Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:12
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
But her emails am I right?????
Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:12
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks again RBG!
No dont you dare put this on the shoulders of one woman. F you. There are a 1000 misjudgments and miscalculations and lies between her and this decision.
RBG couldnt retire under Obama because there wasnt even a vote for Garland. Mitch was never gonna let her be replaced by a dem president. Couldnt retire under Trump who got 3 justices in who are all partisan hacks after influencing one justice to retire. Two of them shouldnt have been considered at all.
No. You will not put this at HER feet.
False. Obama asked her to retire in 2013, before GOP took control of the Senate in 2014 elections for Jan 2015.
OH i didnt realize it was political and a president should ask someone to step down. no see this is the bullshit, even with this reasoning you cant lay this at her feet and hers alone. its like saying a pregnancy is alone a womans issue. roe v wade does not lie at the feet of rbg alone. if anything it lays at the feet of white women who voted for trump. f&&& them not her.
The fault clearly falls on the justices who vote to overturn Roe. Not RGB or McConnell.
NP. No, adults can and should be able to take a breath and tell the truth here. Yes, the lying liars ACB and Kavanaugh and the touchingly fake Sen. Collins and McConnell AND RGB and her apparent belief in her own immortality after multiple bouts of cancer and reaching her 75th birthday ALL played roles in this.
I’m devastated by this. Roe has been the prime target for a growing faction of Republicans since 1973, and the Reaganite nightmare of destroying federal governance and degrading all of its branches has been known. The disciplined, steady push to install crackpot liars into state Secretary of State roles by the GOP has been public. The Fed Soc list and disciplined, steady push to get their justices in at the fed level has been public. There has never - EVER - been an appetite in the Democratic Party upper apparatus to push back in as disciplined a manner, to use ALL tools to fight the fack back, and I’m sick to facking death of the retreat into protecting sacred cows like Her Holiness RGB, the legacy of Obama, and now, as Elie Mystal has written in his column for The Nation, the failure of appetite in Biden to make stacking the Court or otherwise putting up a damned street fight regarding Thomas/his corrupt wife as sacrosanct “we don’t talk about that!’ things. I just feel disgusted overall and no attempt to lionize the dead changes that for me.
not protecting her- tired of women taking the blame for the actions or inactions of a majority of men.
trying to blame her for how we got here is reductive AND plays into misogyny
there are multiple comments of thanks RBG as if this lays at her feet alone and it is tiresome
+1 If Thurgood Marshall hadn’t retired Gore would have gotten his full recount and won, but no one gives him crap for it.
Lol. Marshall died 2 years after Thomas replaced him, around 7.5 years before Bush v Gore.
Check who was President when Marshall died, chief.
Hi Chief! See, Marshall begat Thomas because Marshall thought he was going to die, and he - not being Nostradamus - didn’t think a serially unfaithful Arkansan who fetishized JFK would win election.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:11
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks again RBG!
No dont you dare put this on the shoulders of one woman. F you. There are a 1000 misjudgments and miscalculations and lies between her and this decision.
RBG couldnt retire under Obama because there wasnt even a vote for Garland. Mitch was never gonna let her be replaced by a dem president. Couldnt retire under Trump who got 3 justices in who are all partisan hacks after influencing one justice to retire. Two of them shouldnt have been considered at all.
No. You will not put this at HER feet.
False. Obama asked her to retire in 2013, before GOP took control of the Senate in 2014 elections for Jan 2015.
OH i didnt realize it was political and a president should ask someone to step down. no see this is the bullshit, even with this reasoning you cant lay this at her feet and hers alone. its like saying a pregnancy is alone a womans issue. roe v wade does not lie at the feet of rbg alone. if anything it lays at the feet of white women who voted for trump. f&&& them not her.
The fault clearly falls on the justices who vote to overturn Roe. Not RGB or McConnell.
NP. No, adults can and should be able to take a breath and tell the truth here. Yes, the lying liars ACB and Kavanaugh and the touchingly fake Sen. Collins and McConnell AND RGB and her apparent belief in her own immortality after multiple bouts of cancer and reaching her 75th birthday ALL played roles in this.
