Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:What will it take for people to understand that when you go to a foreign country you are subject to their laws and penalties just as foreigners who come to the US are subject to our laws and penalties?
You can argue until the cows come home about shake downs and the minimal nature of the offenses but it is irrelevant. These guys and especially the douche bag Lochte violated the law there and that is the end of it.
The arrogance of Americans in thinking that they can get away with any kind of b-s in a foreign country is just amazing. In most countries, there is no right against self-incrimination, right to counsel, Miranda warnings, etc. If you don't like the way the legal system works abroad then stay in the US but it is ludicrous to go to a foreign country and expect that US standards of jurisprudence will be in effect.
If you go to countries like Malaysia or Indonesia and are found to have drugs, you face the death penalty. In fact, there are large posters at immigration and customs warning you that possession of drugs leaves you vulnerable to the death penalty. What is more, there are foreigners, including westerners, who have been executed in these countries for being in possession of drugs.
I personally am opposed to the death punishment - and not just for dealing in drugs - but that is neither here nor there. You cannot go to a foreign country and then expect they will not implement their laws.
Uh okay. Cite the law lochte violated.
Police in Rio de Janeiro Thursday indicted U.S. Olympic swimmers Ryan Lochte and James Feigen for falsely reporting a crime, the latest twist in a bizarre case that has overshadowed the final week of the Summer Games.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/08/18/us-swimmers-pulled-off-homebound-flight-as-questions-surround-lochte-robbery-claim.html
But, of course, this is an indictment in Brazil and therefore cannot possibly be taken seriously. If Lochte pays a fine, the suggestion will be that it was extortion.
Justice can only be done in the US according to some.
He was held at gunpoint and was told to cough up money. Maybe in your godforsaken shithole of a country that is okay but in America that is called armed robbery.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:What will it take for people to understand that when you go to a foreign country you are subject to their laws and penalties just as foreigners who come to the US are subject to our laws and penalties?
You can argue until the cows come home about shake downs and the minimal nature of the offenses but it is irrelevant. These guys and especially the douche bag Lochte violated the law there and that is the end of it.
The arrogance of Americans in thinking that they can get away with any kind of b-s in a foreign country is just amazing. In most countries, there is no right against self-incrimination, right to counsel, Miranda warnings, etc. If you don't like the way the legal system works abroad then stay in the US but it is ludicrous to go to a foreign country and expect that US standards of jurisprudence will be in effect.
If you go to countries like Malaysia or Indonesia and are found to have drugs, you face the death penalty. In fact, there are large posters at immigration and customs warning you that possession of drugs leaves you vulnerable to the death penalty. What is more, there are foreigners, including westerners, who have been executed in these countries for being in possession of drugs.
I personally am opposed to the death punishment - and not just for dealing in drugs - but that is neither here nor there. You cannot go to a foreign country and then expect they will not implement their laws.
Uh okay. Cite the law lochte violated.
Police in Rio de Janeiro Thursday indicted U.S. Olympic swimmers Ryan Lochte and James Feigen for falsely reporting a crime, the latest twist in a bizarre case that has overshadowed the final week of the Summer Games.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/08/18/us-swimmers-pulled-off-homebound-flight-as-questions-surround-lochte-robbery-claim.html
But, of course, this is an indictment in Brazil and therefore cannot possibly be taken seriously. If Lochte pays a fine, the suggestion will be that it was extortion.
Justice can only be done in the US according to some.
He was held at gunpoint and was told to cough up money. Maybe in your godforsaken shithole of a country that is okay but in America that is called armed robbery.
I am sorry you were exposed to a substandard education system, but you probably know that Brazil is actually part of America?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:What will it take for people to understand that when you go to a foreign country you are subject to their laws and penalties just as foreigners who come to the US are subject to our laws and penalties?
You can argue until the cows come home about shake downs and the minimal nature of the offenses but it is irrelevant. These guys and especially the douche bag Lochte violated the law there and that is the end of it.
The arrogance of Americans in thinking that they can get away with any kind of b-s in a foreign country is just amazing. In most countries, there is no right against self-incrimination, right to counsel, Miranda warnings, etc. If you don't like the way the legal system works abroad then stay in the US but it is ludicrous to go to a foreign country and expect that US standards of jurisprudence will be in effect.
If you go to countries like Malaysia or Indonesia and are found to have drugs, you face the death penalty. In fact, there are large posters at immigration and customs warning you that possession of drugs leaves you vulnerable to the death penalty. What is more, there are foreigners, including westerners, who have been executed in these countries for being in possession of drugs.
I personally am opposed to the death punishment - and not just for dealing in drugs - but that is neither here nor there. You cannot go to a foreign country and then expect they will not implement their laws.
Uh okay. Cite the law lochte violated.
Police in Rio de Janeiro Thursday indicted U.S. Olympic swimmers Ryan Lochte and James Feigen for falsely reporting a crime, the latest twist in a bizarre case that has overshadowed the final week of the Summer Games.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/08/18/us-swimmers-pulled-off-homebound-flight-as-questions-surround-lochte-robbery-claim.html
But, of course, this is an indictment in Brazil and therefore cannot possibly be taken seriously. If Lochte pays a fine, the suggestion will be that it was extortion.
