Anonymous wrote:

And, the PP has to DROP that stale old canard about front line teachers not having been involved in developing the standards, because it is NOT TRUE.

From PolitiFact, who dug into the question: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/20...-common-core-school-standards/

"One frequent complaint at the hearings is that teachers were not involved in developing the standards.

The Common Core State Standards Initiative, the official group that organizes the standards, says that’s not the case.

We wanted more evidence, so we talked to teachers who actually participated in the process.

Becky Pittard, a Volusia County elementary math teacher, served on a team that developed math standards. She said she was puzzled by any suggestion that teachers were left out.

"I can tell you the equal sign standard is there because I insisted," she said, referring to a first-grade guideline on understanding the meaning of the symbol. "There was impact."

Many states assembled teams of teachers to review the new standards, including Florida. Deputy chancellor Mary Jane Tappen sent an email to selected teachers in November 2009 expressly for that purpose.

"You are receiving this email because you are a trusted and respected expert in your field," Tappen wrote. "Florida must provide input on this very first drafty draft of the Common Core National Standards by December 4. … I will be collecting and compiling all our work into one Florida response."

PolitiFact Florida rated the claim that teachers weren’t involved in creating the standards as False."

Then, where is the data and documentation. Where are the results of the input?

And, the PP has to DROP that stale old canard about front line teachers not having been involved in developing the standards, because it is NOT TRUE.

From PolitiFact, who dug into the question: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/20...-common-core-school-standards/

"One frequent complaint at the hearings is that teachers were not involved in developing the standards.

The Common Core State Standards Initiative, the official group that organizes the standards, says that’s not the case.

We wanted more evidence, so we talked to teachers who actually participated in the process.

Becky Pittard, a Volusia County elementary math teacher, served on a team that developed math standards. She said she was puzzled by any suggestion that teachers were left out.

"I can tell you the equal sign standard is there because I insisted," she said, referring to a first-grade guideline on understanding the meaning of the symbol. "There was impact."

Many states assembled teams of teachers to review the new standards, including Florida. Deputy chancellor Mary Jane Tappen sent an email to selected teachers in November 2009 expressly for that purpose.

"You are receiving this email because you are a trusted and respected expert in your field," Tappen wrote. "Florida must provide input on this very first drafty draft of the Common Core National Standards by December 4. … I will be collecting and compiling all our work into one Florida response."

PolitiFact Florida rated the claim that teachers weren’t involved in creating the standards as False."

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Significance and important? because teachers are the ones charged with teaching the kids to read: therefore know which standards contribute to that. Same with math, etc.

So "front-line" teachers know more about teaching reading than, for example, reading specialists? And second-grade math teachers know more about which building blocks of math are the most important for algebra than math specialists?

Not to mention that there is a lot more to education -- as well as to the Common Core standards -- than learning how to read and math etc.

Anonymous wrote:

If you do that, you're comparing curricula, not standards.

Do you understand the purpose of curricula? It is designed to teach standards or objectives.

Anonymous wrote:

Not to mention that there is a lot more to education -- as well as to the Common Core standards -- than learning how to read and math etc.

You do know that CC only covers language arts and math, don't you?

If you do that, you're comparing curricula, not standards.

Not to mention that there is a lot more to education -- as well as to the Common Core standards -- than learning how to read and math etc.

So "front-line" teachers know more about teaching reading than, for example, reading specialists? And second-grade math teachers know more about which building blocks of math are the most important for algebra than math specialists?

Anonymous wrote:Significance and important? because teachers are the ones charged with teaching the kids to read: therefore know which standards contribute to that. Same with math, etc.

Anonymous wrote:

However, before you do this, it is important to be sure that the standards are significant and important. That requires experts: front line teachers.

Anonymous wrote:Simplistic answer:
You take a group with the old standards and a group with the new. Obviously, some will be the same.

Not rocket science. However, a class in Educational Research does help.

Simplistic answer:
You take a group with the old standards and a group with the new. Obviously, some will be the same.

Not rocket science. However, a class in Educational Research does help.