I’m devastated by this. Roe has been the prime target for a growing faction of Republicans since 1973, and the Reaganite nightmare of destroying federal governance and degrading all of its branches has been known. The disciplined, steady push to install crackpot liars into state Secretary of State roles by the GOP has been public. The Fed Soc list and disciplined, steady push to get their justices in at the fed level has been public. There has never - EVER - been an appetite in the Democratic Party upper apparatus to push back in as disciplined a manner, to use ALL tools to fight the fack back, and I’m sick to facking death of the retreat into protecting sacred cows like Her Holiness RGB, the legacy of Obama, and now, as Elie Mystal has written in his column for The Nation, the failure of appetite in Biden to make stacking the Court or otherwise putting up a damned street fight regarding Thomas/his corrupt wife as sacrosanct “we don’t talk about that!’ things. I just feel disgusted overall and no attempt to lionize the dead changes that for me.
not protecting her- tired of women taking the blame for the actions or inactions of a majority of men.
trying to blame her for how we got here is reductive AND plays into misogyny
there are multiple comments of thanks RBG as if this lays at her feet alone and it is tiresome
DP. Whether you find it "tiresome" or not is neither here nor there. Women are responsible for their actions, to say otherwise is offensive. RBG is responsible for her actions which were driven by hubris. So are Democrats who think they are so above it all that they won't put up a damned fight. Why would I vote for them? They don't do anything about anything.
She is responsible for one action, hers alone, but that is not what got us here. And somehow this turned into democrats dont fight or do anything....ummm ok.because an action that is damaging is better than no action at all?
You’re such a sanctimonious goddamned simpleton. We DON’T fight, first of all. Second, you ridiculous bim, I listed a slew of people who are the mothers and fathers of this mess and sure as shit, RBG is one of them. You liar. My god, you’re a liar.
Take your energy elsewhere. I am not a liar. You are the simpleton- reducing this outcome to a few people and not laying it at the feet of people who acted in FAVOR of it.
Yasss queen, sassy comments about McConnells neck folds and capacity for evil will change things within D control. Perhaps you suggest a women’s wine luncheon to discuss how much we rilly rilly hate Sen. Collins. Action!
Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:10
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks again RBG!
No dont you dare put this on the shoulders of one woman. F you. There are a 1000 misjudgments and miscalculations and lies between her and this decision.
RBG couldnt retire under Obama because there wasnt even a vote for Garland. Mitch was never gonna let her be replaced by a dem president. Couldnt retire under Trump who got 3 justices in who are all partisan hacks after influencing one justice to retire. Two of them shouldnt have been considered at all.
No. You will not put this at HER feet.
False. Obama asked her to retire in 2013, before GOP took control of the Senate in 2014 elections for Jan 2015.
OH i didnt realize it was political and a president should ask someone to step down. no see this is the bullshit, even with this reasoning you cant lay this at her feet and hers alone. its like saying a pregnancy is alone a womans issue. roe v wade does not lie at the feet of rbg alone. if anything it lays at the feet of white women who voted for trump. f&&& them not her.
The fault clearly falls on the justices who vote to overturn Roe. Not RGB or McConnell.
NP. No, adults can and should be able to take a breath and tell the truth here. Yes, the lying liars ACB and Kavanaugh and the touchingly fake Sen. Collins and McConnell AND RGB and her apparent belief in her own immortality after multiple bouts of cancer and reaching her 75th birthday ALL played roles in this.
I’m devastated by this. Roe has been the prime target for a growing faction of Republicans since 1973, and the Reaganite nightmare of destroying federal governance and degrading all of its branches has been known. The disciplined, steady push to install crackpot liars into state Secretary of State roles by the GOP has been public. The Fed Soc list and disciplined, steady push to get their justices in at the fed level has been public. There has never - EVER - been an appetite in the Democratic Party upper apparatus to push back in as disciplined a manner, to use ALL tools to fight the fack back, and I’m sick to facking death of the retreat into protecting sacred cows like Her Holiness RGB, the legacy of Obama, and now, as Elie Mystal has written in his column for The Nation, the failure of appetite in Biden to make stacking the Court or otherwise putting up a damned street fight regarding Thomas/his corrupt wife as sacrosanct “we don’t talk about that!’ things. I just feel disgusted overall and no attempt to lionize the dead changes that for me.
not protecting her- tired of women taking the blame for the actions or inactions of a majority of men.
trying to blame her for how we got here is reductive AND plays into misogyny
there are multiple comments of thanks RBG as if this lays at her feet alone and it is tiresome
+1 If Thurgood Marshall hadn’t retired Gore would have gotten his full recount and won, but no one gives him crap for it.