Justice can only be done in the US according to some.
He was held at gunpoint anas told to cough up money. Maybe in your godforsaken shithole of a country that is okay but in America that is called armed robbery.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:What will it take for people to understand that when you go to a foreign country you are subject to their laws and penalties just as foreigners who come to the US are subject to our laws and penalties?
You can argue until the cows come home about shake downs and the minimal nature of the offenses but it is irrelevant. These guys and especially the douche bag Lochte violated the law there and that is the end of it.
The arrogance of Americans in thinking that they can get away with any kind of b-s in a foreign country is just amazing. In most countries, there is no right against self-incrimination, right to counsel, Miranda warnings, etc. If you don't like the way the legal system works abroad then stay in the US but it is ludicrous to go to a foreign country and expect that US standards of jurisprudence will be in effect.
If you go to countries like Malaysia or Indonesia and are found to have drugs, you face the death penalty. In fact, there are large posters at immigration and customs warning you that possession of drugs leaves you vulnerable to the death penalty. What is more, there are foreigners, including westerners, who have been executed in these countries for being in possession of drugs.
I personally am opposed to the death punishment - and not just for dealing in drugs - but that is neither here nor there. You cannot go to a foreign country and then expect they will not implement their laws.
Uh okay. Cite the law lochte violated.
Police in Rio de Janeiro Thursday indicted U.S. Olympic swimmers Ryan Lochte and James Feigen for falsely reporting a crime, the latest twist in a bizarre case that has overshadowed the final week of the Summer Games.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/08/18/us-swimmers-pulled-off-homebound-flight-as-questions-surround-lochte-robbery-claim.html
But, of course, this is an indictment in Brazil and therefore cannot possibly be taken seriously. If Lochte pays a fine, the suggestion will be that it was extortion.
Justice can only be done in the US according to some.
He was held at gunpoint and was told to cough up money. Maybe in your godforsaken shithole of a country that is okay but in America that is called armed robbery.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of the people posting on this subject are a personification of American arrogance and ignorance.
Their arrogance is manifested in their insistence that Brazil's legal system cannot be fair and their ignorance in just insisting that because Brazil handles it differently than we do, it must mean that they are not following the law. They cannot understand that other countries might just do it differently.
Remember all the crap about how Rio was not ready to hold the Olympics, etc? Now wait for the Tokyo games and you will see a repeat of the same nonsense - just a different iteration.
If you really find America so distasteful, you could always move somewhere else.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:What will it take for people to understand that when you go to a foreign country you are subject to their laws and penalties just as foreigners who come to the US are subject to our laws and penalties?
You can argue until the cows come home about shake downs and the minimal nature of the offenses but it is irrelevant. These guys and especially the douche bag Lochte violated the law there and that is the end of it.
The arrogance of Americans in thinking that they can get away with any kind of b-s in a foreign country is just amazing. In most countries, there is no right against self-incrimination, right to counsel, Miranda warnings, etc. If you don't like the way the legal system works abroad then stay in the US but it is ludicrous to go to a foreign country and expect that US standards of jurisprudence will be in effect.
If you go to countries like Malaysia or Indonesia and are found to have drugs, you face the death penalty. In fact, there are large posters at immigration and customs warning you that possession of drugs leaves you vulnerable to the death penalty. What is more, there are foreigners, including westerners, who have been executed in these countries for being in possession of drugs.
I personally am opposed to the death punishment - and not just for dealing in drugs - but that is neither here nor there. You cannot go to a foreign country and then expect they will not implement their laws.
Uh okay. Cite the law lochte violated.
Police in Rio de Janeiro Thursday indicted U.S. Olympic swimmers Ryan Lochte and James Feigen for falsely reporting a crime, the latest twist in a bizarre case that has overshadowed the final week of the Summer Games.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/08/18/us-swimmers-pulled-off-homebound-flight-as-questions-surround-lochte-robbery-claim.html
But, of course, this is an indictment in Brazil and therefore cannot possibly be taken seriously. If Lochte pays a fine, the suggestion will be that it was extortion.
Justice can only be done in the US according to some.
Anonymous wrote:Some of the people posting on this subject are a personification of American arrogance and ignorance.
Their arrogance is manifested in their insistence that Brazil's legal system cannot be fair and their ignorance in just insisting that because Brazil handles it differently than we do, it must mean that they are not following the law. They cannot understand that other countries might just do it differently.
Remember all the crap about how Rio was not ready to hold the Olympics, etc? Now wait for the Tokyo games and you will see a repeat of the same nonsense - just a different iteration.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:What will it take for people to understand that when you go to a foreign country you are subject to their laws and penalties just as foreigners who come to the US are subject to our laws and penalties?
You can argue until the cows come home about shake downs and the minimal nature of the offenses but it is irrelevant. These guys and especially the douche bag Lochte violated the law there and that is the end of it.
