Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It was a well done episode. I'm surprised that nobody mentioned that Randall called William "Dad" for the first time when he was holding his face in his hands. That being said, I can't get past the fact that William abandoned his son. He could have gotten his shit together and raised him but chose not to. Not a big William fan so I'm glad this storyline is done.
He did get his shit together, and then asked to be a part of his life, but Mandy Moore froze him out.
Ok so this is one thing I didn't get. They showed William's downward spiral into drug use. They also showed him telling Mandy Moore that he was clean and wanted to be a part of his son’s life. I get that she didn’t want him to do that. What I don’t get is what William did for the next 30+ years? He was clean for a while yet never went back to see his cousin or join back up with the band. In some ways they make it sounds like he was a drug addict for a lot longer than he really was.
In last night's episode William told his cousin that he didn't go back because he was embarrassed about what he (William) had become.
I saw that, but was still confused because it seemed like his drug years didn't last that long, based on when he told Rebecca he was clean and wanted a relationship with his son. So what did he do for those 30yrs?
It's likely William went back to drugs after Rebecca made sure he wasn't part of Randall's life. It can be a lifelong struggle. My brother just passed away from an overdose after 30 years of using. He had clean periods of time, but lived with so much shame.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:so many things I loved about this episode.
Old William hugging his young mom when he dies. OMG that blew me away
William thanking Jack for raising his son and basically seeing that it took the two of them: WIlliam and Jack to make Randall the great man he is today
when Randall held William's head th3e way his dad did for him - I thought that was a bit too melodramatic for me - William wasn't having a panic attack and it seemed a bit contrived.
You don't know that William was clean and sober for 30 years - he could have been in and out of sobriety over those years.
I didn't think the connection between Randall and all the cousins seemed real. Like the other pp said - he only knew WIlliam for a few months and then he just met the cousins - I don't know. I get why they did it, but didn't resonate with me
I thought Randall doing the Oprah bit ("YOU get a cousin! "And YOU get a cousin!") was funny.
Anonymous wrote:so many things I loved about this episode.
Old William hugging his young mom when he dies. OMG that blew me away
William thanking Jack for raising his son and basically seeing that it took the two of them: WIlliam and Jack to make Randall the great man he is today
when Randall held William's head th3e way his dad did for him - I thought that was a bit too melodramatic for me - William wasn't having a panic attack and it seemed a bit contrived.
You don't know that William was clean and sober for 30 years - he could have been in and out of sobriety over those years.
I didn't think the connection between Randall and all the cousins seemed real. Like the other pp said - he only knew WIlliam for a few months and then he just met the cousins - I don't know. I get why they did it, but didn't resonate with me
Anonymous wrote:I came apart the first time when William was thanking Jack for doing such a great job with Randall. I could barely contain myself by the end. I think that song at the end sung by a girl was the same song that William wrote for his cousin's bands. Excellent episode, but literally painful for me.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It was a well done episode. I'm surprised that nobody mentioned that Randall called William "Dad" for the first time when he was holding his face in his hands. That being said, I can't get past the fact that William abandoned his son. He could have gotten his shit together and raised him but chose not to. Not a big William fan so I'm glad this storyline is done.
He did get his shit together, and then asked to be a part of his life, but Mandy Moore froze him out.
Ok so this is one thing I didn't get. They showed William's downward spiral into drug use. They also showed him telling Mandy Moore that he was clean and wanted to be a part of his son’s life. I get that she didn’t want him to do that. What I don’t get is what William did for the next 30+ years? He was clean for a while yet never went back to see his cousin or join back up with the band. In some ways they make it sounds like he was a drug addict for a lot longer than he really was.
In last night's episode William told his cousin that he didn't go back because he was embarrassed about what he (William) had become.
I saw that, but was still confused because it seemed like his drug years didn't last that long, based on when he told Rebecca he was clean and wanted a relationship with his son. So what did he do for those 30yrs?
It's likely William went back to drugs after Rebecca made sure he wasn't part of Randall's life. It can be a lifelong struggle. My brother just passed away from an overdose after 30 years of using. He had clean periods of time, but lived with so much shame.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It was a well done episode. I'm surprised that nobody mentioned that Randall called William "Dad" for the first time when he was holding his face in his hands. That being said, I can't get past the fact that William abandoned his son. He could have gotten his shit together and raised him but chose not to. Not a big William fan so I'm glad this storyline is done.
He did get his shit together, and then asked to be a part of his life, but Mandy Moore froze him out.