Lol. Marshall died 2 years after Thomas replaced him, around 7.5 years before Bush v Gore.
Check who was President when Marshall died, chief.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:08
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks again RBG!
No dont you dare put this on the shoulders of one woman. F you. There are a 1000 misjudgments and miscalculations and lies between her and this decision.
RBG couldnt retire under Obama because there wasnt even a vote for Garland. Mitch was never gonna let her be replaced by a dem president. Couldnt retire under Trump who got 3 justices in who are all partisan hacks after influencing one justice to retire. Two of them shouldnt have been considered at all.
No. You will not put this at HER feet.
False. Obama asked her to retire in 2013, before GOP took control of the Senate in 2014 elections for Jan 2015.
OH i didnt realize it was political and a president should ask someone to step down. no see this is the bullshit, even with this reasoning you cant lay this at her feet and hers alone. its like saying a pregnancy is alone a womans issue. roe v wade does not lie at the feet of rbg alone. if anything it lays at the feet of white women who voted for trump. f&&& them not her.
The fault clearly falls on the justices who vote to overturn Roe. Not RGB or McConnell.
NP. No, adults can and should be able to take a breath and tell the truth here. Yes, the lying liars ACB and Kavanaugh and the touchingly fake Sen. Collins and McConnell AND RGB and her apparent belief in her own immortality after multiple bouts of cancer and reaching her 75th birthday ALL played roles in this.
I’m devastated by this. Roe has been the prime target for a growing faction of Republicans since 1973, and the Reaganite nightmare of destroying federal governance and degrading all of its branches has been known. The disciplined, steady push to install crackpot liars into state Secretary of State roles by the GOP has been public. The Fed Soc list and disciplined, steady push to get their justices in at the fed level has been public. There has never - EVER - been an appetite in the Democratic Party upper apparatus to push back in as disciplined a manner, to use ALL tools to fight the fack back, and I’m sick to facking death of the retreat into protecting sacred cows like Her Holiness RGB, the legacy of Obama, and now, as Elie Mystal has written in his column for The Nation, the failure of appetite in Biden to make stacking the Court or otherwise putting up a damned street fight regarding Thomas/his corrupt wife as sacrosanct “we don’t talk about that!’ things. I just feel disgusted overall and no attempt to lionize the dead changes that for me.
not protecting her- tired of women taking the blame for the actions or inactions of a majority of men.
trying to blame her for how we got here is reductive AND plays into misogyny
there are multiple comments of thanks RBG as if this lays at her feet alone and it is tiresome
DP. Whether you find it "tiresome" or not is neither here nor there. Women are responsible for their actions, to say otherwise is offensive. RBG is responsible for her actions which were driven by hubris. So are Democrats who think they are so above it all that they won't put up a damned fight. Why would I vote for them? They don't do anything about anything.
She is responsible for one action, hers alone, but that is not what got us here. And somehow this turned into democrats dont fight or do anything....ummm ok.
You’re such a sanctimonious goddamned simpleton. We DON’T fight, first of all. Second, you ridiculous bim, I listed a slew of people who are the mothers and fathers of this mess and sure as shit, RBG is one of them. You liar. My god, you’re a liar.
But why are only women being discussed? What about the men who have been chipping away at women’s rights? They hold greater power in our society.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:08
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Has a decision ever been leaked like this before? Seems kind of shocking this would happen. The leak, i mean, not the decisoin.
Probably a SC liberal law clerk for sure. To stir up trouble and get judges threatened.
Informed speculation on Twitter was a sotomayor clerk
NO surprise there
From NYT today:
“I would be wary of jumping to a conclusion that the leaker is necessarily someone who opposes overturning Roe v. Wade,” said Richard L. Hasen, a law professor at the University of California, Irvine.
Kermit Roosevelt, a law professor at the University of Pennsylvania, said the source was probably trying to increase the price of switching positions.
“In terms of who leaked it and why, it seems much more likely to me that it comes from the right in response to an actual or threatened defection by one of the five who voted to overturn Roe,” he said. “Leaking this early draft makes that more costly for a defector because now people will think that they changed their vote after the leak in response to public outrage.”
