Anonymous wrote:Question:

If everyone ultimately gets back pay once this is resolved, then why isn’t the default a CR that only sustains the budget at its current rates (to ensure continued payrolls) without requiring anything by Congress?

That way any delays prompted by negotiations don’t actually impact workers. Instead, changes can be made once congress reaches agreement.

The solution seems so obvious, so please explain why this fix hasn’t been made.

Because people are tired of providing funding for Trump’s unconstitutional agenda. And he and his minions have shown they won’t even distribute allocated funds if they don’t want to.

Just FYI, the Washington Post and Jeff Bezos is in favor of the GOP killing Americans. (Don’t worry I don’t subscribe and neither do my neighbors which is why they moved our failing local paper to Apple News.)

By The Editorial Board
The shutdown conversation no one wants

“As the partial government shutdown enters its second week, neither party is leveling with the American people about the hard choices required to get federal spending off a fiscally ruinous trajectory.
President Joe Biden and congressional Democrats used covid-19 to justify chasing the mirage of a European-style welfare state without raising the necessary taxes to pay for it. Now, prodded by the left, party leaders have shut down the government in a bid to permanently extend what was sold in 2021 as emergency subsidies to help people struggling during the pandemic afford health insurance.”

[lies about the deficit, and a small slap of MAGA]

“
Yet Democrats have demanded that Republicans agree to extend the covid-era insurance subsidies without proposing any way to pay for it. The Congressional Budget Office estimates this will cost $350 billion over the next decade. These temporary benefits were included in the American Rescue Plan of March 2021 and extended the next year in the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act until the end of 2025.

The real problem is that the Affordable Care Act was never actually affordable. President Barack Obama’s signature achievement allowed people to buy insurance on marketplaces with subsidies based on their income. The architects of the program assumed that risk pools would be bigger than they turned out to be. As a result, policies cost more than expected.“

[more nonsense re why Dems are to blame]

https://apple.news/A9CT7nVkiSC6rRC_hLcYeTg

*Our traditional media is no longer free*

Anonymous wrote:Question:

If everyone ultimately gets back pay once this is resolved, then why isn’t the default a CR that only sustains the budget at its current rates (to ensure continued payrolls) without requiring anything by Congress?

That way any delays prompted by negotiations don’t actually impact workers. Instead, changes can be made once congress reaches agreement.

The solution seems so obvious, so please explain why this fix hasn’t been made.

Because this way Congress & the administration can continue to use federal workers as pawns by picking and choosing who gets paid when.

Question:

If everyone ultimately gets back pay once this is resolved, then why isn’t the default a CR that only sustains the budget at its current rates (to ensure continued payrolls) without requiring anything by Congress?

That way any delays prompted by negotiations don’t actually impact workers. Instead, changes can be made once congress reaches agreement.

The solution seems so obvious, so please explain why this fix hasn’t been made.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans own all three branches of the government. they have the White House, they have Congress, they have the Supreme Court. If they want Democrats to bail them out from the mess of their own making then they’re gonna have to come to the table and negotiate with Democrats. They own everything! They have the majority

This is correct! The government is shut down because the Republicans are too incompetent to be able to use their majorities to pass the legislation needed to keep it open.

Indeed. They think that silly tradition known as the filibuster is more important than having a working government. Sad!

No- they think that keeping the Epstein files secret and keeping an autocratic government are more important than having a working government. Sad.

There are people with close ties to the mega-donors of our corrupt major political parties mentioned in those files. They won't be released as long as the GOP and Dem Parties are in control of Congress.

Speak for yourself - every Dem wants the files released.

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99% of us regular people who identify as Republicans or Democrats or anything else want the files released. 5% of our corrupt GOP and Dem politicians want them released because they know what the consequences of exposing their sugar daddies might be. Most of the ones who are claiming to want them released are only doing so because they know they don't have the power in numbers to actually get them released. It's truly pathetic, indeed!

Those of you who have Republicans representing you in congress - why aren't you calling them to put pressure on them to release the Epstein files? If most "regular people" want this then you should be demanding this. Republican members of Congress are not acting because you aren't putting that pressure on them.

Did the democrats through this in too? Release the epstein files? Why not add more random reasons then just passing the agreen upon funding for the year?

Because corruption is a widespread issue in our political landscape that extends through both of our major political parties.

The democrats have overwhelming supported releasing the Epstein files.

So did the GOP politicians until they actually had the power to do so. Trump and Congress suck big time.

