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Anonymous wrote:She was never going to ram someone

I don't think she was intentionally trying to ram someone, but she could have easily hit the officer who was in front of her car.

She did hit him. He had to go to the hospital after.

She was trying to escape and didn't care if anybody got run over. Use of deadly force is legally justified if the LEO feels he/she is in an imminent threat of substantial bodily injury or death.

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Anonymous wrote:Im willing to bet that person is a citizen

She staged her wife outside the vehicle, on the sidewalk, with plans for the wife to make a TikTok video of her blocking ICE.

That is why she was there.

FAFO.

She was a parent.

What sane, normal, parent does something like that?!?!

Unfortunately, some loudmouths are out there saying nothing ICE does is justified and there is nothing for citizens to do but get in their way and stop them.

Not saying there aren’t big problems with ICE. What happened yesterday is completely senseless and seems to come from either lack of training, hiring people who are already too riled up, trigger happy, and shouldn’t be in law enforcement. The officer who fired the shots was in front of the vehicle, and should never have been there.

Actually, it comes from people like you enabling these thugs. You’re the problem.

The lack of law enforcement during the Biden administration is precisely why we ended up with Trump.
We do need law enforcement, but they clearly need to pass a higher bar or get better training.
That does not mean that US citizens are free to obstruct as they wish, just because some agents are making poor decisions.
I hope the officer who fired the shots is charged, and I also hope that both ICE and citizens will behave better while law enforcement is being carried out.

The fact that there are reckless and inexperienced armed ICE officers working on city streets like the culprit in yesterday's shooting is the very reason why people should steer clear of them. They aren't there to be a danger to the public but they are due to the bad apples in the bunch.

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Anonymous wrote:Several videos show this was actually not self defense, as she was driving away.

I saw a video, she started driving forward with an officer in front of her.

I wonder if she was not aware of the officer approaching the front because she was paying attention to the officer near the side door.
The officer approaching the front should never have been there.

This. Also are they ICE or carjackers? Who knows. Same types of masks.

Shouldn't the MAGA supporting law enforcement also be upset with the poor training given to ICE? Basics 101, don't put yourself in front of a moving vehicle. They don't care about poor training putting ICE agents at risk?

She obviously knew they were ICE agents…she was there to protest, not randomly passing by, right?

A tragedy, but there’s no need to hypothesize outside of the known facts.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She was never going to ram someone

I don't think she was intentionally trying to ram someone, but she could have easily hit the officer who was in front of her car.

She did hit him. He had to go to the hospital after.

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Anonymous wrote:Plenty of precedent for officers to use lethal force against someone driving a car at them.

And plenty of times that DHS has caught lying in the past year.

The video is clear this was not head on he shot her into the side window of the driverside.

This is murder. They have zero authorization to use lethal force.

Are we watching the same video? She took off driving fast almost hitting the ice officer who was in front of her.

You’re a liar.

DP

CNN posted an analysis of all the videos and says there is footage of the car making contact with the ICE agent before he fires. The link is posted on a prior page of this thread, and it’s on CNN’s main website.

I think the entire situation is tragic and could have been avoided on multiple levels.

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Anonymous wrote:F each and every voter who voted for Trump.

F each and every voter who voted for that Minneapolis mayor who told Ice to get the F out of his city. The country is finally enacting the law of removing people who chose to come to this country illegally. The perfectly logical consequence of taking the risk to move somewhere illegally. Yet idiots are trying to claim that this is somehow unjust.

This thread is about the unjustified use of deadly force by an ICE officer in a specific circumstance that happened yesterday. No one is claiming ICE doesn't have a justified purpose, moron.

Maybe not on DCUM, but perhaps elsewhere on the internet. Which is why regular citizens who have NO business interfering are taking it upon themselves to obstruct law enforcement.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several videos show this was actually not self defense, as she was driving away.

I saw a video, she started driving forward with an officer in front of her.

I wonder if she was not aware of the officer approaching the front because she was paying attention to the officer near the side door.
The officer approaching the front should never have been there.

This. Also are they ICE or carjackers? Who knows. Same types of masks.

Shouldn't the MAGA supporting law enforcement also be upset with the poor training given to ICE? Basics 101, don't put yourself in front of a moving vehicle. They don't care about poor training putting ICE agents at risk?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im willing to bet that person is a citizen

She staged her wife outside the vehicle, on the sidewalk, with plans for the wife to make a TikTok video of her blocking ICE.

That is why she was there.

FAFO.

She was a parent.

What sane, normal, parent does something like that?!?!

Unfortunately, some loudmouths are out there saying nothing ICE does is justified and there is nothing for citizens to do but get in their way and stop them.

Not saying there aren’t big problems with ICE. What happened yesterday is completely senseless and seems to come from either lack of training, hiring people who are already too riled up, trigger happy, and shouldn’t be in law enforcement. The officer who fired the shots was in front of the vehicle, and should never have been there.

Actually, it comes from people like you enabling these thugs. You’re the problem.

The lack of law enforcement during the Biden administration is precisely why we ended up with Trump.
We do need law enforcement, but they clearly need to pass a higher bar or get better training.
That does not mean that US citizens are free to obstruct as they wish, just because some agents are making poor decisions.
I hope the officer who fired the shots is charged, and I also hope that both ICE and citizens will behave better while law enforcement is being carried out.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Im willing to bet that person is a citizen

She staged her wife outside the vehicle, on the sidewalk, with plans for the wife to make a TikTok video of her blocking ICE.

That is why she was there.

FAFO.

She was a parent.

What sane, normal, parent does something like that?!?!

Unfortunately, some loudmouths are out there saying nothing ICE does is justified and there is nothing for citizens to do but get in their way and stop them.

Not saying there aren’t big problems with ICE. What happened yesterday is completely senseless and seems to come from either lack of training, hiring people who are already too riled up, trigger happy, and shouldn’t be in law enforcement. The officer who fired the shots was in front of the vehicle, and should never have been there.

Actually, it comes from people like you enabling these thugs. You’re the problem.

The lack of law enforcement during the Biden administration is precisely why we ended up with Trump.
We do need law enforcement, but they clearly need to pass a higher bar or get better training.
That does not mean that US citizens are free to obstruct as they wish, just because some agents are making poor decisions.
I hope the officer who fired the shots is charged, and I also hope that both ICE and citizens will behave better while law enforcement is being carried out.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of precedent for officers to use lethal force against someone driving a car at them.

And plenty of times that DHS has caught lying in the past year.

The video is clear this was not head on he shot her into the side window of the driverside.

This is murder. They have zero authorization to use lethal force.

Are we watching the same video? She took off driving fast almost hitting the ice officer who was in front of her.

You’re a liar.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of precedent for officers to use lethal force against someone driving a car at them.

ICE isn’t law enforcement. They are masked, anonymous kidnappers.

ICE are 100% federal law enforcement officers.

What’s the brave officer’s name and badge number?

How would I know?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Several videos show this was actually not self defense, as she was driving away.

I saw a video, she started driving forward with an officer in front of her.

I wonder if she was not aware of the officer approaching the front because she was paying attention to the officer near the side door.
The officer approaching the front should never have been there.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:F each and every voter who voted for Trump.

F each and every voter who voted for that Minneapolis mayor who told Ice to get the F out of his city. The country is finally enacting the law of removing people who chose to come to this country illegally. The perfectly logical consequence of taking the risk to move somewhere illegally. Yet idiots are trying to claim that this is somehow unjust.

This thread is about the unjustified use of deadly force by an ICE officer in a specific circumstance that happened yesterday. No one is claiming ICE doesn't have a justified purpose, moron.