Professor Hasen said there was another benefit to the right from the disclosure of the draft opinion.
“This kind of leak could in fact help the likely future majority overturning Roe if it deflects the conversation to the question of Supreme Court secrecy and the danger of leaks to the legitimacy of the process,” he said. “That’s better than a conversation about the potential illegitimacy of overturning longstanding precedent allowing reproductive choice. It also could be intended to soften the blow by signaling to everyone the earthquake to come.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/03/us/politics/supreme-court-leak-roe-v-wade-abortion.html?name=styln-abortion-us®ion=TOP_BANNER&block=storyline_menu_recirc&action=click&pgtype=LegacyCollection&variant=show&is_new=false
Yup. This release is like a numbing agent. Weeks of small scale protests in front of the courts with F You Alito signs will give way to Jackson taking Breyer’s seat and business as uzh. We wont talk much more about Ginni, Clarence, and recusal. We’ll flop over on demand, as we always do. Please tell me where I’m wrong, because I don’t want to be right.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:07
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Would clerks from the opposing Justices even have access to a draft opinion to which they are in the minority and are not involved in drafting?
This had to have leaked from one of the conservative justice's offices.
VEEP is scheduled to speak today at pro abortion group. Not spontaneous. And there are two high profile primaries today. This hit was planned
The leak doesn’t benefit the liberal justices or Democrats in any way.
And if you’re the dumb “hoax” poster who started the different thread, Roberts confirmed that it’s authentic. https://www.thedailybeast.com/furious-chief-justice-john-roberts-confirms-leaked-draft-overturning-roe-v-wade-by-supreme-court-is-authentic
Sure it does! It distracts the nation from the horrid economic climate and bad numbers Psaki is warning people about.
If it hadn’t leaked it would have done all those same things, closer to the midterms.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:07
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Once a Justice is confirmed, they're not bound by anything, really. Whatever they said in their confirmation hearings or other prior conversations doesn't prevent them from subsequently changing their mind. That's kind of the whole point of an independent judiciary. They aren't beholden to anyone.
They need to be accountable. This legislating through the courts is bs and anti democratic. The court must go.
Roe was “legislating through the courts.” Overturning Roe is…not. It returns the issue to state legislatures.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:07
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks again RBG!
No dont you dare put this on the shoulders of one woman. F you. There are a 1000 misjudgments and miscalculations and lies between her and this decision.
RBG couldnt retire under Obama because there wasnt even a vote for Garland. Mitch was never gonna let her be replaced by a dem president. Couldnt retire under Trump who got 3 justices in who are all partisan hacks after influencing one justice to retire. Two of them shouldnt have been considered at all.
No. You will not put this at HER feet.
False. Obama asked her to retire in 2013, before GOP took control of the Senate in 2014 elections for Jan 2015.
OH i didnt realize it was political and a president should ask someone to step down. no see this is the bullshit, even with this reasoning you cant lay this at her feet and hers alone. its like saying a pregnancy is alone a womans issue. roe v wade does not lie at the feet of rbg alone. if anything it lays at the feet of white women who voted for trump. f&&& them not her.
The fault clearly falls on the justices who vote to overturn Roe. Not RGB or McConnell.
NP. No, adults can and should be able to take a breath and tell the truth here. Yes, the lying liars ACB and Kavanaugh and the touchingly fake Sen. Collins and McConnell AND RGB and her apparent belief in her own immortality after multiple bouts of cancer and reaching her 75th birthday ALL played roles in this.
I’m devastated by this. Roe has been the prime target for a growing faction of Republicans since 1973, and the Reaganite nightmare of destroying federal governance and degrading all of its branches has been known. The disciplined, steady push to install crackpot liars into state Secretary of State roles by the GOP has been public. The Fed Soc list and disciplined, steady push to get their justices in at the fed level has been public. There has never - EVER - been an appetite in the Democratic Party upper apparatus to push back in as disciplined a manner, to use ALL tools to fight the fack back, and I’m sick to facking death of the retreat into protecting sacred cows like Her Holiness RGB, the legacy of Obama, and now, as Elie Mystal has written in his column for The Nation, the failure of appetite in Biden to make stacking the Court or otherwise putting up a damned street fight regarding Thomas/his corrupt wife as sacrosanct “we don’t talk about that!’ things. I just feel disgusted overall and no attempt to lionize the dead changes that for me.
not protecting her- tired of women taking the blame for the actions or inactions of a majority of men.
trying to blame her for how we got here is reductive AND plays into misogyny
there are multiple comments of thanks RBG as if this lays at her feet alone and it is tiresome
DP. Whether you find it "tiresome" or not is neither here nor there. Women are responsible for their actions, to say otherwise is offensive. RBG is responsible for her actions which were driven by hubris. So are Democrats who think they are so above it all that they won't put up a damned fight. Why would I vote for them? They don't do anything about anything.
