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Finish reading the paragraph you are quoting from, pp. Those specific parents who were already put through the CPS ringer were stupid to put their kids in that situation again...especially after they commented his the kids were traumatized the first time around. So those kids most certainly did not benefit from being traumatized again. Duh.

I agree that the kids did not benefit from being traumatized again. Who traumatized them? CPS and the police, both times.

Who put them in the situation to be picked up by the cops? The parents who had been told explicitly by CPS not to let them go to the park alone.

Actually, what did CPS explicitly say? Do you know?

In any case, that's like "Don't make me hit you again," and it's not how I assign moral responsibility. The kids would have been fine if the police and CPS hadn't picked them up.

I was speeding down the road and everything would have been fine if the police didn't pull me over. Really, the only trauma experience was by me having to stop the car and wait for the ticket ... Stupid police.

Anonymous wrote:What makes you think they have "plenty of money"? Lawyers are expensive and their fees add up quickly.

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Police report shows kids we're stopped at the parking garage. Not walking past it. Unless they move in super slo mo. There were at that spot for at least five minutes before the cop got there. And then sitting I. The car there for over an hour past when the parents say they were due home. Why didn't the parents look for them? There's enough fishy there that it warrants investigation. I hope it turns up nothing and the family lives happily ever after. But I don't blame CPs at all.

No, that's not what the police report says. In any case, at the parking garage is not in the parking garage, standing in front of a parking garage is not looking lost, and elementary-school-aged children are not very young children.

Also, the parents did look for them. And even if the parents hadn't looked for them (which they did do), it makes no sense to say that the police were justified in stopping the kids because an hour later the parents didn't look for them. The parents wouldn't have had to look for them (although they did look for them) if the police hadn't stopped the kids.

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Finish reading the paragraph you are quoting from, pp. Those specific parents who were already put through the CPS ringer were stupid to put their kids in that situation again...especially after they commented his the kids were traumatized the first time around. So those kids most certainly did not benefit from being traumatized again. Duh.

I agree that the kids did not benefit from being traumatized again. Who traumatized them? CPS and the police, both times.

Who put them in the situation to be picked up by the cops? The parents who had been told explicitly by CPS not to let them go to the park alone.

Actually, what did CPS explicitly say? Do you know?

In any case, that's like "Don't make me hit you again," and it's not how I assign moral responsibility. The kids would have been fine if the police and CPS hadn't picked them up.

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Finish reading the paragraph you are quoting from, pp. Those specific parents who were already put through the CPS ringer were stupid to put their kids in that situation again...especially after they commented his the kids were traumatized the first time around. So those kids most certainly did not benefit from being traumatized again. Duh.

I agree that the kids did not benefit from being traumatized again. Who traumatized them? CPS and the police, both times.

Who put them in the situation to be picked up by the cops? The parents who had been told explicitly by CPS not to let them go to the park alone.

Actually, what did CPS explicitly say? Do you know?

In any case, that's like "Don't make me hit you again," and it's not how I assign moral responsibility. The kids would have been fine if the police and CPS hadn't picked them up.

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Not much foot traffic on that spate by the garage on a weekend. No. That's the problem.

That's one block. How about the rest of the area?

Anonymous wrote:In the old days, didn't people send their elementary aged kid - alone - to the store to buy milk? Heck, in my family, they sent the kids to buy cigarettes! Probably booze too...

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Finish reading the paragraph you are quoting from, pp. Those specific parents who were already put through the CPS ringer were stupid to put their kids in that situation again...especially after they commented his the kids were traumatized the first time around. So those kids most certainly did not benefit from being traumatized again. Duh.

I agree that the kids did not benefit from being traumatized again. Who traumatized them? CPS and the police, both times.

Who put them in the situation to be picked up by the cops? The parents who had been told explicitly by CPS not to let them go to the park alone.

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Finish reading the paragraph you are quoting from, pp. Those specific parents who were already put through the CPS ringer were stupid to put their kids in that situation again...especially after they commented his the kids were traumatized the first time around. So those kids most certainly did not benefit from being traumatized again. Duh.

I agree that the kids did not benefit from being traumatized again. Who traumatized them? CPS and the police, both times.

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People are wondering where the parents were looking for the kids and why they didn't come across them sitting in the police car. Was the parking garage not on the route home? How far is it to the park where the kids were left playing and how much ground did they have to cover when they were looking after they realized the kids were late? Were the neighbors helping them look? In my neighborhood, the kids do run around playing and going from house to house. If we couldn't find a kid or two, lots of people would be out looking, and I would think they would notice a police car with the kids sitting in it.

What are you saying? The parents say that they were looking for the kids; but the parents didn't find the kids; therefore the parents are lying and actually didn't look for the kids?

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Finish reading the paragraph you are quoting from, pp. Those specific parents who were already put through the CPS ringer were stupid to put their kids in that situation again...especially after they commented his the kids were traumatized the first time around. So those kids most certainly did not benefit from being traumatized again. Duh.

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Anonymous wrote:Well, in the Ramona books, Ramona and Beezus went all over town by themselves when Ramona was in kindergarten! Art class, the library...

True. How old was Beezus?

Ramona and Beezus went all over town by themselves before Ramona was in kindergarten. In Beezus and Ramona, Beezus is 9 and Ramona is 4.

And in case anybody points out the obvious, namely that this is fiction -- read Beverly Cleary's autobiography, A Girl from Yamhill. A lot of the Beezus and Ramona stories are based on her experiences.

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I believe it is illegal to transport a child younger than 8 without her being properly restrained in a car seat.

Exception for taxis, buses, and I assume police cars also.