Anonymous wrote:Yuck! You people claiming the men must have thought the women were 20-22 year old "adults" and therefore these poor men were "tricked" -- eeeeewww!

These 40+ wealthy men should NOT be having sex with 22 year old party girls. If you don't get the power imbalance there, you are kidding yourself.

That is still pedophilia, even if it's technically legal.

Anonymous wrote:Yuck! You people claiming the men must have thought the women were 20-22 year old "adults" and therefore these poor men were "tricked" -- eeeeewww!

These 40+ wealthy men should NOT be having sex with 22 year old party girls. If you don't get the power imbalance there, you are kidding yourself.

That is still pedophilia, even if it's technically legal.

Anonymous wrote:Disgusting to see people make excuses and no wonder we have a sex offender conman in the Oval Office. I’m nearly 60 and I’ve never known anyone who couldn’t tell the difference between a 13 year old and a 20 year or anyone who has been charged with tax evasion. Because it’s not normal.

Anonymous wrote:I am a grown middle aged woman with teenagers who have friends who have more mature looking bodies than myself. All the hormones in our food has created precocious puberty, kids age quicker these days. They weigh too much.

Anonymous wrote:How in the hell did this thread devolve into women vs underage girls. Lawsuits were specifically about underage girls being trafficked and raped by very old men. They were, in fact, children. Epstein and Maxwell were found guilty of these crimes. With this info, you should focus on the multitude of others being protected. This is global scale.

I suspect some parties were just parties and guests were unaware. But many more knew. And many, many more helped themselves to what Epstein and Maxwell were offering. Eventually, the truth will come out. Some will flee. Some will face prison. Some will kill the selves or others.

Trump was most definitely one of them. It was in NYC at Trump Tower. Do your Google searches.

I was a supervisor and part of a new hotel opening. I started at 18 and promoted at 19. Full time college student by day. Front office supervisor by night (3-11). Lots of famous people mulling around. Trump & co slithered into our hotel from time to time. Luckily, lobby was on the upper floor. Security would alert me from ground floor. I’d pull more security to front desk, restaurant/bar, shops. Eyes on them at all times. Always loud, shady, roaming and looking. Hotel employees were young 18-25 and beautiful (guys and girls). Lot of aspiring actors, singers. The night shift hotel workers from multiple hotels hung out at the same bar. We were friends. It was prime time Trump era. And the tea was overflowing. We didn’t know then, what we know now. But we all felt the need for heightened security.

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Anonymous wrote:Epstein’s island was an obvious Mossad run blackmail operation, now Israel gets to bend over the USA and rinse their citizens of their hard earned money thanks to pedophile politicians.

What’s crazy is some of these alleged pedo politicians may have had no clue that these were underaged girls. This was blackmail, pure malice, if true.

They were still likely cheating on their spouses. And really, it isn't that hard to tell if someone is underage or close to it.

Actually, it can be VERY hard to tell. My kids are teens and young adults. When I attend events at the high school, some students look quite old. It has to do with facial features. Their faces just look mature and adult. If I met them in the street, I would totally think they were well into their 20s. By contrast, my kids look preternaturally young. My 20 year old was told he looked 12 when he applied for Global Entry a few weeks ago! He wasn't happy about it

And that’s why it’s strongly recommended by almost everyone that you ascertain someone is of legal age and consenting rather than trafficked before you have sex with them.

Stop excusing these men. They either knew or didn’t care.

I mean BEST case they were sleeping with prostitutes, which is deplorable and can be published fairly. Even if they were adults, pretty sure even a dumb congressman would recognize these “women” were at risk of being trafficked.

And please, there is no way a 14 year old looks like an 18 year old.

Yes, they do, I am a woman who looked the same age from 13-25 probably.

That is not typical. Not even a little bit.

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Anonymous wrote:Epstein’s island was an obvious Mossad run blackmail operation, now Israel gets to bend over the USA and rinse their citizens of their hard earned money thanks to pedophile politicians.

What’s crazy is some of these alleged pedo politicians may have had no clue that these were underaged girls. This was blackmail, pure malice, if true.

They were still likely cheating on their spouses. And really, it isn't that hard to tell if someone is underage or close to it.

Actually, it can be VERY hard to tell. My kids are teens and young adults. When I attend events at the high school, some students look quite old. It has to do with facial features. Their faces just look mature and adult. If I met them in the street, I would totally think they were well into their 20s. By contrast, my kids look preternaturally young. My 20 year old was told he looked 12 when he applied for Global Entry a few weeks ago! He wasn't happy about it

And that’s why it’s strongly recommended by almost everyone that you ascertain someone is of legal age and consenting rather than trafficked before you have sex with them.

Stop excusing these men. They either knew or didn’t care.

I mean BEST case they were sleeping with prostitutes, which is deplorable and can be published fairly. Even if they were adults, pretty sure even a dumb congressman would recognize these “women” were at risk of being trafficked.

And please, there is no way a 14 year old looks like an 18 year old.

Yes, they do, I am a woman who looked the same age from 13-25 probably.

That is not typical. Not even a little bit.

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Anonymous wrote:Epstein’s island was an obvious Mossad run blackmail operation, now Israel gets to bend over the USA and rinse their citizens of their hard earned money thanks to pedophile politicians.

What’s crazy is some of these alleged pedo politicians may have had no clue that these were underaged girls. This was blackmail, pure malice, if true.

They were still likely cheating on their spouses. And really, it isn't that hard to tell if someone is underage or close to it.

Actually, it can be VERY hard to tell. My kids are teens and young adults. When I attend events at the high school, some students look quite old. It has to do with facial features. Their faces just look mature and adult. If I met them in the street, I would totally think they were well into their 20s. By contrast, my kids look preternaturally young. My 20 year old was told he looked 12 when he applied for Global Entry a few weeks ago! He wasn't happy about it

And that’s why it’s strongly recommended by almost everyone that you ascertain someone is of legal age and consenting rather than trafficked before you have sex with them.

Stop excusing these men. They either knew or didn’t care.

I mean BEST case they were sleeping with prostitutes, which is deplorable and can be published fairly. Even if they were adults, pretty sure even a dumb congressman would recognize these “women” were at risk of being trafficked.

And please, there is no way a 14 year old looks like an 18 year old.

Yes, they do, I am a woman who looked the same age from 13-25 probably.

Anonymous wrote:Disgusting to see people make excuses and no wonder we have a sex offender conman in the Oval Office. I’m nearly 60 and I’ve never known anyone who couldn’t tell the difference between a 13 year old and a 20 year or anyone who has been charged with tax evasion. Because it’s not normal.

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Anonymous wrote:Every one of you making excuses gives me chills. I think you’re pedos posting.

No I am not making excuses, I am just saying if these men went to Epstein Island and these girls met them there, these girls appeared to be women. You would have thought they were women, anyone would. Why would they assume these women were 12 years old? Who assumes that? [/quote

Anyone who went to the island would assume they were 12-17, because that’s the age they wanted to have sec with! Even if they were 18 and you are a 50 year old man, you should assume something is wrong. The men weren’t paying anything up front.

Wharton kind of men are you around that would think multiple 18 year old woman are voluntarily having sex with a bunch of 50 year old year old men.

While a 50 year old with an 18 year old is gross, it is legal. I really think these men were fooled into believing the girls were a little older.

You are so naive.

Besides, even if they were tricked and then blackmailed, they are still keeping Epstein’s secrets and withholding justice for these women 25 years later.