She is responsible for one action, hers alone, but that is not what got us here. And somehow this turned into democrats dont fight or do anything....ummm ok.
You’re such a sanctimonious goddamned simpleton. We DON’T fight, first of all. Second, you ridiculous bim, I listed a slew of people who are the mothers and fathers of this mess and sure as shit, RBG is one of them. You liar. My god, you’re a liar.
Take your energy elsewhere. I am not a liar. You are the simpleton- reducing this outcome to a few people and not laying it at the feet of people who acted in FAVOR of it.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:07
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks again RBG!
No dont you dare put this on the shoulders of one woman. F you. There are a 1000 misjudgments and miscalculations and lies between her and this decision.
RBG couldnt retire under Obama because there wasnt even a vote for Garland. Mitch was never gonna let her be replaced by a dem president. Couldnt retire under Trump who got 3 justices in who are all partisan hacks after influencing one justice to retire. Two of them shouldnt have been considered at all.
No. You will not put this at HER feet.
False. Obama asked her to retire in 2013, before GOP took control of the Senate in 2014 elections for Jan 2015.
OH i didnt realize it was political and a president should ask someone to step down. no see this is the bullshit, even with this reasoning you cant lay this at her feet and hers alone. its like saying a pregnancy is alone a womans issue. roe v wade does not lie at the feet of rbg alone. if anything it lays at the feet of white women who voted for trump. f&&& them not her.
The fault clearly falls on the justices who vote to overturn Roe. Not RGB or McConnell.
NP. No, adults can and should be able to take a breath and tell the truth here. Yes, the lying liars ACB and Kavanaugh and the touchingly fake Sen. Collins and McConnell AND RGB and her apparent belief in her own immortality after multiple bouts of cancer and reaching her 75th birthday ALL played roles in this.
I’m devastated by this. Roe has been the prime target for a growing faction of Republicans since 1973, and the Reaganite nightmare of destroying federal governance and degrading all of its branches has been known. The disciplined, steady push to install crackpot liars into state Secretary of State roles by the GOP has been public. The Fed Soc list and disciplined, steady push to get their justices in at the fed level has been public. There has never - EVER - been an appetite in the Democratic Party upper apparatus to push back in as disciplined a manner, to use ALL tools to fight the fack back, and I’m sick to facking death of the retreat into protecting sacred cows like Her Holiness RGB, the legacy of Obama, and now, as Elie Mystal has written in his column for The Nation, the failure of appetite in Biden to make stacking the Court or otherwise putting up a damned street fight regarding Thomas/his corrupt wife as sacrosanct “we don’t talk about that!’ things. I just feel disgusted overall and no attempt to lionize the dead changes that for me.
not protecting her- tired of women taking the blame for the actions or inactions of a majority of men.
trying to blame her for how we got here is reductive AND plays into misogyny
there are multiple comments of thanks RBG as if this lays at her feet alone and it is tiresome
DP. Whether you find it "tiresome" or not is neither here nor there. Women are responsible for their actions, to say otherwise is offensive. RBG is responsible for her actions which were driven by hubris. So are Democrats who think they are so above it all that they won't put up a damned fight. Why would I vote for them? They don't do anything about anything.
She is responsible for one action, hers alone, but that is not what got us here. And somehow this turned into democrats dont fight or do anything....ummm ok.
You’re such a sanctimonious goddamned simpleton. We DON’T fight, first of all. Second, you ridiculous bim, I listed a slew of people who are the mothers and fathers of this mess and sure as shit, RBG is one of them. You liar. My god, you’re a liar.
