The pineapple found in JonBenet's digestive tract was described as a fragment. What does that mean? Was it so tiny that it could have come from a piece of candy?

Did it definitely come from the bowl of pineapple in the Ramsy's kitchen?

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Anonymous wrote:For me the timeline--two hours with all of this happening and no one in the house hearing a thing? As investigators pointed out, it was not an easy house to navigate, especially in the dark. But I agree the garrote is key--establishing who new how to make one and why.

Hundreds of people had recently toured the house...

With the lights on and the house staged and (I would imagine) a tour guide leading the way. Did the guide even open the wine cellar door?

Trying to navigate your own house in the dark is hard enough. I can't imagine breaking in to a darkened maize like the Ramsey home and making it up and down several flights of stairs with a child, a flashlight and who knows what else.

House tours I've participated in never include the basement. Was it part of the Ramsey's house tour?

I can't imagine them putting those storage rooms on display like that. They were definitely not staged for show.

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Anonymous wrote:For me the timeline--two hours with all of this happening and no one in the house hearing a thing? As investigators pointed out, it was not an easy house to navigate, especially in the dark. But I agree the garrote is key--establishing who new how to make one and why.

Hundreds of people had recently toured the house...

With the lights on and the house staged and (I would imagine) a tour guide leading the way. Did the guide even open the wine cellar door?

Trying to navigate your own house in the dark is hard enough. I can't imagine breaking in to a darkened maize like the Ramsey home and making it up and down several flights of stairs with a child, a flashlight and who knows what else.

House tours I've participated in never include the basement. Was it part of the Ramsey's house tour?

How far was the laundry room where the blanket was taken from the dryer at to the basement, JB room and the kitchen?

More information about the basement window:

"Evidence Against Possible Intruder Entry through Basement Window

Skeptics believe that intruder entry through this particular window is implausible for several reasons:

Window Sill Too Dirty. The window sill would have been wiped clean by the intruder's butt as s/he slid through the window.
No Fingerprints Found on Window. "Interior dusting of the window for fingerprints was done by crime scene investigators and no latent prints were found" (Sauers 1998).
Too Little Debris on Floor. There would have been more evidence of debris immediately below the window.
Window Closed. No intruder would shut the window after escaping, yet John Ramsey reportedly found it open less than 1" when he searched the basement on the morning of December 26.
Spider Web Evidence. Skeptics of an intruder theory view the spider web evidence as supporting their position. See below."

http://jonbenetramsey.pbworks.com/w/page/11682499/Potential%20Points%20of%20Entry

The scuff marks may have been left by John Ramsey when he went through the window the previous summer.

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Anonymous wrote:Smit and John Ramsey went through the window without a peep. Boulder PD is incompetent as F@#$!

Zero real evidence of the Ramsey's or any other suspect committing this crime.

Were they able to get back out of that window?

I don't think they tried. Even if they could not, who is to say that the intruder didn't slip out one of the doors inside. They didn't have an alarm. By the time the PD arrived everything was contaminated, no way to tell which door was unlocked, they just looked for signs of forced entry--- completely missing an open and broken window.

There were undisturbed spider webs in the window. That was not a point of entry.

This is not true.....

http://solvingjonbenet.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-basement-window-part-4.html

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Anonymous wrote:For me the timeline--two hours with all of this happening and no one in the house hearing a thing? As investigators pointed out, it was not an easy house to navigate, especially in the dark. But I agree the garrote is key--establishing who new how to make one and why.

Hundreds of people had recently toured the house...

With the lights on and the house staged and (I would imagine) a tour guide leading the way. Did the guide even open the wine cellar door?

Trying to navigate your own house in the dark is hard enough. I can't imagine breaking in to a darkened maize like the Ramsey home and making it up and down several flights of stairs with a child, a flashlight and who knows what else.

Anonymous wrote:For me the timeline--two hours with all of this happening and no one in the house hearing a thing? As investigators pointed out, it was not an easy house to navigate, especially in the dark. But I agree the garrote is key--establishing who new how to make one and why.

Hundreds of people had recently toured the house...

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Anonymous wrote:Smit and John Ramsey went through the window without a peep. Boulder PD is incompetent as F@#$!

Zero real evidence of the Ramsey's or any other suspect committing this crime.

Were they able to get back out of that window?

I don't think they tried. Even if they could not, who is to say that the intruder didn't slip out one of the doors inside. They didn't have an alarm. By the time the PD arrived everything was contaminated, no way to tell which door was unlocked, they just looked for signs of forced entry--- completely missing an open and broken window.

There were undisturbed spider webs in the window. That was not a point of entry.