The arrogance of Americans in thinking that they can get away with any kind of b-s in a foreign country is just amazing. In most countries, there is no right against self-incrimination, right to counsel, Miranda warnings, etc. If you don't like the way the legal system works abroad then stay in the US but it is ludicrous to go to a foreign country and expect that US standards of jurisprudence will be in effect.
If you go to countries like Malaysia or Indonesia and are found to have drugs, you face the death penalty. In fact, there are large posters at immigration and customs warning you that possession of drugs leaves you vulnerable to the death penalty. What is more, there are foreigners, including westerners, who have been executed in these countries for being in possession of drugs.
I personally am opposed to the death punishment - and not just for dealing in drugs - but that is neither here nor there. You cannot go to a foreign country and then expect they will not implement their laws.
Uh okay. Cite the law lochte violated.
Police in Rio de Janeiro Thursday indicted U.S. Olympic swimmers Ryan Lochte and James Feigen for falsely reporting a crime, the latest twist in a bizarre case that has overshadowed the final week of the Summer Games.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/08/18/us-swimmers-pulled-off-homebound-flight-as-questions-surround-lochte-robbery-claim.html
But, of course, this is an indictment in Brazil and therefore cannot possibly be taken seriously. If Lochte pays a fine, the suggestion will be that it was extortion.
Justice can only be done in the US according to some.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
What are you talking about? How is it "legal" to hold a vandal at gunpoint? Or for the government to let you "choose" between the legal system or paying a BRIBE and you can just go home?
Do you think Brazilian penal code states "the penalty for misdemeanor vandalism is immediate restitution or else getting shot, plus a $31,000 - no $47,000 - no wait, $11,000 fine"?
Idiot.
Erm--it is legal and customary in Brazil. Perhaps this was not covered in "Judge Judy's Defendant Preparation Manual".
That's the thing with this. People are trying to apply American law in another country. Visit another country, deal with their laws.
Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:What will it take for people to understand that when you go to a foreign country you are subject to their laws and penalties just as foreigners who come to the US are subject to our laws and penalties?
You can argue until the cows come home about shake downs and the minimal nature of the offenses but it is irrelevant. These guys and especially the douche bag Lochte violated the law there and that is the end of it.
The arrogance of Americans in thinking that they can get away with any kind of b-s in a foreign country is just amazing. In most countries, there is no right against self-incrimination, right to counsel, Miranda warnings, etc. If you don't like the way the legal system works abroad then stay in the US but it is ludicrous to go to a foreign country and expect that US standards of jurisprudence will be in effect.
If you go to countries like Malaysia or Indonesia and are found to have drugs, you face the death penalty. In fact, there are large posters at immigration and customs warning you that possession of drugs leaves you vulnerable to the death penalty. What is more, there are foreigners, including westerners, who have been executed in these countries for being in possession of drugs.
I personally am opposed to the death punishment - and not just for dealing in drugs - but that is neither here nor there. You cannot go to a foreign country and then expect they will not implement their laws.
Uh okay. Cite the law lochte violated.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of the people posting on this subject are a personification of American arrogance and ignorance.
Their arrogance is manifested in their insistence that Brazil's legal system cannot be fair and their ignorance in just insisting that because Brazil handles it differently than we do, it must mean that they are not following the law. They cannot understand that other countries might just do it differently.
Remember all the crap about how Rio was not ready to hold the Olympics, etc? Now wait for the Tokyo games and you will see a repeat of the same nonsense - just a different iteration.
Just like London, too, right? Oh, no, the games were fine in London. They'll be fine in Tokyo, too.
Anonymous wrote:Some of the people posting on this subject are a personification of American arrogance and ignorance.
Their arrogance is manifested in their insistence that Brazil's legal system cannot be fair and their ignorance in just insisting that because Brazil handles it differently than we do, it must mean that they are not following the law. They cannot understand that other countries might just do it differently.
Remember all the crap about how Rio was not ready to hold the Olympics, etc? Now wait for the Tokyo games and you will see a repeat of the same nonsense - just a different iteration.
.Anonymous wrote:What will it take for people to understand that when you go to a foreign country you are subject to their laws and penalties just as foreigners who come to the US are subject to our laws and penalties?
You can argue until the cows come home about shake downs and the minimal nature of the offenses but it is irrelevant. These guys and especially the douche bag Lochte violated the law there and that is the end of it.
The arrogance of Americans in thinking that they can get away with any kind of b-s in a foreign country is just amazing. In most countries, there is no right against self-incrimination, right to counsel, Miranda warnings, etc. If you don't like the way the legal system works abroad then stay in the US but it is ludicrous to go to a foreign country and expect that US standards of jurisprudence will be in effect.
If you go to countries like Malaysia or Indonesia and are found to have drugs, you face the death penalty. In fact, there are large posters at immigration and customs warning you that possession of drugs leaves you vulnerable to the death penalty. What is more, there are foreigners, including westerners, who have been executed in these countries for being in possession of drugs.
I personally am opposed to the death punishment - and not just for dealing in drugs - but that is neither here nor there. You cannot go to a foreign country and then expect they will not implement their laws.