It was my WWII vet grandfather.

Thank your grandfather for his service. Ukraine is crawling with ANTIFA right now. I pray for their success.

It would be great if GOP voters figured out that they are on the “FA” side now.

Anonymous wrote:WH Counsel advised the illegality of the plan, and the WH went with it anyhow.

Uh oh.