This is not true.....

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Anonymous wrote:Smit and John Ramsey went through the window without a peep. Boulder PD is incompetent as F@#$!

Zero real evidence of the Ramsey's or any other suspect committing this crime.

Were they able to get back out of that window?

I don't think they tried. Even if they could not, who is to say that the intruder didn't slip out one of the doors inside. They didn't have an alarm. By the time the PD arrived everything was contaminated, no way to tell which door was unlocked, they just looked for signs of forced entry--- completely missing an open and broken window.

Actually I seem to recall reading that they did have an alarm system and that it had not gone off. I took that to mean that the alarm was set but no one opened (or broke) a door or window that would have triggered the alarm system.

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Anonymous wrote:Smit and John Ramsey went through the window without a peep. Boulder PD is incompetent as F@#$!

Zero real evidence of the Ramsey's or any other suspect committing this crime.

Were they able to get back out of that window?

I don't think they tried. Even if they could not, who is to say that the intruder didn't slip out one of the doors inside. They didn't have an alarm. By the time the PD arrived everything was contaminated, no way to tell which door was unlocked, they just looked for signs of forced entry--- completely missing an open and broken window.

There were undisturbed spider webs in the window. That was not a point of entry.

For me the timeline--two hours with all of this happening and no one in the house hearing a thing? As investigators pointed out, it was not an easy house to navigate, especially in the dark. But I agree the garrote is key--establishing who new how to make one and why.

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone explain how John or Patsy would have any idea of how to make a garrote? This is not something that is common knowledge. And this crime didn't happen in the age of the internet where you just hop online to find instructions for something. To me, this is something a sadist would know for sure. John and Patsy were not sadists.

Exactly.

I vaguely recall John having been in the military. But it's really not such a complicated thing.

You wouldn't choose to make a brutal weapon like a garrote from your own paint set if you accidentally killed your child. Garrote's used to be used to execute people in foreign countries. This is really beyond any rational thought.

Sure you would if you were staging a murder. There was no sign of an intruder.

Yes, there was.

Boot prints next to JB's body that did match the Ramsey's
DNA in JB's underwear and wasteband that didn't match anyone
Rope in the guest room closet next to JB's room
Open window in basement with random suitcase underneath

None of the above is accurate.

I'm not sure which accounts you're getting but all of the above has been discussed numerous times by various tv and book sources. A Hi-Tech boot print was found in the basement next to JB's body. There was definitely DNA from someone other than the Ramsey's found in JB's underwear and pants. How else would the Ramsey's have been exonerated? They have a DNA profile of this man. If he ever gets arrested for something else, hopefully a DNA match will be made. There are pictures of a big rope in the guest room next to JB's room and a picture of an open window in the basement where Smit got in and out of easily. Also keep in mind the police lied about there being snow all around the house and lack of footprints. Turns out there was no snow in the back of the house. Why would they lie about this?

There were boot prints on the suitcase sitting under the window that Smit suspected was used for the suspect to climb out of the window. There were also scuff marks on the wall under the window from shoes - likely when someone came in.

It's so frustrating to see the video of the police giving Patsy grief about her fingerprints being on the bowl of pineapple. The woman could have unloaded the freaking dishwasher to put the bowl away...same with the fork....of course her prints were going to be on it. It's her bowl in her house - doesn't mean she gave JonBenet the pineapple.

People here keep talking about footprints in the snow - there was no snow around the house when this happened. Just frozen ground.

And, it was absolutely possible for grown men to get into the house through that basement window. Both John Ramsey did it and they showed video of Smit easily doing it.

A garrote is something that people into sexual asphyxiation use. It was used to control the victim. Regular people wouldn't know how to make one (or likely even think of it - especially not in a panic situation).

I don't understand why the police jumped to thinking that Burke hit his sister on the head (not killing her btw) and the parents staged this elaborate scheme - ransom note, sexually abusing their daughter, garrotting her, torturing her - it was an awful death.

If Burke had hit his sister in the head (again, they blow she received didn't kill her) they would have called an ambulance and taken her to the hospital..not tortured and killed their daughter to cover up that their son had hit their daughter.....the simplest explanation is likely the real explanation.

Anonymous wrote:On one of the videos she said she put on new underwear and grabbed the clothes from the night before (black velvet pants & red sweater). The interviewer said that was weird and she laughed and said she did it all of the time.

I think the Boulder police saw the Ramsey's differences as signs of guilt. Too cordial, too vain, too rich, etc -> guilty.

They did from the very beginning. They were small town cops and they were so different from the Ramseys that their own personal judgements made them have severe tunnel vision.