Wow, you have some big feelings about this.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:07
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So do women not get the right to life anymore?. Last I heard it was in the Constitution and I shouldn't have to give up my life to bring another one into this world
Are you serious? It's not in the Constitution. It's in the Declaration of Independence.
It is in the Constitution, though.
“No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:06
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Has a decision ever been leaked like this before? Seems kind of shocking this would happen. The leak, i mean, not the decisoin.
Probably a SC liberal law clerk for sure. To stir up trouble and get judges threatened.
Informed speculation on Twitter was a sotomayor clerk
NO surprise there
From NYT today:
“I would be wary of jumping to a conclusion that the leaker is necessarily someone who opposes overturning Roe v. Wade,” said Richard L. Hasen, a law professor at the University of California, Irvine.
Kermit Roosevelt, a law professor at the University of Pennsylvania, said the source was probably trying to increase the price of switching positions.
“In terms of who leaked it and why, it seems much more likely to me that it comes from the right in response to an actual or threatened defection by one of the five who voted to overturn Roe,” he said. “Leaking this early draft makes that more costly for a defector because now people will think that they changed their vote after the leak in response to public outrage.”
Professor Hasen said there was another benefit to the right from the disclosure of the draft opinion.
“This kind of leak could in fact help the likely future majority overturning Roe if it deflects the conversation to the question of Supreme Court secrecy and the danger of leaks to the legitimacy of the process,” he said. “That’s better than a conversation about the potential illegitimacy of overturning longstanding precedent allowing reproductive choice. It also could be intended to soften the blow by signaling to everyone the earthquake to come.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/03/us/politics/supreme-court-leak-roe-v-wade-abortion.html?name=styln-abortion-us®ion=TOP_BANNER&block=storyline_menu_recirc&action=click&pgtype=LegacyCollection&variant=show&is_new=false
Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:06
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks again RBG!
No dont you dare put this on the shoulders of one woman. F you. There are a 1000 misjudgments and miscalculations and lies between her and this decision.
RBG couldnt retire under Obama because there wasnt even a vote for Garland. Mitch was never gonna let her be replaced by a dem president. Couldnt retire under Trump who got 3 justices in who are all partisan hacks after influencing one justice to retire. Two of them shouldnt have been considered at all.
No. You will not put this at HER feet.
False. Obama asked her to retire in 2013, before GOP took control of the Senate in 2014 elections for Jan 2015.
OH i didnt realize it was political and a president should ask someone to step down. no see this is the bullshit, even with this reasoning you cant lay this at her feet and hers alone. its like saying a pregnancy is alone a womans issue. roe v wade does not lie at the feet of rbg alone. if anything it lays at the feet of white women who voted for trump. f&&& them not her.
The fault clearly falls on the justices who vote to overturn Roe. Not RGB or McConnell.
NP. No, adults can and should be able to take a breath and tell the truth here. Yes, the lying liars ACB and Kavanaugh and the touchingly fake Sen. Collins and McConnell AND RGB and her apparent belief in her own immortality after multiple bouts of cancer and reaching her 75th birthday ALL played roles in this.
I’m devastated by this. Roe has been the prime target for a growing faction of Republicans since 1973, and the Reaganite nightmare of destroying federal governance and degrading all of its branches has been known. The disciplined, steady push to install crackpot liars into state Secretary of State roles by the GOP has been public. The Fed Soc list and disciplined, steady push to get their justices in at the fed level has been public. There has never - EVER - been an appetite in the Democratic Party upper apparatus to push back in as disciplined a manner, to use ALL tools to fight the fack back, and I’m sick to facking death of the retreat into protecting sacred cows like Her Holiness RGB, the legacy of Obama, and now, as Elie Mystal has written in his column for The Nation, the failure of appetite in Biden to make stacking the Court or otherwise putting up a damned street fight regarding Thomas/his corrupt wife as sacrosanct “we don’t talk about that!’ things. I just feel disgusted overall and no attempt to lionize the dead changes that for me.
not protecting her- tired of women taking the blame for the actions or inactions of a majority of men.
trying to blame her for how we got here is reductive AND plays into misogyny
there are multiple comments of thanks RBG as if this lays at her feet alone and it is tiresome
DP. Whether you find it "tiresome" or not is neither here nor there. Women are responsible for their actions, to say otherwise is offensive. RBG is responsible for her actions which were driven by hubris. So are Democrats who think they are so above it all that they won't put up a damned fight. Why would I vote for them? They don't do anything about anything.