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans own all three branches of the government. they have the White House, they have Congress, they have the Supreme Court. If they want Democrats to bail them out from the mess of their own making then they’re gonna have to come to the table and negotiate with Democrats. They own everything! They have the majority

This is correct! The government is shut down because the Republicans are too incompetent to be able to use their majorities to pass the legislation needed to keep it open.

Indeed. They think that silly tradition known as the filibuster is more important than having a working government. Sad!

No- they think that keeping the Epstein files secret and keeping an autocratic government are more important than having a working government. Sad.

There are people with close ties to the mega-donors of our corrupt major political parties mentioned in those files. They won't be released as long as the GOP and Dem Parties are in control of Congress.

Speak for yourself - every Dem wants the files released.

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99% of us regular people who identify as Republicans or Democrats or anything else want the files released. 5% of our corrupt GOP and Dem politicians want them released because they know what the consequences of exposing their sugar daddies might be. Most of the ones who are claiming to want them released are only doing so because they know they don't have the power in numbers to actually get them released. It's truly pathetic, indeed!

Those of you who have Republicans representing you in congress - why aren't you calling them to put pressure on them to release the Epstein files? If most "regular people" want this then you should be demanding this. Republican members of Congress are not acting because you aren't putting that pressure on them.

Did the democrats through this in too? Release the epstein files? Why not add more random reasons then just passing the agreen upon funding for the year?

Because corruption is a widespread issue in our political landscape that extends through both of our major political parties.

The democrats have overwhelming supported releasing the Epstein files.

Anonymous wrote:So I guess he’s going to find a cute way to pay the military while he continues to keep the govt shutdown. Funny he’s telling the navy today not to worry about getting paid and that they’ll be well taken care of…

Or the guy who lies all the time is lying.

So I guess he’s going to find a cute way to pay the military while he continues to keep the govt shutdown. Funny he’s telling the navy today not to worry about getting paid and that they’ll be well taken care of…

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Anonymous wrote:This ends when? Wednesday?

Of which week?

Three days from now.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats lost the election, yet are trying to get their far-left agenda enacted through legislative terrorism and hostage taking. The Democrats seem to have given up on democracy and winning elections and are attempting other means to get their unpopular agenda enacted.

Truth. And outside of this crazy progressive metro area bubble, most people realize this. And appreciate Trump's willingness to not back down.

Pull the other one.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats lost the election, yet are trying to get their far-left agenda enacted through legislative terrorism and hostage taking. The Democrats seem to have given up on democracy and winning elections and are attempting other means to get their unpopular agenda enacted.

Truth. And outside of this crazy progressive metro area bubble, most people realize this. And appreciate Trump's willingness to not back down.

Go home, bot.

Or, if not a bot, go enjoy your healthcare, which is the "unpopular agenda" the democrats are trying to protect your dear leader from destroying.

It's hard to back down when you never stand up for anything worthwhile. Trump is a joke, and you are a bot, a troll, or an idiot.

Anonymous wrote:Democrats lost the election, yet are trying to get their far-left agenda enacted through legislative terrorism and hostage taking. The Democrats seem to have given up on democracy and winning elections and are attempting other means to get their unpopular agenda enacted.

Truth. And outside of this crazy progressive metro area bubble, most people realize this. And appreciate Trump's willingness to not back down.

Anonymous wrote:Democrats lost the election, yet are trying to get their far-left agenda enacted through legislative terrorism and hostage taking. The Democrats seem to have given up on democracy and winning elections and are attempting other means to get their unpopular agenda enacted.

Affordable health care for citizens is part of the far left agenda?

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry, MAGA, your party holds the majority in ALL THREE BRANCHES. If the GOP wants Democrats to bail them out from the mess of their own making, then they’re gonna have to come to the table and negotiate with Democrats. Or Rs can go it alone. It's pretty simple.

OK, so no complaining when Republicans eliminate the filibuster.

They already have at every turn. The GOP forced breaking it on Harry Reid by stonewalling judges to the point that Chief Justice Rhenquist begged Reid to break it so the judiciary could be restaffed.

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Anonymous wrote:Democrats lost the election, yet are trying to get their far-left agenda enacted through legislative terrorism and hostage taking. The Democrats seem to have given up on democracy and winning elections and are attempting other means to get their unpopular agenda enacted.

Didn't you know that's the way things work now? Merrick Garland was stonewalled (but Amy Coney Barrett rushed through), etc.

Catch up.

Obama voted to filibuster Alito, after party leaders decided against it. Kerry encourage them to do so while skiing in Europe.
With Obama voting to deny Alito a vote on the Senate floor, he had no standing to demand Republicans provide his nominees a vote.

Was Obama the majority leader or the chair of the judiciary committee back then? Pretty sure he wasn't.