Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

At least it will get rid of all of those viral I-can't-believe-the-stupid-stuff-they're-making-my-kids-do-in-math-these-days items, as well as people who object to the Common Core standards on grounds that they're a federal takeover of our children by a Kenyan Muslim dictator.

Funny. I don't remember reading that on this thread.

No, but there is a lot of it floating around the internet.

Oh, it's been posted on this forum a few times, as well.

Anonymous wrote:

At least it will get rid of all of those viral I-can't-believe-the-stupid-stuff-they're-making-my-kids-do-in-math-these-days items, as well as people who object to the Common Core standards on grounds that they're a federal takeover of our children by a Kenyan Muslim dictator.

Funny. I don't remember reading that on this thread.

No, but there is a lot of it floating around the internet.

Anonymous wrote:3. The standards were put out very quickly. Did not follow accepted procedures of vetting. Tests were rolled out and apparently were not checked for validity or reliability.

All three of these objections are objections to process.

Anonymous wrote:

However, if you wish to limit the discussion on Common Core standards to people who are experts in standards development, curriculum development, and teaching, that's fine. At least it will get rid of all of those viral I-can't-believe-the-stupid-stuff-they're-making-my-kids-do-in-math-these-days items, as well as people who object to the Common Core standards on grounds that they're a federal takeover of our children by a Kenyan Muslim dictator.

So, you think the only reason people are complaining is because of Obama. You truly are clueless.

Please read everything I said, not just the final phrase of my final sentence.

At least it will get rid of all of those viral I-can't-believe-the-stupid-stuff-they're-making-my-kids-do-in-math-these-days items, as well as people who object to the Common Core standards on grounds that they're a federal takeover of our children by a Kenyan Muslim dictator.

Funny. I don't remember reading that on this thread.

3. The standards were put out very quickly. Did not follow accepted procedures of vetting. Tests were rolled out and apparently were not checked for validity or reliability.

2. No classroom teachers were among the writers. Only a couple were included in the feedback group.

1. Common core was developed by "experts" whose names were not even released for a long time. You cannot even find much biographical information on the people. Many are tied to publishing companies.

However, if you wish to limit the discussion on Common Core standards to people who are experts in standards development, curriculum development, and teaching, that's fine. At least it will get rid of all of those viral I-can't-believe-the-stupid-stuff-they're-making-my-kids-do-in-math-these-days items, as well as people who object to the Common Core standards on grounds that they're a federal takeover of our children by a Kenyan Muslim dictator.

So, you think the only reason people are complaining is because of Obama. You truly are clueless.

Anonymous wrote:

No. As I said, I'm not an expert in teaching or child development, and I have never said that I was.

Oh, that helps me see why you are so confused about all of this. Why are you so convinced that these Common Core standards are so good and appropriate?

Because I've read them, and they make sense to me.

Because the math standards seem quite similar to Singapore Math, which I have used successfully.

Because my child's teachers think that the Common-Core-aligned curriculum is better than the previous curriculum.

Because I think that the Common-Core-aligned curriculum is better than the previous curriculum.

Because the objections I've read to the Common Core standards all fall into the following categories:

1. Objections to things that are not actually the Common Core standards.
2. Objections by people who do not seem to have read the Common Core standards.
3. Unsupported assertions about the badness of the Common Core standards.
3. Objections about the whole idea of standards.
4. Objections about the process.
5. Objections to things in the Common Core standards, unaccompanied by objections to those same things in other standards.

So no, I'm not persuaded.

However, if you wish to limit the discussion on Common Core standards to people who are experts in standards development, curriculum development, and teaching, that's fine. At least it will get rid of all of those viral I-can't-believe-the-stupid-stuff-they're-making-my-kids-do-in-math-these-days items, as well as people who object to the Common Core standards on grounds that they're a federal takeover of our children by a Kenyan Muslim dictator.

No. As I said, I'm not an expert in teaching or child development, and I have never said that I was.

Oh, that helps me see why you are so confused about all of this. Why are you so convinced that these Common Core standards are so good and appropriate?

All in all it's just another brick in the wall.

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, I have taught kindergarten

Full time? All year in a public school? As a certified teacher?

No. As I said, I'm not an expert in teaching or child development, and I have never said that I was.

ps If you can give more reliable data on the developers and writers of the standards, I would appreciate it. I do understand the site I posted might be biased.

http://stopcommoncorewa.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/fact-sheet-on-common-core-s-developers-writers-validation-committee-and-standards/

Pay attention to item#6. It appears that even the writers of the standards were not experts. Of course, it would help if the CC site would give us more bio information on the writers and developers. But, they haven't.