Ok so this is one thing I didn't get. They showed William's downward spiral into drug use. They also showed him telling Mandy Moore that he was clean and wanted to be a part of his son’s life. I get that she didn’t want him to do that. What I don’t get is what William did for the next 30+ years? He was clean for a while yet never went back to see his cousin or join back up with the band. In some ways they make it sounds like he was a drug addict for a lot longer than he really was.
In last night's episode William told his cousin that he didn't go back because he was embarrassed about what he (William) had become.
I saw that, but was still confused because it seemed like his drug years didn't last that long, based on when he told Rebecca he was clean and wanted a relationship with his son. So what did he do for those 30yrs?
Anonymous wrote:so many things I loved about this episode.
Old William hugging his young mom when he dies. OMG that blew me away
William thanking Jack for raising his son and basically seeing that it took the two of them: WIlliam and Jack to make Randall the great man he is today
when Randall held William's head th3e way his dad did for him - I thought that was a bit too melodramatic for me - William wasn't having a panic attack and it seemed a bit contrived.
You don't know that William was clean and sober for 30 years - he could have been in and out of sobriety over those years.
I didn't think the connection between Randall and all the cousins seemed real. Like the other pp said - he only knew WIlliam for a few months and then he just met the cousins - I don't know. I get why they did it, but didn't resonate with me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It was a well done episode. I'm surprised that nobody mentioned that Randall called William "Dad" for the first time when he was holding his face in his hands. That being said, I can't get past the fact that William abandoned his son. He could have gotten his shit together and raised him but chose not to. Not a big William fan so I'm glad this storyline is done.
He did get his shit together, and then asked to be a part of his life, but Mandy Moore froze him out.
Ok so this is one thing I didn't get. They showed William's downward spiral into drug use. They also showed him telling Mandy Moore that he was clean and wanted to be a part of his son’s life. I get that she didn’t want him to do that. What I don’t get is what William did for the next 30+ years? He was clean for a while yet never went back to see his cousin or join back up with the band. In some ways they make it sounds like he was a drug addict for a lot longer than he really was.
In last night's episode William told his cousin that he didn't go back because he was embarrassed about what he (William) had become.
Anonymous wrote:so many things I loved about this episode.
Old William hugging his young mom when he dies. OMG that blew me away
William thanking Jack for raising his son and basically seeing that it took the two of them: WIlliam and Jack to make Randall the great man he is today
when Randall held William's head th3e way his dad did for him - I thought that was a bit too melodramatic for me - William wasn't having a panic attack and it seemed a bit contrived.
You don't know that William was clean and sober for 30 years - he could have been in and out of sobriety over those years.
I didn't think the connection between Randall and all the cousins seemed real. Like the other pp said - he only knew WIlliam for a few months and then he just met the cousins - I don't know. I get why they did it, but didn't resonate with me
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It was a well done episode. I'm surprised that nobody mentioned that Randall called William "Dad" for the first time when he was holding his face in his hands. That being said, I can't get past the fact that William abandoned his son. He could have gotten his shit together and raised him but chose not to. Not a big William fan so I'm glad this storyline is done.
He did get his shit together, and then asked to be a part of his life, but Mandy Moore froze him out.
Ok so this is one thing I didn't get. They showed William's downward spiral into drug use. They also showed him telling Mandy Moore that he was clean and wanted to be a part of his son’s life. I get that she didn’t want him to do that. What I don’t get is what William did for the next 30+ years? He was clean for a while yet never went back to see his cousin or join back up with the band. In some ways they make it sounds like he was a drug addict for a lot longer than he really was.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It was a well done episode. I'm surprised that nobody mentioned that Randall called William "Dad" for the first time when he was holding his face in his hands. That being said, I can't get past the fact that William abandoned his son. He could have gotten his shit together and raised him but chose not to. Not a big William fan so I'm glad this storyline is done.
He did get his shit together, and then asked to be a part of his life, but Mandy Moore froze him out.
Anonymous wrote:It was a well done episode. I'm surprised that nobody mentioned that Randall called William "Dad" for the first time when he was holding his face in his hands. That being said, I can't get past the fact that William abandoned his son. He could have gotten his shit together and raised him but chose not to. Not a big William fan so I'm glad this storyline is done.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Apparently, Trump is speaking at 9 PM next week, so no new episode, despite the tease that was aired last night.
It's a week away - anything could happen between now and then.
Check your DVR guide, it is already listed as a Presidential Address.
Yeah. Maybe he'll get impeached before then. Who knows?