She is responsible for one action, hers alone, but that is not what got us here. And somehow this turned into democrats dont fight or do anything....ummm ok.
You’re such a sanctimonious goddamned simpleton. We DON’T fight, first of all. Second, you ridiculous bim, I listed a slew of people who are the mothers and fathers of this mess and sure as shit, RBG is one of them. You liar. My god, you’re a liar.
Yelling and name calling isn't going to get you anywhere.
How about your eye rolling emojis? Girl, bye.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:05
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thanks again RBG!
No dont you dare put this on the shoulders of one woman. F you. There are a 1000 misjudgments and miscalculations and lies between her and this decision.
RBG couldnt retire under Obama because there wasnt even a vote for Garland. Mitch was never gonna let her be replaced by a dem president. Couldnt retire under Trump who got 3 justices in who are all partisan hacks after influencing one justice to retire. Two of them shouldnt have been considered at all.
No. You will not put this at HER feet.
False. Obama asked her to retire in 2013, before GOP took control of the Senate in 2014 elections for Jan 2015.
OH i didnt realize it was political and a president should ask someone to step down. no see this is the bullshit, even with this reasoning you cant lay this at her feet and hers alone. its like saying a pregnancy is alone a womans issue. roe v wade does not lie at the feet of rbg alone. if anything it lays at the feet of white women who voted for trump. f&&& them not her.
The fault clearly falls on the justices who vote to overturn Roe. Not RGB or McConnell.
NP. No, adults can and should be able to take a breath and tell the truth here. Yes, the lying liars ACB and Kavanaugh and the touchingly fake Sen. Collins and McConnell AND RGB and her apparent belief in her own immortality after multiple bouts of cancer and reaching her 75th birthday ALL played roles in this.
I’m devastated by this. Roe has been the prime target for a growing faction of Republicans since 1973, and the Reaganite nightmare of destroying federal governance and degrading all of its branches has been known. The disciplined, steady push to install crackpot liars into state Secretary of State roles by the GOP has been public. The Fed Soc list and disciplined, steady push to get their justices in at the fed level has been public. There has never - EVER - been an appetite in the Democratic Party upper apparatus to push back in as disciplined a manner, to use ALL tools to fight the fack back, and I’m sick to facking death of the retreat into protecting sacred cows like Her Holiness RGB, the legacy of Obama, and now, as Elie Mystal has written in his column for The Nation, the failure of appetite in Biden to make stacking the Court or otherwise putting up a damned street fight regarding Thomas/his corrupt wife as sacrosanct “we don’t talk about that!’ things. I just feel disgusted overall and no attempt to lionize the dead changes that for me.
not protecting her- tired of women taking the blame for the actions or inactions of a majority of men.
trying to blame her for how we got here is reductive AND plays into misogyny
there are multiple comments of thanks RBG as if this lays at her feet alone and it is tiresome
DP. Whether you find it "tiresome" or not is neither here nor there. Women are responsible for their actions, to say otherwise is offensive. RBG is responsible for her actions which were driven by hubris. So are Democrats who think they are so above it all that they won't put up a damned fight. Why would I vote for them? They don't do anything about anything.
She is responsible for one action, hers alone, but that is not what got us here. And somehow this turned into democrats dont fight or do anything....ummm ok.
You’re such a sanctimonious goddamned simpleton. We DON’T fight, first of all. Second, you ridiculous bim, I listed a slew of people who are the mothers and fathers of this mess and sure as shit, RBG is one of them. You liar. My god, you’re a liar.
Yelling and name calling isn't going to get you anywhere.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 15:05
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is it so hard for congress to pass a law protecting abortion rights at the federal level?
Because Democratic votes are diluted by the constant cheating of the GOP, for one thing.
Have Democrats tried drafting and passing such a law, which has broad support among US citizens? Relying on flawed past judicial rulings to maintain such an important right is fragile, as we've just observed.
Two REPUBLICANS tried and failed.
https://19thnews.org/2022/02/collins-murkowski-introduce-alternative-senate-bill-abortion-rights/
They should push for it again. Use all of their political will.
Did you read it? They proposed an amendment to a bill they then voted against allowing to proceed.
It that the bill that allows abortion until birth?